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The theoretical has become real - a Judge Advocate's perspective

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When Trump took office, one of the first actions he took was to fire all the Judge Advocates General of the military services. It was a troubling act, particularly for the reasons stated. At the time, Secretary Hegseth said: "the removals were necessary because he didn't want them to pose any 'roadblocks to orders that are given by a commander in chief.'" That begged the question, "what roadblocks?" It brought to mind the Shakespeare quote, "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers". What most people don't realize is the context. It was a conversation between the rebel leader Jack Cade and his henchman, Dick the Butcher, in scene 2 of Act IV of Henry IV, Part 2. The point being, eliminating lawyers removes a major impediment to the path to more power, and a step in the direction of a totalitarian form of government, since lawyers represent "the guardians of the rule of law".

In a recent piece for The Atlantic, Tom Nichols relayed the following anecdote:

"In 1973, an Air Force nuclear-missile officer named Harold Hering asked a simple question during a training session: “How can I know that an order I receive to launch my missiles came from a sane president?” The question cost him his career. Military members are trained to execute orders, not question them. But today, both the man who can order the use of nuclear arms and the man who would likely verify such an order gave disgraceful and unnerving performances in Quantico. How many officers left the room asking themselves Major Hering’s question?"

For the majority of my military career I served in the Judge Advocate General's Corps, United States Army. For more than a decade of that time I performed Operational Law tasks - advising commanders on legal issues, and teaching the Law of Armed Conflict (LoAC) to US troops - either in Operational Law sections or as part of my regular duties. All JAGs are trained in, and most have, operational law requirements as part of their duties, but most do so on an occasional (rare) or supplemental basis. In my case it was a major part of my job for over a third of my career. Major Hering's question was a theoretical one, posed in a training scenario. I have had to address that very question, or more generally, "How do I know that my orders are lawful?", regularly, posed to me, while conducting such training. Tom Nichols taught longer than I did. (In 1997, Nichols became professor of strategy at the U.S. Naval War College, a position he retained until 2008. Wikipedia).

Major Hering's question is no longer theoretical.

Over the last month, the US Navy (presumably) has conducted four strikes on speedboats in the Caribbean, assertedly killing 27 people (we only have video and claims from the Trump regime for evidence). To conduct those operations, the regime had to overcome the "roadblocks" of US and international legal standards. (That is a nice way of saying, "the actions are illegal".) In addition, Trump has ordered military troops into various US cities, supposedly to "assist" "law enforcement" activities, although the reality has (so far) been quite different. In his last term the Secretary of the Army and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff resisted such deployments. Such resisters have been systematically purged from the military ranks.

The problem facing military commanders at every level, now, is that Major Hering's question, and the "theoretical" questions I faced conducting LoAC training, are no longer theoretical. The Supreme Court has granted to the President immunity for issuing unlawful orders. His subordinates, from the Secretary of Defense on down, possess no such immunity, and in international courts, no such immunity exists for any of them. The disturbing display at Quantico made that issue crystal clear to the hundreds of senior leaders dragooned into attending. On some level, illegal orders are already being issued and followed, and commanders are now facing a very real dilemma about how to lawfully and morally address them. In the Caribbean, some have already failed that test.
 
Under Biden and his opening of the borders - the number of overdoes deaths in America exploded. (30%)
And you are worried about 7 guys in a boat.

Lord.
 
The President and/or his subordinates likely broke not only international but also United States federal law. But this horrendous joke of a Supreme Court has decided that a current Executive isn't bound by the law, as long as he merely asserts the claim that whatever he's doing is in his capacity.
 
Under Biden and his opening of the borders - the number of overdoes deaths in America exploded. (30%)
And you are worried about 7 guys in a boat.

Lord.
Are you only able to be concerned about one thing at a time? Is this really the best diversion you could think of to divert attention from the topic of the thread? What is your opinion on the firing of the Judge Advocate Generals and the reason given for that firing(you know, the actual topic of the thread)?
 
Are you only able to be concerned about one thing at a time? Is this really the best diversion you could think of to divert attention from the topic of the thread? What is your opinion on the firing of the Judge Advocate Generals and the reason given for that firing(you know, the actual topic of the thread)?
It is not a diversion at all. It is why they were eliminated.
The cartel is responsible for more American deaths than anyone else. It isn't even close.
Going after them, militarily, is something that should have happened in the 1980s.
 
105,000 in 2023, 30% higher than when Biden took office.

One, it was part of more than a decade-long Trend that transited the first Trump term in office. Two, it also declined sharply Biden's last year in office. In other words, not the flex you think it is.
 
It is not a diversion at all. It is why they were eliminated.
The cartel is responsible for more American deaths than anyone else. It isn't even close.
Going after them, militarily, is something that should have happened in the 1980s.

Capture them and determine if they actually are what you and MAGA accuse them of being.

Try them and convict them.

It's not that hard. Unless justice isn't the real pursuit. Which it's not.
 
In a recent piece for The Atlantic, Tom Nichols relayed the following anecdote:
~snipped all this stuff for space!
The solution is simple: Someone needs to have the balls (and the money) to file suit. Of course, they also have to have standing. How about you, NWRatCon? Do YOU have what it takes? It appears Tom Nichols doesn't. All he can do is rant in The Atlantic.

While all the bleeding heart liberals and all the Trump haters try to figure who's going to do it, Trump will continue to blow the shit out of terrorist, drug running cartel people...and the US will be better off for it.
 
Under Biden and his opening of the borders - the number of overdoes deaths in America exploded. (30%)
And you are worried about 7 guys in a boat.

Lord.

No he's worried about the boiling frog principle.

Today it's 7 guys in foreign waters they claim were drug runners, tomorrow it's US citizens with the claim they are supporting "terrorist organizations", and the day after it anyone not towing the line for the regime.

WW
 
One, it was part of more than a decade-long Trend that transited the first Trump term in office. Two, it also declined sharply his last year in office. In other words, not the flex you think it is.
Nope - the
The CDC attributes the 2024 decline due to fentanyl drug samples nationwide were much weaker than the previous 2 years.
Samples taken in early 2025, showed a troubling new rise in potency - and early numbers of deaths is not looking good. Death numbers so far in 2025 is outpacing 2024. Nowhere near 2023, but trending upward. Trump said this a few months ago - and this is why this is happening now.
It is obviously not going to make an impact as these boats represent a tiny amount of illicit drugs coming in. It is a show of force of what is likely to come. You can bank on it. Trump is going to go after the cartel in Mexico and Central America militarily. It is going to happen. So get your outrage tears for the murderers ready.
 
One, it was part of more than a decade-long Trend that transited the first Trump term in office. Two, it also declined sharply Biden's last year in office. In other words, not the flex you think it is.
(Notice his ignoring the 180,000 American deaths caused by Trump by his mishandling COVID in his first term?)
 
No he's worried about the boiling frog principle.

Today it's 7 guys in foreign waters they claim were drug runners, tomorrow it's US citizens with the claim they are supporting "terrorist organizations", and the day after it anyone not towing the line for the regime.

WW
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The solution is simple: Someone needs to have the balls (and the money) to file suit. Of course, they also have to have standing. How about you, NWRatCon? Do YOU have what it takes? It appears Tom Nichols doesn't. All he can do is rant in The Atlantic.

They can charged by Venezuelan authorities for murder. They can also be charged by the ICC. That won't happen, but these are criminal, not civil, acts.

While all the bleeding heart liberals and all the Trump haters try to figure who's going to do it, Trump will continue to blow the shit out of terrorist, drug running cartel people...and the US will be better off for it.

That's what you allege, without any evidence at all. Trump will continue to incite militarized confrontation with Venezuela in an attempt to put pressure on a regime we don't like (because they refuse to bow to US hegemony) and people like you will mindlessly cheer them on.
 
Nope - the
The CDC attributes the 2024 decline due to fentanyl drug samples nationwide were much weaker than the previous 2 years.
Samples taken in early 2025, showed a troubling new rise in potency - and early numbers of deaths is not looking good. Death numbers so far in 2025 is outpacing 2024. Nowhere near 2023, but trending upward. Trump said this a few months ago - and this is why this is happening now.

So you're basically telling us that whatever MAGA is doing in 2025 is actually a backslide, and this supports your baseless claims...how again?
 
It is not a diversion at all. It is why they were eliminated.
The cartel is responsible for more American deaths than anyone else. It isn't even close.
Going after them, militarily, is something that should have happened in the 1980s.
Why do you continue to divert from and avoid the topic of this thread? Did you really think no one would notice?
 
They can charged by Venezuelan authorities for murder. They can also be charged by the ICC. That won't happen, but these are criminal, not civil, acts.

That's what you allege, without any evidence at all. Trump will continue to incite militarized confrontation with Venezuela in an attempt to put pressure on a regime we don't like (because they refuse to bow to US hegemony) and people like you will mindlessly cheer them on.
Emphasis on "mindlessly".
 
So you're basically telling us that whatever MAGA is doing in 2025 is actually a backslide, and this supports your baseless claims...how again?
I literally just told you the reasons.
But, like I say here all the time, your TDS is disabling you to hear any facts that do not blame Trump and/or MAGA.
The cartels LOVED Biden, this is not a biased statement. They pretty much had free reign in both the southern and northern borders because of his policies - a direct correlation.
Trump closed the borders. Now a good deal of the drugs are coming across Canada, and the Canadian government has been painfully slow in assisting and cooperating. Only in the last year did they start increasing serious funds and hiring additional agents.
The higher number of deaths this year is due to increased potency found in samples. The CDC warned 2024's death drop may be temporary - BEFORE Trump got in office.
 
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