We've been thru this before - democracy is a terrible form of government.
The EC is just one of many remedies to quell the concentration of power, and to prevent government from being wielded by anyone - including the majority.
The world is awash in ignorance though, and there is a cost to that. I believe the 21st century will prove to be the bloodiest century in the history of mankind.
Certainly hundreds of millions dead, probably billions.
You really aren't going to win this debate.
Europe is run on the idea of democracy and is doing just fine.
The Electoral College is a bloody stupid idea which is why other countries don't use the system.
Yeah, well, the UK really isn't compared to the US actually.
Well, if the EC is a bad idea then surely the Senate is an even worse idea, right?
In what way is the UK doing worse than the US?
40% of the population in the UK would be considered low income in the US. The UK, France and Germany aren't particularly well off by US standards, if the comparison goes to Italy, Spain and Portugal they're even worse off which is why the democratic socialists always point to Denmark, in particular, and Scandinavia more generally.
This is based on what?
Europe is mess... you're enthusiastically marching yourselves into serfdom.You really aren't going to win this debate.
Europe is run on the idea of democracy and is doing just fine.
The Electoral College is a bloody stupid idea which is why other countries don't use the system.
but have the advantage of not having to pay for national defense. America covers those costs for you.
Europe is mess... you're enthusiastically marching yourselves into serfdom.
Your economies are stagnant, but have the advantage of not having to pay for national defense. America covers those costs for you.
That said, the U.S. is a basketcase now precisely because we've shifted further and further to the left - that is to say we've become more and more like Europe.
That is by design - the design of the globalists. They've been working toward merger for decades - literally decades.
America won't survive much longer.
Have you not read up on the WEF's Great Reset?? Freedom is not on the agenda - submissive compliance is.
People like you, who are in the majority, will meekly submit; while people like me will not go quietly into that good night.
Democracy is nothing more than a temporary, transitional form of government. If you understood history you would know that it is fundamentally unstable, short lived, and always dies a violent death.
European poverty standards tend to use relative measures like 2/3 of median income, the US tends to use things like the federal poverty line. But still many people above the poverty line are still low income and when you apply the European standard of 2/3 of median income to the US, about 25% of the US population is below that metric which of course is above the poverty rate as measured by the federal poverty line since the FPL is < 2/3 of median income in the US. In the UK about 20% of the population is below 2/3 of the UK median, but double that 40% of the UK population is below 2/3 of the US median. Basically UK, France and Germany are +/- have medians about 1 standard deviation to the left of the US so that the 50th percentile in the UK is like the 35-40% in the US.
"The Electoral College is a bloody stupid idea"
**** you. Unwarranted pretentiousness is not a good look, stick it up your ass you ****.
Parliamentary supremacy blows.
Yes, the EC is bloody stupid which is why no other nations are rushing to copy it unlike the UK parliamentary system that has been copied around the world.
But it shouldn't be copied because the circumstances that led to it are unique to the US and that is why your opinion is just that of an ugly ****ing foreign piece of shit who doesn't know history. The countermajoritarian elements of the federal government are there because the VA plan was SPECIFICALLY rejected because NJ didn't want to do it and then the CT compromise. And that still exists today, the smaller states DON'T want to be in a democracy with CA.
"The proposed Constitution, therefore, is, in strictness, neither a national nor a federal Constitution, but a composition of both. In its foundation it is federal, not national; in the sources from which the ordinary powers of the government are drawn, it is partly federal and partly national; in the operation of these powers, it is national, not federal; in the extent of them, again, it is federal, not national; and, finally, in the authoritative mode of introducing amendments, it is neither wholly federal nor wholly national." -- https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed39.asp
You're just an ignorant ****.
LolYou can continue with this batshit crazy conspiracy theory bollocks but I'm just going to end this now by sticking you on ignore.
You can reply all you like as I won't respond.
You do realise plenty of Americans think the EC is a stupid idea and way to go with the personal insults by the way, that really help your cause.
And I am going to insult you because you deserve to be personally insulted. Go **** yourself, you're an asshole. If I did similar in the UK I'd be called an Ugly American and you'd be correct to call me that.
So, you think it's OK to insult people for thinking a system of government is stupid?
Americans acting similarly will rightfully be called 'Ugly Americans' and if the shoe fits, wear it, that's what you're doing.
You do you.
I'll continue to call the EC a stupid idea as that's what it is.
Call me whenever you like, I don't care.
Of course you will, it can't occur to you that a system based on parliamentary sovereignty is best for the UK but a federal system with countermajoritarian checks might work best somewhere else.
That's beyond your narrow way of thinking because obviously YOUR WAY must be the BEST WAY, right? So if something is done different elsewhere, surely that MUST BE STUPID
You don't care but you keep responding.
I'm mostly responding because I'm finding it quite funny watching you get so upset about someone calling the EC stupid.
Because you obviously need some insight into your own unwarranted ethnocentrism.
Direct voting is simpler and better in every way.
Russia and China are allies - and of course the west provides them with stupid amounts of funding for baubles and energy.They do fine, and they are quite capable of defending themselves. They DO spend less on national defense, but why shouldn't they? Russia can't conventionally storm into Berlin, sure Russia has nukes and so too does UK and France.
If the US left NATO, NATO without the US would still VASTLY outnumber Russia in conventional terms.
The concept of burden sharing I think is likely most egregious in South Korea which is in artillery range of North Korea and obviously China not too far away and yet South Korea spends less per capita on defense than the US which seems rather .... unseemly actually....
Peter is typical of these simpleminded automatons who are wholly indoctrinated and can only interact within a very limited range of misinformation.Because you obviously need some insight into your own unwarranted ethnocentrism.