* * * The Single Biggest Weakness of the Constitution:

[ElChupacabra]

The wicked servants of the devil have been aggressively twisting the Constitution into a knot in support of evil and in condemnation of good.

What have the wicked servants of Cthulhu been up to?

 

[jamesrage]

maybe, but a conflict of interest is disqualifying when your total income comes directly from the govt. Do you know what a conflict of interest is?

Again everyone votes their own interests. Sure the way the system is people are allowed to vote for free **** for themselves at the expense of others. Perhaps a way to to correct that is to require that tax increases be approved of only by the people who will be affected by the tax increases or to make it so that any tax increases that happen have to percentage wise effect all income tax brackets equally so that everyone has skin in the game.

 

[James972]

Again everyone votes their own interests. Sure the way the system is people are allowed to vote for free **** for themselves at the expense of others. Perhaps a way to to correct that is to require that tax increases be approved of only by the people who will be affected by the tax increases or to make it so that any tax increases that happen have to percentage wise effect all income tax brackets equally so that everyone has skin in the game.

So would that mean people living primarily off government handouts would not be allowed to vote?

 

[James972]

You have to admit; it's pretty funny talking about freedom from one side of your mouth then claiming to make another political ideology illegal. You would think an advocate for "freedom" would want ideas to win on their merit.

If our Founders believed good ideas would win on their own merit they would have proposed a democracy. Do you understand?

 

[James972]

They're doing more than just surviving. You keep making this statement as if corporations are barely getting by; that is not based on reality.

Sure it is there are 10,000 bankruptcies a month and even big companies like GE are leaving the DOW all the time. Ford just stopped making passenger car. I can tell you have never worked and have no idea how competitive world wide competition is.

 

[James972]

In many ways its worse because legislation favoring corporations can affect more than just money.

Corporations are like Gods providing the jobs and products that keep us alive. Marx hated them and got killed 120 million human souls so far. Any legislation that helps God is good.

 

[James972]

All liberals have done for decades is create the very society we have today.

This is true and why Bernie Sanders says our society stinks and needs major overhaul with socialism even though socialism killed 120 million human souls so far.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Corporations are like Gods providing the jobs and products that keep us alive. Marx hated them and got killed 120 million human souls so far. Any legislation that helps God is good.

They are nothing like gods. They are human beings possessing all of the flaws other human beings also share. You continually ignore the history of corporations and labor in this country, which clearly indicates that unregulated corporations can run amok and harm the general population. How many people did the tobacco industry lead to an early grave by not releasing its own studies on the harms of its product?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Sure it is there are 10,000 bankruptcies a month and even big companies like GE are leaving the DOW all the time. Ford just stopped making passenger car. I can tell you have never worked and have no idea how competitive world wide competition is.

:lamo

I've worked at a Fortune 500 company and own my own business, so your assessment skills are clearly lacking. I can tell you don't understand how many things work, but still insist on parroting talking points with little substance to back it up.

2+2=4

 

[ElChupacabra]

If our Founders believed good ideas would win on their own merit they would have proposed a democracy. Do you understand?

Clearly you don't. If they wanted a stagnant Constitution they wouldn't have allowed for the addition of amendments. Are you an originalist who thinks women and black people shouldn't be allowed to vote?

 

[James972]

Clearly you don't. If they wanted a stagnant Constitution they wouldn't have allowed for the addition of amendments. ?

our subject was if they wanted goods idea to win on merit not if they wanted stagnant Constitution. If they wanted our good ideas to win they would have given us a democracy. You lose again.

 

[James972]

:lamo

I've worked at a Fortune 500 company and own my own business, so your assessment skills are clearly lacking. I can tell you don't understand how many things work, but still insist on parroting talking points with little substance to back it up.

2+2=4

ok so you worked and totally misunderstood the experience

 

[James972]

They[corporations] are nothing like gods. They are human beings possessing all of the flaws other human beings also share. You continually ignore the history of corporations and labor in this country, which clearly indicates that unregulated corporations can run amok and harm the general population. How many people did the tobacco industry lead to an early grave by not releasing its own studies on the harms of its product?

tobacco is uber trivial matter compared to keeping 7 billion of us alive with great jobs and products. Corporations are like Gods. How many millions do you keep alive? You don't have to puppet Marx all the time!

 

[Bullseye]

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It's actually conflict of interest for the poor to be voting since they are merely voting for money (democracy as theft) in their pockets rather than for the commonweal. This points to what turns out to be the biggest weakness of the Constitution. It has no conceptual arguments. It should say, for example, you have to be 35 years old to be president and to vote to insure you have enough wisdom and experience. Similarly, the 10th Amendment should clearly say liberal central govt is illegal in America because monopolistic liberal central govt has been the source of evil in human history. Without conceptual arguments the Constitution has little meaning.Liberals can turn it into a living communist Constitution. If the concept of the 10th Amendment had been as clear as the percept of the Second Amendment America would be sitting pretty today instead of staring down the barrel of Sanders, Warren, Waters, Booker, Ocasio-Cortez communist gun.

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”

attributed to Benjamin Franklin, among others.

 

[ElChupacabra]

tobacco is uber trivial matter compared to keeping 7 billion of us alive with great jobs and products. Corporations are like Gods. How many millions do you keep alive? You don't have to puppet Marx all the time!

:lamo

This has to be up there in the absurd comment of the year award somewhere on this site. I'm sure all of the people afflicted by lung cancer before the information was released may beg to differ. If you like groups of profiteers to divinity then you have a really skewed idea of the divine.


Oh, and how many millions do you keep alive?

 

[ElChupacabra]

ok so you worked and totally misunderstood the experience

Nope. I just think you have an immensely naive view of corporations and their role and impact on society. So tell us about your corporate experience and how that led you to your conclusions about their god-like status.

 

[ElChupacabra]

our subject was if they wanted goods idea to win on merit not if they wanted stagnant Constitution. If they wanted our good ideas to win they would have given us a democracy. You lose again.

Nope, you just don't understand the topic. Don't you see that the Constitution is the very manifestation of an idea that was won by the hard sacrifices of those who made them? To allow it to be amended shows the founding fathers understood the value of other variations on the theme may arise and enhance the idea. You're really bad at this. 1-1=0

 

[cabse5]

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It's actually conflict of interest for the poor to be voting since they are merely voting for money (democracy as theft) in their pockets rather than for the commonweal. This points to what turns out to be the biggest weakness of the Constitution. It has no conceptual arguments. It should say, for example, you have to be 35 years old to be president and to vote to insure you have enough wisdom and experience. Similarly, the 10th Amendment should clearly say liberal central govt is illegal in America because monopolistic liberal central govt has been the source of evil in human history. Without conceptual arguments the Constitution has little meaning.Liberals can turn it into a living communist Constitution. If the concept of the 10th Amendment had been as clear as the percept of the Second Amendment America would be sitting pretty today instead of staring down the barrel of Sanders, Warren, Waters, Booker, Ocasio-Cortez communist gun.

SIAP. Most federal offices don't have some sort of specified chain of succession located in The Constitution in case of vacancy.

For example, I'm sure the founding fathers never dreamed that the head of the EPA would be so powerful in federal government. Let there be a chain of succession for the head of the EPA. Or Attorney General.:mrgreen:

 

[James972]

SIAP. Most federal offices don't have some sort of specified chain of succession located in The Constitution in case of vacancy.

For example, I'm sure the founding fathers never dreamed that the head of the EPA would be so powerful in federal government. Let there be a chain of succession for the head of the EPA. Or Attorney General.:mrgreen:

not sure how chain of succession would solve problem? Better to enforce separation of powers so major EPA decisions would be made Congress not executive bureaucrat

 

[James972]

Don't you see that the Constitution is the very manifestation of an idea that was won by the hard sacrifices of those who made them?

sure but that is not remotely related to our topic. You will never learn if you meander from topic to topic

 

[James972]

To allow it to be amended shows the founding fathers understood the value of other variations on the theme may arise and enhance the idea.

our subject is not amendments but rather whether they wanted our new ideas to win on merit. Obviously, if they did want that they would have merely given us a democracy.

 

[James972]

So tell us about your corporate experience and how that led you to your conclusions about their god-like status.

sure, without corporations we have no jobs and we die; thus they are Gods notwithstanding what you Marxist handlers taught you.

 

[James972]

:lamo
I'm sure all of the people afflicted by lung cancer before the information was released may beg to differ.

if they were intelligent they would not differ at all. Cigarettes and cars and red meat kill people while medicines, exercise machines, and vegetables save people. On balance corporations are Gods. They support billions of us at twice the life span we had before them. They are the greatest welfare program ever devised

 

[James972]

If you like groups of profiteers to divinity then you have a really skewed idea of the divine.

your Marxist handlers told you profit was bad? Without profit there is no investment and all die.

 

[ElChupacabra]

your Marxist handlers told you profit was bad? Without profit there is no investment and all die.

"Marxist handlers"

:lamo


Profit is not bad, but it can be without rules.