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kal-el said:You're errant ass-kissing is befittingly noted.
@_girL........ said:Being an acolyte is not a$s kissing, you moron wanna be super hero. Its a privelage to be the acolyte of Ivan the Terrible. You will see, in the future.
There is no evidence that will solve abortion. It's like swearing. Prove swearing is wrong. You can't. It's a belief.
Bustabush said:This is the reason why I don't enter into these debates. They go nowhere.
Ivan The Terrible said:Kelize:
Why?
@_girL........ said:Being an acolyte is not a$s kissing,
you moron wanna be super hero.
Its a privelage to be the acolyte of Ivan the Terrible.
You will see, in the future.
Nice of you to pick probably THE stupidest attempt at debate on the entire abortion forum. That doesn't help prove your point that ALL the debate there is pointless vanity it just proves you know how to spot a pointless fool when you see one. Yeah...there's a LOT of crap over there on both sides--but not all of it is crap.Ivan The Terrible said:Consider the following:
First off, please understand that I do have a huge moral problem with abortion. I think it is killing and I think it is morally wrong.
That being said, there are many other things in our society that are legal. Swearing, gambling, pornography, and alchohol are just a few, so why are they legal? One word: Minorities. The Bill of Rights are constitutional amendments instead of normal statutes because of minorities. The majority can already use the power of the vote to push a regular bill through Congress. That's why the Founding Fathers did not include the Bill of Rights in the original transcript of the Constitution. Federalists argued that they were not necessary because the We the People clause alone stated that the people forfeited nothing. It wasn't until minorities were brought up that Federalists promised the Bill of Rights to be added, or so says my son's history textbook.
So after the case of Maybury vs. Madison, establishing judicial review, the Supreme Court took it upon themselvs over the years to extend civil rights to minorities. Every declaration of a law to be unconstitutional helps the Bill of Rights change and grow. Some rulings against popular laws, such as Scott vs. United States, legalizing slavery nationwide until the 13th Amendment was added, may be controversial rulings, but they all have one good thing in common: They make the Bill of Rights stronger.
My conclusion: While abortion is greatly wrong in my opinion, I feel obligated to support Roe vs. Wade simply because it is an extension of minority rights, and for that reason alone. Over and out.
Nice of you to pick probably THE stupidest attempt at debate on the entire abortion forum. That doesn't help prove your point that ALL the debate there is pointless vanity it just proves you know how to spot a pointless fool when you see one. Yeah...there's a LOT of crap over there on both sides--but not all of it is crap.
Same reason I would never cheat on my husband (if I had one): it's selfish. But I certainly think that adultry should be legal.
Ivan The Terrible said:Kelzie said:
Why do you think it's selfish?
Kelzie said:Because 9 months isn't that big of a burden to me. To some women it is. Their call.
can't see how 9 months can be a burden to anyone... Well, not yet at least
Bustabush said:I can see how. It's painful man!
@_girL........ said:I can't see how 9 months can be a burden to anyone... Well, not yet at least.
Stace said:Trust me sweetie....it's no picnic being pregnant. I don't consider it a burden, because I actually WANT my child, but not all women feel that way. I'm not even a full two months into this pregnancy and it's already wreaking havoc with my body.....I'm actually kind of glad that I don't have a job right now, because I can go take a nap whenever the mood strikes me.....and it does almost every day. Running to the bathroom every hour is a pain in the ass, my boobs feel like they weigh about 20 pounds each, I'm constantly nauseous (though I haven't actually puked yet, thank goodness)......not to mention what these hormones do to a girl's emotions!!! It doesn't bother me, because to me, it signifies that my baby is growing and thriving, but some women see it as nothing but one huge hassle.......:shrug:
Korimyr the Rat said:Well, not going to weigh in on whether or not debating abortion is an act of vanity-- or whether or not either side is a vain position-- but I will tell you one thing: it warms my heart every single time that a right-to-lifer tells me that I should've been aborted because I disagree with them.
And posting to this thread is definitely an act of vanity.
Korimyr the Rat said:Heh. Being in favor of the death penalty, I've also had a few people tell me that I ought to be executed. Not nearly as many, though.
Foolish, foolish meat creatures.
Korimyr the Rat said:No big deal. I find it amusing.