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Couple of weeks ago I drove down the Columbia river gorge which is known for having the most reliable wind in the US. Well the wind wasn't blowing and the thousands of wind mills littering the hills were not turning. Just a fluke I thought but yesterday I drove back up the gorge and once again those things were barely moving at all. This just shows that the wind power fad is not a reliable source of energy and will never be more than a supplement for fossil fuel and hydro power that incidentally was going great guns on the Columbia wind or not. Good part is that no hawks and eagles were getting sliced and diced those days I drove through though.:lol: I took a pic of the not turning blades but I can't find my damn cord to hook the cam up to my puter. I'll keep looking, it's here somewhere.
What you saw doesn't mean that wind power is a fluke, it means their placement was ****ty maybe due to not enough research on the area possibly. There are many places where the wind is constant at times during the day. It's not a lousy technology, however, I will agree it is only a SUPPLIMENTAL source of energy.
What you saw doesn't mean that wind power is a fluke, it means their placement was ****ty maybe due to not enough research on the area possibly. There are many places where the wind is constant at times during the day. It's not a lousy technology, however, I will agree it is only a SUPPLIMENTAL source of energy.
Couple of weeks ago I drove down the Columbia river gorge which is known for having the most reliable wind in the US. Well the wind wasn't blowing and the thousands of wind mills littering the hills were not turning. Just a fluke I thought but yesterday I drove back up the gorge and once again those things were barely moving at all. This just shows that the wind power fad is not a reliable source of energy and will never be more than a supplement for fossil fuel and hydro power that incidentally was going great guns on the Columbia wind or not. Good part is that no hawks and eagles were getting sliced and diced those days I drove through though.:lol: I took a pic of the not turning blades but I can't find my damn cord to hook the cam up to my puter. I'll keep looking, it's here somewhere.
Couple of weeks ago I drove down the Columbia river gorge which is known for having the most reliable wind in the US. Well the wind wasn't blowing and the thousands of wind mills littering the hills were not turning. Just a fluke I thought but yesterday I drove back up the gorge and once again those things were barely moving at all. This just shows that the wind power fad is not a reliable source of energy and will never be more than a supplement for fossil fuel and hydro power that incidentally was going great guns on the Columbia wind or not. Good part is that no hawks and eagles were getting sliced and diced those days I drove through though.:lol: I took a pic of the not turning blades but I can't find my damn cord to hook the cam up to my puter. I'll keep looking, it's here somewhere.
So they werent moving for two days and that's suddenly proof that wind power is a hoax? You have no idea why they weren't moving either, just that they weren't?
What if you drove pass a coal planet two days in a row and noticed it wasn't operating and again you don't know why its not operating. Would you automatically assume that coal is a hoax power source as well?
What if that wind farm, like the hypothetical coal plant, was just down for maintenance? Or numerous other reasons?
I don't think I've ever seen someone present so little information to support a conculsion before. You must live in a very exciting world, where two days of observation lead you to such radical conculsions, do you think that when winter comes around it will never be warm again? Or that if the waves aren't high for a few days that the rules of gravity have somehow changes and the moon is no longer affecting tides as much? Or when it rains two days in a row that we are bound for another Biblical flood?
The reason they're not moving is because you took a picture. What you want to do is switch the mode to video so that you can document the not turning of the blades for future study.
EDIT: Crap I missed what you said ThreeGoofs, I was too excited to make fun of the wind scientist.
odd. there's a wind farm outside my town, and i very rarely see it not moving. maybe it's more windy here, but i've seen them going on days where you certainly couldn't fly a kite.
You miss my point entirely. They were not moving because the wind was not blowing in a place known to be the most steady wind in America. That stretch of the Columbia is known as the wind surfing capital of the world for a reason. Wind power even there is not reliable and has to have good old fashioned fossil fuel or dam backup power no matter how many wind mills you put up.
Have to disagree. America's heartland was run for centuries on wind power. First mechanical power and then electricity. Wasn't until the feds created the REA in 1935 that power was centralized and wind abandoned (by contract, the REA would wire out to your home/farm if you agreed to never use wind power again).
The wind power here in Oregon supplies 10% of our total electricity usage. However, you are correct, there is a problem in balance. Hydro power is the only green generation tech that doesn't have this problem (I do not count nuclear as green). The real issue isn't wind generation, but transmission and storage, primarily storage. We're still in the stone age storage wise.
You miss my point entirely. They were not moving because the wind was not blowing in a place known to be the most steady wind in America. That stretch of the Columbia is known as the wind surfing capital of the world for a reason. Wind power even there is not reliable and has to have good old fashioned fossil fuel or dam backup power no matter how many wind mills you put up.
Well, that obviously settles it. 20 minutes of observation is clearly enough to show that wind power doesn't work at all. :roll:Couple of weeks ago I drove down the Columbia river gorge which is known for having the most reliable wind in the US. Well the wind wasn't blowing....
I think that the investors of this wind farm understood that on certain days the wind may just not blow at all, and factored it into their decisions.
You act as if you're the first person to realize that sometimes the wind doesn't blow.
Well, that obviously settles it. 20 minutes of observation is clearly enough to show that wind power doesn't work at all. :roll:
No, wait, it isn't. Biglow produces an average of 150 megawatts, with a peak generation of 450MW.
Pretty much anyone involved in sustainable energy realizes that wind alone is not going to provide all the power the US needs. The idea is to utilize a variety of sustainable resources.
Oh wait, I forgot. This isn't about facts, it's about rhetoric. Never mind....
Couple of weeks ago I drove down the Columbia river gorge which is known for having the most reliable wind in the US. Well the wind wasn't blowing and the thousands of wind mills littering the hills were not turning. Just a fluke I thought but yesterday I drove back up the gorge and once again those things were barely moving at all. This just shows that the wind power fad is not a reliable source of energy and will never be more than a supplement for fossil fuel and hydro power that incidentally was going great guns on the Columbia wind or not. Good part is that no hawks and eagles were getting sliced and diced those days I drove through though.:lol: I took a pic of the not turning blades but I can't find my damn cord to hook the cam up to my puter. I'll keep looking, it's here somewhere.
You miss my point entirely. They were not moving because the wind was not blowing in a place known to be the most steady wind in America. That stretch of the Columbia is known as the wind surfing capital of the world for a reason. Wind power even there is not reliable and has to have good old fashioned fossil fuel or dam backup power no matter how many wind mills you put up.
What factored in was gov subsidies. nobody would invest in this crap without them.
Very good - you're so smart, so observant.
Without wind: wind turbines do not spin, and thus, do not produce electricity. The wind powers the turbine, thus creating the electro spark needed to generate energy.
Now, go back on a windy day, and observe how they do spin when the wind blows.
You're so observant, it's as if you went on a field trip and witnessed science in action. It's the 4th grade all over again.
What you've also learned is that the wind does not blow in any one particular part of the earth twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, and three-hundred sixty-five days a year.
Congratulations, you're now as smart as a 2nd grader: Wind doesn't blow all the time, and without wind there is nothing to power a wind turbine.
When It Comes to Government Subsidies, Dirty Energy Still Cleans Up - Businessweek
409 billion to subsidies in traditional energy sources, 60 billion to renewable
No gov subsidy's, no wind farms. THE END
And what is even smarter is thinking these things can replace fossil fuel plants. :roll: Only a 2nd grader to use your words would think that.
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