Pogo Possum
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You were created for God's pleasure, to serve Him willingly
nkgupta80 said:god indulges in pleasure? man...
nkgupta80 said:so why does he need pleasure? why does he need to be pleased when He is the representation of eternal bliss and perfection.
nkgupta80 said:why were we created.... did he feel lonely? Can a god even feel like human's feel?
Pogo Possum said:You were created for God's pleasure, to serve Him willingly
Pogo Possum said:he doesn't "need" pleasure.
He chose to create everything, for His own reasons.
He created man, for fellowship. The full extent of that, is that He wanted to created beings capable of returning His love.
nkgupta80 said:^the answer to these illogicalities is always "we cannot understand god's ways"....
Australianlibertarian said:Why would God allow us to be born in sin? Isn't that sadistic? He is actually going to allow some people to miss his word, and recieve eternal damnation?
Doesn't sound very compassionate to me...
answered above.Why didn't god just strike down the sinners? Why kill his son? Why would you do that? By letting your son be killed how did that save humanity?
Quite simply, to prove His power. And God can do what He wants, with what He wants, and how He wants to do it.And why would god create me just so that I can recieve the gospel of Jesus Christ? And that's it. Why not just make spiritual entities? Why waste your time with biological creatures that have to live in the physical world, before reaching heaven, when you could just create spiritual beings, to reside with you in heaven in the first place?
Seems rather illogical to me, considering that God created the universe, and the laws of physics, which demonstrates a being of reasoning and logic. But when it comes to mankind, the whole logic that god shows in nature suddenly goes out the window.
So we have free will, but why create beings that have free will, and can therefore question, and deny your existance? All seems very odd to me.
Quite simply, to prove His power
What 'logical order' is missing from humanity? Do you mean why did God create beings who are not 'perfect'?Australianlibertarian said:I have never bought that answer......
I am told by creationists that there is pattern and elegance in the design of things in nature. Indicating a being with intelligence and reason.
Now if God created logical order, and reasoning in nature. I.e the laws of physics, why does it suddenly disappear with humanity?
Now to say that we cannot understand God's ways is a weak theological answer. If he is an intelligent being then, there should be reasoning and logic, and therefore we should be able to understand his ways.
If humans are created in the image of God, and people have the power of reason and logic, then so must God. Therefore there has to be some explanation for the contradictory nature of God's dealings with mankind.
So if I am born in sin, I think it is my right to be able to ask my creator why I am born in sin, and get a rational answer. Don't you?
I think he means god would 'prove His power' to us. God knows his power, but man obviously does not.nkgupta80 said:why would God ever want to prove his power. I mean that does point to a feeling of insecurity. Proof is ONLY needed for uncertainty. Is god uncertain of his power?
I think he means god would 'prove His power' to us. God knows his power, but man obviously does not.
nkgupta80 said:why create us then....
Doesnt really sound like free will to me.
Pogo Possum said:those that reject Him, reject perfect love.
There is no sensible reason to reject Him.
Pogo Possum said:He chose to create everything, for His own reasons.
He created man, for fellowship.The full extent of that, is that He wanted to created beings capable of returning His love.
Pogo Possum said:And God cannot feel "lonely", because He is outside of the realm of 'time'.
Pogo Possum said:but people do it, because they are wicked, and do not want to serve God.They face the consequences for that choice-
eternal suffering in the lake of fire for rejecting the perfect love of God.
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