"The job of the US military is to...spread democracy to everybody around the world at the point of a gun" - Trump

[The AntiDonald]

The tweet changed Trump's words. He said the military's job is not to spread democracy at the point of a gun.

Doesn't in any way change my opinion of the way Trump thinks.

 

[Airyaman]

The tweet you posted replaced or with but and it wildly alters the message.

I hear "but". I did not post this based on his words, but on what I personally heard.

Several others heard "but". Obviously the poster also heard "but".

 

[anatta]

And it's clear as a bell in my surround sound headphones. I think his annunciation sucks, and it's easy to let the power of suggestion sway what we hear, but I've now listened to it 10 times (I seriously am tired of his voice), and I'm 90% sure he says "or." Please spare my ears and don't make me keep listening to it to be sure.

nor/ but /or..lol

 

[Lursa]

I hear the word "or", clear as a bell.

The OP video, it's "but" as clear as a bell. Holy shit...the biased delusions are not on my part.

 

[BirdinHand]

interventionism is getting involved in foreign wars.

No, it isn’t. War is not necessary for interventionism.

Interventionism is a foreign policy approach where a state actively engages in or interferes with the internal affairs of another state to affect its political, economic, or social development.

Primarily civil wars like Libya/Syria and Afghan. Iraq was regime change coupled with interventionsim ( as was Afghan)

None of those factors are involved with our military going after cartels in Mexico.

 

[Deuce]

I hear "but". Several others heard "but". Obviously the poster also heard "but".

I think you're biased by the text in the tweet. He absolutely says "or."

 

[anatta]

No, it isn’t. War is not necessary for interventionism.

Interventionism is a foreign policy approach where a state actively engages in or interferes with the internal affairs of another state to affect its political, economic, or social development.

Interventionism implies the use of military force or coercion. as in "The US policy of interventionism has resulted in blow back over regime change" (Libya /Syria /Afghan / Iraq )

 

[Airyaman]

I think you're biased by the text in the tweet. He absolutely says "or."

Maybe. Or maybe the poster heard "but".

 

[Nickyjo]

Wut?!? Nvm this bullshit about drag shows or foreign cultures, but seriously?



Maybe this is brutally honest. But is this what our president is supposed to be saying?

Dementia Don is still demented.

LOL!!

It's no surprise that the Trump haters will totally skew Trump's words into something he didn't say. This has happened over and over for the last 10 years.

True, as I have posted before, no skewing required. Simply quote Trump’s hateful, bigoted, sexist statements verbatim.

 

[Xilnik]

I think you're biased by the text in the tweet. He absolutely says "or."

That's my conclusion as well, and the audio is distorted enough to understand why it might be misheard. I couldn't initially discern between the two the first few times I listened until I turned the volume up a little.

 

[BirdinHand]

Interventionism implies the use of military force or coercion. as in "The US policy of interventionism has resulted in blow back over regime change" (Libya /Syria /Afghan / Iraq )

The CIC saying he will send the military to fight cartels in Mexico is using military force and coercion

 

[Lursa]

I think you're biased by the text in the tweet. He absolutely says "or."

I go back and listen each time someone with some credibility, such as yourself or XLink, says it's "or" and every time it's "but". Clear as a bell. ANd the recording is not distorted at all.

 

[BirdinHand]

I go back and listen each time someone with some credibility, such as yourself or XLink, says it's "or" and every time it's "but". Clear as a bell. ANd the recording is not distorted at all.

The rest of the speech is even more painful

 

[Xilnik]

I go back and listen each time someone with some credibility, such as yourself or XLink, says it's "or" and every time it's "but". Clear as a bell.

There are a lot of song lyrics I swear artists are saying one thing, but the written lyrics and other people who listen to it tell me it's something else. I think this is one of those situations. As I said, I'm not even 100% sure it's "or," but that is what I feel confident I hear.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Poor West Point, what did they do to deserve this?

How long is the nursing home going to allow him to break curfew?

 

[Anagram]

This thread is a bad attempt to attack Trump.

Whether or not he actually says “or” or “but” is not particularly relevant. I hear “but” in the audio, and I know other people hear “or”, but I don’t think it matters.

The context of the speech makes it clear that he means “or” there. There is no other way that the sentence structure can be read. And for all of his faults, using the military to enforce democracy is not something Trump can be reasonably accused of. If anything it goes the other way like reducing military aid to Ukraine.

 

[Lycanthrope]

He is wrong. The job of the military is to be an instrument of foreign policy when dilomacy fails to achieve the desired results.

In other words, the US military's job is to break things and kill people when directed to do so by proper authority.

That you, von Clausewitz?

 

[Stealers Wheel]

That you, von Clausewitz?

Von Clausewitz: War is a continuation of politics by other means.

 

[MamboDervish]

TDS. One has to take it in the context it was intended.

Feel free. In fact, take all his rudderless rambling speeches - every one of them - and tell us what context they were actually supposed to be in.
Because Trump himself has no clue.

Trump meant that statement for a scenario where we actually go to war. He has actually sold himself as the president that does not get us into endless wars, and criticized so-called nation building such as we did in Iraq.

We really appreciate your most insightful interpretations. When he wanders from windmills to water pressure, does he mean when we're at war?

Do you think it vital for our military readiness for our West Point Cadets to know how tall Gary Player is, how far he hits the ball, how many votes Trump got last November, or that Levitt had a trophy wife and divorced her, or how many investigations Trump has when compared to Al Capone?

Please - share the context. Because to all of us know-nothings, Trump is just totally unhinged at the podium. He doesn't know that the **** he's talking about - nor even who he's talking to, it seems.

 

[MamboDervish]

However rambling and incoherent Trump's speeches are, his cult of idiot acolytes don't have to worry about them being parsed and fed back to him, because the White House no longer provides transcripts of anything he says.

They're too embarrassed by his shit stained screeds, and too exhausted trying to spin them on a daily basis. They know Trump has lost it, even if his moronic minions refuse to admit it.

 

[Questerr]

More TDS.

Get a new trick, One Trick Pony.

 

[Tigerace117]

Wut?!? Nvm this bullshit about drag shows or foreign cultures, but seriously?



Maybe this is brutally honest. But is this what our president is supposed to be saying?

Dementia Don is still demented.

Yeah, Trump being too stupid to understand “subtlety” doesn’t change the fact his claim is objectively correct.

 

[noonereal]

Any one informed recognizes the altered quote as being the motto of neocons. Trump is many things - neocon isn't one of them

Trump has not figured how to be a neocon yet, if he does, he will be one.

 

[j brown's body]

Trump's an imperialist. He wants to use the military to expand our power against countries that have stuff we want.

We thought those days were over. But Trump wants to bring them back.

 

[weaver2]

the video is altered i suppose.. I just gave you the quote, there was no "but" in that sentence.. for ****s sake have a shred of honesty when it's pointed out

The job of the US armed forces is not to host drag shows, to transform foreign cultures, or to spread democracy to everybody around the world at the point of the gun. The military’s job is to dominate any foe and annihilate any threat to America anywhere, anytime, and anyplace,” he added.

“A big part of that job is to be respected again, and you are, as of right now, respected more than any army anywhere in the world.”

“My preference always will be to make peace and seek partnership, even with countries with which our differences may be profound,” he went on.

Yes, Trump did say, "The job of the US armed forces is not to host drag shows, to transform foreign cultures, but to spread democracy to everybody around the world at the point of the gun.
However, it had to be a misreading of the teleprompter because the next sentence makes it clear what the job of the military is. The last thing Democrats should do is lie about Trump or his speeches, pronouncements, EOs and actions.