the lying liberal media lies again

[ballantine]

This lying liberal media is completely worthless. You might as well turn off the news, 'cause you already know you're not going to get the truth.

The lying liberal media lied again tonight. All over the airwaves. On practically every channel in existence.

"Carson compares immigrants to rabid dogs". That was the headline on the ABC Evening News. David Muir said that.

But I listened to what Carson actually said. He was making a statement about "stupid policy". He wasn't comparing anything to anything.

The lying liberal media utters a collective "gasp" every time they hear the word "immigrant". (And then the next word that comes out of their lying liberal mouths is "racist").

The lying liberal media is owned lock stock and barrel by their advertisers. They're not giving you the "news", they're telling you what their advertisers want you to hear.

They're certainly entirely devoid of credibility as a legitimate journalistic enterprise.

 

[Peter King]

This lying liberal media is completely worthless. You might as well turn off the news, 'cause you already know you're not going to get the truth.

The lying liberal media lied again tonight. All over the airwaves. On practically every channel in existence.

"Carson compares immigrants to rabid dogs". That was the headline on the ABC Evening News. David Muir said that.

But I listened to what Carson actually said. He was making a statement about "stupid policy". He wasn't comparing anything to anything.

The lying liberal media utters a collective "gasp" every time they hear the word "immigrant". (And then the next word that comes out of their lying liberal mouths is "racist").

The lying liberal media is owned lock stock and barrel by their advertisers. They're not giving you the "news", they're telling you what their advertisers want you to hear.

They're certainly entirely devoid of credibility as a legitimate journalistic enterprise.

He was actually comparing the situation with refugees with rabid dogs. He did not call refugees rabid dogs but to some degree stated that, just like you do with a rabid dog, you need to be careful about refugees because lust like rabid dogs you cannot assume they are not dangerous.

 

[dimensionallava]

you can't seriously be blaming your imaginary enemy "the liberal media" for this one?

GOP candidate Ben Carson compares screening Syrian refugees for threats to handling 'mad dogs' | Fox News

Watch: Carson Makes 'Rabid Dogs' Analogy to Describe Possible Terrorists Entering U.S. as Refugees - Breitbart

 

[Riveroaks]

He was actually comparing the situation with refugees with rabid dogs. He did not call refugees rabid dogs but to some degree stated that, just like you do with a rabid dog, you need to be careful about refugees because lust like rabid dogs you cannot assume they are not dangerous.

Yah I thought it was a good comparison. They quoted him on the tv news.

FOX is pro-GOP and all the others are simply anti.

Get used to it.

 

[HowardBThiname]

you can't seriously be blaming your imaginary enemy "the liberal media" for this one?

Carson's analogy was unfortunate but no where did he call the refugees rabid dogs. In fact, he pointed out that he "loved dogs," which, when taken in the same spirit, should tell the listener that he loves Muslims.

Absolutely the media, on average, has a liberal bias. What ABC did falls into the category of yellow journalism. The good thing, however, is that viewers can watch the clip and see that Carson didn't call the refugees rabid dogs.

I think we can all agree that terrorists, not Muslims in general, quite easily fit the description of being rabid dogs. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[Kobie]

This lying liberal media is completely worthless. You might as well turn off the news, 'cause you already know you're not going to get the truth.

The lying liberal media lied again tonight. All over the airwaves. On practically every channel in existence.

"Carson compares immigrants to rabid dogs". That was the headline on the ABC Evening News. David Muir said that.

But I listened to what Carson actually said. He was making a statement about "stupid policy". He wasn't comparing anything to anything.

The lying liberal media utters a collective "gasp" every time they hear the word "immigrant". (And then the next word that comes out of their lying liberal mouths is "racist").

The lying liberal media is owned lock stock and barrel by their advertisers. They're not giving you the "news", they're telling you what their advertisers want you to hear.

They're certainly entirely devoid of credibility as a legitimate journalistic enterprise.

Do you have a link, or am I just supposed to take your word for it?

 

[CanadaJohn]

These comments from Carson are no more acceptable than Kerry's comments about the terrorist attacks in Paris being legitimate and rational. Both should just acknowledge they're in positions where they have an obligation to speak diplomatically and clearly on such issues and they'll choose their words more wisely next time and then move on.

 

[dimensionallava]

Carson's analogy was unfortunate but no where did he call the refugees rabid dogs.

"By the same token, we have to have in place screening mechanisms that allow us to determine who the mad dogs are, quite frankly. Who are the people who want to come in here and hurt us and want to destroy us?"

he literally said that......... he couldn't have been more clear if he just started screaming "theyre all dogs" at the top of his lungs. And considering carsons bigoted beliefs about muslims and non christians its not that big of a leap

 

[Peter King]

Carson's analogy was unfortunate but no where did he call the refugees rabid dogs. In fact, he pointed out that he "loved dogs," which, when taken in the same spirit, should tell the listener that he loves Muslims.

Absolutely the media, on average, has a liberal bias. What ABC did falls into the category of yellow journalism. The good thing, however, is that viewers can watch the clip and see that Carson didn't call the refugees rabid dogs.

I think we can all agree that terrorists, not Muslims in general, quite easily fit the description of being rabid dogs. Wouldn't you agree?

Maybe it is much more likely that the media has a moderate bias, but to conservatives even moderate bias is the exact same thing as liberal bias because from their conservative point of view, everything not as conservative or close to as conservative as they are is liberal/liberal bias.

Sure, there are some really liberal media (Daily Kos, etc.) but most media outlets are not rabidly conservative or liberal, they are just moderate. But as said, when you are a true blue Fox new enthusiast, even moderate media sources must read like liberal/commie/socialist propaganda against the conservatives.

 

[Heinrich]

American mainstream media repeats what their government says. There is no journalism there and the people are uninformed.

 

[Dragonfly]

This lying liberal media is completely worthless. You might as well turn off the news, 'cause you already know you're not going to get the truth.

They're certainly entirely devoid of credibility as a legitimate journalistic enterprise.

Do you post similar rants when the lying conservative media does exactly the same kinds of things? On a regular basis?

 

[joG]

This lying liberal media is completely worthless. You might as well turn off the news, 'cause you already know you're not going to get the truth.

The lying liberal media lied again tonight. All over the airwaves. On practically every channel in existence.

"Carson compares immigrants to rabid dogs". That was the headline on the ABC Evening News. David Muir said that.

But I listened to what Carson actually said. He was making a statement about "stupid policy". He wasn't comparing anything to anything.

The lying liberal media utters a collective "gasp" every time they hear the word "immigrant". (And then the next word that comes out of their lying liberal mouths is "racist").

The lying liberal media is owned lock stock and barrel by their advertisers. They're not giving you the "news", they're telling you what their advertisers want you to hear.

They're certainly entirely devoid of credibility as a legitimate journalistic enterprise.

I would watch a video.

 

[HowardBThiname]

"By the same token, we have to have in place screening mechanisms that allow us to determine who the mad dogs are, quite frankly. Who are the people who want to come in here and hurt us and want to destroy us?"

he literally said that......... he couldn't have been more clear if he just started screaming "theyre all dogs" at the top of his lungs. And considering carsons bigoted beliefs about muslims and non christians its not that big of a leap

Look again at your post. He didn't specify refugees - his comparison for them was that we all love dogs - rather, he said the ones who "want to come in here and hurt us and want to destroy us."

That would be terrorists. Right.

You evaded my question before so I'll ask again. You do agree that terrorists are akin to rabid dogs, don't you?

 

[joG]

Do you post similar rants when the lying conservative media does exactly the same kinds of things? On a regular basis?

I looked. Conservatives don't lie.

 

[HowardBThiname]

Maybe it is much more likely that the media has a moderate bias, but to conservatives even moderate bias is the exact same thing as liberal bias because from their conservative point of view, everything not as conservative or close to as conservative as they are is liberal/liberal bias.

Sure, there are some really liberal media (Daily Kos, etc.) but most media outlets are not rabidly conservative or liberal, they are just moderate. But as said, when you are a true blue Fox new enthusiast, even moderate media sources must read like liberal/commie/socialist propaganda against the conservatives.

First, I think "moderate bias" is a bit of an oxymoron, because bias - in any direction - is a departure from a moderate position.

I do agree that KOS is more extreme in its bias, kind of the flip-side of the Rush Limbaugh coin.

It's the more subtle, MSM, biases that taint journalistic integrity. Everyone expects Limbaugh and KOS to spew crap on a regular basis, but little things, like what ABC did here, are more insidious because viewers aren't expecting bias. In this specific incident, however, the viewer has the advantage of watching the actual clip, which belies the story line, so ABC probably didn't convince anyone who wasn't already convinced that Carson is racist or bigoted.

 

[HowardBThiname]

I looked. Conservatives don't lie.

Oh, sure they do. And, when they do, they should also be taken to task.

No one gets a bye in this game.

 

[Peter King]

Do you post similar rants when the lying conservative media does exactly the same kinds of things? On a regular basis?

No, because we all know that foxnews and other conservative media sources nneeeeevvvvveeeeeerrrrr eeeeeevvvveeeerrrrr say things that are not exactly (or should I say even remotely) true.

You know, like for example Kimberly Guilfoyle who on Fox said (about the president):

"He's more fired up about demonizing Republicans than he is about destroying ISIS,"

And as long as it is only criticism of the Republicans and not drone strikes or bombs, then I am not sure Kimberly is really on target with her comments. Because Obama is largely hindered by his office and cannot speak up against republicans like they do against him (I cannot remember Obama shouting "you lie").

 

[Peter King]

First, I think "moderate bias" is a bit of an oxymoron, because bias - in any direction - is a departure from a moderate position.

I do agree that KOS is more extreme in its bias, kind of the flip-side of the Rush Limbaugh coin.

It's the more subtle, MSM, biases that taint journalistic integrity. Everyone expects Limbaugh and KOS to spew crap on a regular basis, but little things, like what ABC did here, are more insidious because viewers aren't expecting bias. In this specific incident, however, the viewer has the advantage of watching the actual clip, which belies the story line, so ABC probably didn't convince anyone who wasn't already convinced that Carson is racist or bigoted.

No, I am saying that from a tea-party supporter, just about anything is liberal bias. From someone from a moderate position Daily Kos would be liberal bias and Foxnews conservative bias. But from the middle of the road tea party supporter, as said, even a moderate news source is seen as liberally biased.

Maybe it is not the MSM who is afflicted with bias, it is the people on the right and the left of that MSM who view it as biased.

 

[HowardBThiname]

No, I am saying that from a tea-party supporter, just about anything is liberal bias. From someone from a moderate position Daily Kos would be liberal bias and Foxnews conservative bias. But from the middle of the road tea party supporter, as said, even a moderate news source is seen as liberally biased.

Maybe it is not the MSM who is afflicted with bias, it is the people on the right and the left of that MSM who view it as biased.

An interesting assessment to be sure.

While I agree that the further to one extreme or the other a person gets, the more they could view a moderate statement as bias, I think most moderates would be hard pressed to see this specific ABC story line as unbiased.

That said, all media outlets are nothing more than a compilation of reporters and journalists that each come with their own degree of bias - or lack thereof - so perhaps it's just a pendulum swinging first in one direction, and then in the other.

 

[Dragonfly]

Oh, sure they do. And, when they do, they should also be taken to task.

No one gets a bye in this game.

I read joG's post as sarcasm.

 

[joG]

I read joG's post as sarcasm.

You must be very wise behind the goggles.

 

[tres borrachos]

No, because we all know that foxnews and other conservative media sources nneeeeevvvvveeeeeerrrrr eeeeeevvvveeeerrrrr say things that are not exactly (or should I say even remotely) true.

You know, like for example Kimberly Guilfoyle who on Fox said (about the president):

"He's more fired up about demonizing Republicans than he is about destroying ISIS,"

And as long as it is only criticism of the Republicans and not drone strikes or bombs, then I am not sure Kimberly is really on target with her comments. Because Obama is largely hindered by his office and cannot speak up against republicans like they do against him (I cannot remember Obama shouting "you lie").

What's wrong with what Kimberly said? It's her opinion, and Obama has appeared very weak on terrorists, using stupid terminology like "setback" to describe the Paris attacks. She also isn't the only one who finds his constant complaining about the Republicans to be both tiresome and annoying. He does seem more focused on using harsh words against his political opponents in America than he does the world's enemy.

 

[ttwtt78640]

One problem with the rabies/terroism analogy is that there is no scientific test for terrorism "cooties". Another problem is that the rabies test usually requires examining a dead suspected carrier's brain, hardly a viable option for refugees. It is highly unlikely that merely observing any particular refugee for 10 days will result in an accurate determination of their terrorist status.

While we may be able to determine that a refugee was exposed to (made contact with?) a known terrorist that alone does not mean that they are also "infected". The best "vetting" of terrorists that we could hope for is comparing refugees with a list of known terrorists but the problem with that method is obvious - we have very little idea of the identity of the vast majority of ISIS members, much less their supporters.

CDC - Diagnosis: In Animals and Humans - Rabies

Unvaccinated pets that have a run-in with a potentially rabid animal are either euthanized or placed under strict, isolated observance for 10 days. If the animal makes it through this probationary period without incident, it's given a clean bill of health and allowed to return to life as normal.

How Do You Test an Animal for Rabies? - HowStuffWorks

 

[jmotivator]

He was actually comparing the situation with refugees with rabid dogs. He did not call refugees rabid dogs but to some degree stated that, just like you do with a rabid dog, you need to be careful about refugees because lust like rabid dogs you cannot assume they are not dangerous.

False, he said he loved dogs but that you need to be careful with the rabid dogs, meaning Islamic militants.

 

[eohrnberger]

you can't seriously be blaming your imaginary enemy "the liberal media" for this one?

GOP candidate Ben Carson compares screening Syrian refugees for threats to handling 'mad dogs' | Fox News

Watch: Carson Makes 'Rabid Dogs' Analogy to Describe Possible Terrorists Entering U.S. as Refugees - Breitbart

The two news links you provided exemplifies the problem with the liberal media, which falsely claimed that Carson compares refugees to rabid dogs - this is 100% false.

Just based on the titles of the two links you provided, they make the far more accurate claim of Caron's analogy, as well as the screening of refugees.

How do you square that to ABC News' "Carson compares immigrants to rabid dogs"?