The USG just recognized genocide

[Antiwar]

Did you hear the good news?

 

[mike2810]

Did you hear the good news?

No.
Do you have a link?

 

[Antiwar]

No.
Do you have a link?

Take a guess: Who was scolded?

 

[mike2810]

Take a guess: Who was scolded?

You?

 

[Nomad4Ever]

Take a guess: Who was scolded?

Myanmar?

 

[Tigerace117]

For those who don’t want to play a silly guessing game...

Five years on, U.S. recognizes Rohingya as victims of genocide

The decision comes after years of urging by human rights groups, U.S. lawmakers and others.

www.politico.com

“ Nearly five years after they were raped, beaten, murdered and forced to flee their burning villages, the United States has officially declared that the Rohingya Muslims of Myanmar were victims of genocide and crimes against humanity.

The announcement, delivered Monday by Secretary of State Antony Blinken, may help the Rohingya build an international legal case against Myanmar’s military. It comes after years of demands by the Rohingya as well as human rights activists, scholars and lawmakers that the U.S. executive branch recognize the severity of the 2017 atrocities. It further comes as Myanmar, also known as Burma, is in an ongoing crisis spurred by a military coup in February 2021.”

Blinken unveiled the determination at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, one of the entities that had long urged the State Department to make the call. He specifically blamed the military, not Myanmar’s now-ousted civilian government, for the abuses. And he laid out example after example of the atrocities the Rohingya faced in the crackdown that began in August 2017, from children being stomped upon by soldiers to some of the troops revealing that they were told to shoot Rohingya on sight.

He said the evidence was abundant that the Myanmar military intended to destroy the Rohingya “in whole or in part,” meeting one element of the definition of genocide.

“It’s critically important to reach the determination of genocide, but at the same time, we must remember that behind each of these numbers are countless individual acts of cruelty, and inhumanity,” Blinken said. “The day will come when those responsible for these appalling acts will have to answer for them.”

Human rights advocates and former U.S. officials offered back-handed praise for Blinken’s decision.

“This determination is long overdue,” said Kelley Currie, a long-time Myanmar specialist who served as ambassador-at-large for global women’s issues during the Trump administration. “It should have been made years ago, and any political or policy justification for not doing it vanished with the military’s coup.“

 

[Antiwar]

The time for when the USG is going to stop being a militaristic prick or be held accountable is getting closer, you can feel it.

 

[The AntiDonald]

The time for when the USG is going to stop being a militaristic prick or be held accountable is getting closer, you can feel it.

The world needs to dispose of Putin first. I wouldn't worry too much about the US being held accountable.

 

[Antiwar]

The world needs to dispose of Putin first. I wouldn't worry too much about the US being held accountable.

Of course you wouldn't. Most shallow nationalistic Americans don't.

 

[Tigerace117]

Of course you wouldn't. Most shallow nationalistic Americans don't.

You literally turned a thread about recognizing a genocide into complaining about America.

That’s pretty “nationalist”.

 

[Antiwar]

One comment turned a thread into complaining about America? And not being nationalist is being nationalist? Whuhhh?

 

[Tigerace117]

One comment turned a thread into complaining about America? And not being nationalist is being nationalist? Whuhhh?

From the start, rather than mentioning the genocide— you wouldn’t even say what genocide had been recognized— you were complaining about the US.

And yes, ignoring the victims of the genocide in favor of complaining about the US is rather nationalistic and Amero-centric.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

The time for when the USG is going to stop being a militaristic prick or be held accountable is getting closer, you can feel it.

Past time for you to stop pushing your “America is militaristic” bull shit.

“THE MYTH of American militarism is analytically vapid. It is also strategically damaging. For if America is simply addicted to war, the obvious prescription is to quit cold turkey. In reality, however, the use of force remains very much in the realm of prudent strategy, so braying for an end to endless wars threatens to drown out sober policy debate about how and where the American military might be employed.”

Do you think you'll be in favor of the militarism paradigm for the rest of your life?

There are plenty of militarized governments. Some are obviously radically more militarized than others. Maybe you should define "militarized government" more precisely.

debatepolitics.com

 

[Antiwar]

We can talk about the USG's role in ignoring the genocide.

Quoting:

"Officials at the State Department had a “desire to protect their relationship with Aung San Suu Kyi, and they leveraged a view among senior policy makers that we needed to keep a relationship with Burma’s political elite … to counteract China,” she said. “This was the main factor that shaped policy on Burma: great-power competition and the race to the bottom.”

(The process of designating a genocide is not well defined, as the U.S. government does not have a formal policy to determine whether a genocide has occurred, according to a report from the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.)

Why the U.S. Finally Called a Genocide in Myanmar a ‘Genocide’

America used the word human-rights activists have long argued applies to the campaign against Rohingya Muslims.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Antiwar]

Past time for you to stop pushing your “America is militaristic” bull shit.

“THE MYTH of American militarism is analytically vapid. It is also strategically damaging. For if America is simply addicted to war, the obvious prescription is to quit cold turkey. In reality, however, the use of force remains very much in the realm of prudent strategy, so braying for an end to endless wars threatens to drown out sober policy debate about how and where the American military might be employed.”

Do you think you'll be in favor of the militarism paradigm for the rest of your life?

There are plenty of militarized governments. Some are obviously radically more militarized than others. Maybe you should define "militarized government" more precisely.

debatepolitics.com

You'd like to submit that the USG is NOT militaristic?

Good grief, did you get that quote from a right-libertarian website?

 

[Antiwar]

"Did you hear the good news?" is complaining about the US? 🙃

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

The time for when the USG is going to stop being a militaristic prick or be held accountable is getting closer, you can feel it.

lets hope so Anti.

The USG has gotten away with it for far too long. Harvested a lot of souls.

 

[Craig234]

It's terrible how often Muslims have been the victims of terrible violence and oppression - in this case, in Russia, in China as examples; it's also terrible how many Americans equate "Muslim" with "terrorist" - a lie China and Russia both use - and how many actually like mass killings of innocent Muslims.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Past time for you to stop pushing your “America is militaristic” bull shit.

LMAO.

It isnt bullshit though.
More weapons, more death, more souls harvested for the FrEeDuMbZ$™ it brings.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

It's terrible how often Muslims have been the victims of terrible violence and oppression - in this case, in Russia, in China as examples; it's also terrible how many Americans equate "Muslim" with "terrorist" - a lie China and Russia both use - and how many actually like mass killings of innocent Muslims.

Dont forget the Shock & Awe terror attacks on Iraq Craig. 🧐

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

“THE MYTH of American militarism

HOOO - WEEEEEEEEE now that right there sounds like a WHOPPER if I ever heard one BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

 

[RaleBulgarian]

LMAO.

It isnt bullshit though.
More weapons, more death, more souls harvested for the FrEeDuMbZ$™ it brings.

HOOO - WEEEEEEEEE now that right there sounds like a WHOPPER if I ever heard one BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....

You and your buddy @Antiwar are free to believe whatever stupid shit you want.

 

[Antiwar]

You and your buddy @Antiwar are free to believe whatever stupid shit you want.

Over 750 Military Bases Across 80 Countries: How US Military Overshadows China In Projecting Power Overseas​

Over 750 Military Bases Across 80 Countries: How US Military Overshadows China In Projecting Power Overseas

With US focus Being shifted towards Indo-Pacific with 'aim to tame' China, US armed forces are aggressively weaponizing the Asia-Pacific

eurasiantimes.com

 

[Questerr]

We can talk about the USG's role in ignoring the genocide.

Quoting:

"Officials at the State Department had a “desire to protect their relationship with Aung San Suu Kyi, and they leveraged a view among senior policy makers that we needed to keep a relationship with Burma’s political elite … to counteract China,” she said. “This was the main factor that shaped policy on Burma: great-power competition and the race to the bottom.”

(The process of designating a genocide is not well defined, as the U.S. government does not have a formal policy to determine whether a genocide has occurred, according to a report from the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.)

Why the U.S. Finally Called a Genocide in Myanmar a ‘Genocide’

America used the word human-rights activists have long argued applies to the campaign against Rohingya Muslims.

www.theatlantic.com

How well did the "International Justice System" do at stopping the genocide?

 

[Evilroddy]

Did you hear the good news?

Antiwar:

Yup. In Myanmar; but not in the Levant, not in China, not in Turkey, not in Congo, and not in Canada. There's much work to still do.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.