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The job market is a joke. Job interviews are like a root canal.

reinaert said:
Shitty. Lots of jobs in New England. My friend is head of the Carpenters Local and they can't fill the positions for their union-friendly companies that they need. Boston guys swing a hammer for $98 and hour, and laborers start at about $45.
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The shipyard will hire and train in electrical and such, but if I remember/have heard correctly it's not always transferrable skill-wise outside of the specific work they do
 
If you're under 40, it would only take a few months to get you into a position on a trade. Some plumbing places pay as you learn. Plumbers make a good amount after a year or so. Around $100,000.
 
instagramsci said:
The shipyard will hire and train in electrical and such, but if I remember/have heard correctly it's not always transferrable skill-wise outside of the specific work they do
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Electrical is a good skill, I bet it would transfer.
 
Integrityrespec said:
I'd guess it's because folks have been telling us you can do everything from home. I've done 12-20 interviews, only 2 were by phone and both were 800-1,000 miles away. I was offered an in person interview on one to seal the deal but I declined because I didn't like the job particulars after the phone interview. I've conducted or participated as a panelist on a few dozen interviews. It's amazing how unprepared and how unprofessionally dressed about half of the applicants were.
I was taught you can't overdress for an interview. If you show up (male) in a coat and tie and you think you are overdressed, take off the tie. I did that once but it was because when I showed up for the interview and put on my tie in the car in the parking lot, my shirt, fressh out of the cleaners, top button broke off. I went with suit, dress shirt and not tie. Got that job.. Only a couple of times I didn't wear a tie or suit and tie and was told on the front end to dress casually. I wore a dress shirt with a collar and dress slacks. I always practiced before the interview, went through a list of possible questions and made a list of things I wanted to ask. I even asked for a guided tour of the facilities a few times when it was offered initially. Did I get all thos jobs, nope. I did make it back to a final interview numerous times and since I've held 12 different jobs in my life I'd say that my strategy worked. I also turned down about a half dozen jobs after the interview as well as sabotaging my interview with requests that I knew they would not go for because I knew I didn't want the job after I got into the interview and felt the folks were not people I wanted to work with.

Many interviewers don't seem to have much of a process.
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I think you need to dress classically stylish and appropriate to the job. For example, if you are applying for a job in tech, a well-fitting V-neck sweater, oxford shirt, casual kakis or even jeans as long as they are well fitting and stylish, and dress casual shoes or something hip like Veja sneakers are very appropriate. If you wear glasses, get them from Warby Parker. A fresh haircut and shave are good as well. If it is for a job at a formal law firm or in traditional finance where you were a suit to work (not a lot of these type of jobs anymore), then ask yourself, "What would Gregory Peck wear to this interview?"

Speaking as someone in tech and in my late 40s, as we age, one of the most important things a man can do regarding how well you interview is to keep yourself strong and fit. Not only does physical fitness correlate to a strong and nimble mind, but it also makes you more attractive. You always want to convey to the hiring manager and those interviewing you, "This is a person in the prime of their life."
 
instagramsci said:
About 50 wpm, fat lot of good its done for me though :ROFLMAO:
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That's not a good typing speed for clerical work. You're going to need to be at a minimum of 60wpm - and even then, that's the low end of acceptable for clerical work.
 
instagramsci said:
About 50 wpm, fat lot of good its done for me though :ROFLMAO:
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That's good!! You need over 45wpm for data entry. Have you looked on flex jobs site for remote work?
 
Insta, I was a regional hiring mgr for a national chain. If you have specific questions about how to interview, feel free to pm me. I don't do it anymore, because burnout, and wanting a ****-off job of no import whatsoever, and some stuff has changed since my days, but I might still be of use.

But very generally, if you do get one of those open ended questions, and especially if it's before a panel of interviewers, the specific information you provide is generally not as significant as your agility and composure. If it helps, think of it as a puzzle where their questions are negative space that shapes the figure in the foreground of your answer. Broadly, they are telling you what they want you to say in the framing of the question, because these bullshit questions actually serve a real function, which is to determine if you can work with others, fill gaps in work, and follow direction.
 
BirdinHand said:
Data entry and transcription type of positions look at folks in the 60-90wpm range.
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Oh wow!! They advertise at 45, but 60 - 90 is doable with a lot of practice.
 
Ginger Ale said:
Oh wow!! They advertise at 45, but 60 - 90 is doable with a lot of practice.
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Yeah, that’s the minimum qualifications but you’re “competing” against folks who have much higher skills.

Will they take 45 if they can’t find anything better? Yeah.

But they’re going to find better. 🤷‍♀️
 
Job interviews can be tough.

I remember one interview I had. Towards the end of the interview, the hiring manager said "OK, we've discussed your skills and strengths. Now tell me, what do you think is your biggest weakness?"

I thought about it and replied, "My biggest weakness is my honesty. I'm just too honest."

Shocked, the manager said "I don't think honesty is a weakness!"

Well, I replied, "I don't give a shit what you think."

Yup, just too honest.
 
instagramsci said:
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Your odds of finding a remote position are low.

I’m sorry to tell you, but they are.

You’re competing against people that have much higher skill sets.


Until you have more experience and skills, you’re going to have to take an in person, in office role - and leverage that to gain skills and experience so that you can be competitive for the remote positions.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
Job interviews can be tough.

I remember one interview I had. Towards the end of the interview, the hiring manager said "OK, we've discussed your skills and strengths. Now tell me, what do you think is your biggest weakness?"

I thought about it and replied, "My biggest weakness is my honesty. I'm just too honest."

Shocked, the manager said "I don't think honesty is a weakness!"

Well, I replied, "I don't give a shit what you think."

Yup, just too honest.
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My wife asks a version of 'Tell me how you'd describe the color orange to a person who has always been blind."
 
instagramsci said:
Networking doesn't help in the short term
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True, it doesn't, but you have to do it to give yourself an advantage longer-term. I'm not the best at it, either, but that's how you beat the system, so to speak.
 
BirdinHand said:
Yeah, that’s the minimum qualifications but you’re “competing” against folks who have much higher skills.

Will they take 45 if they can’t find anything better? Yeah.

But they’re going to find better. 🤷‍♀️
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reinaert said:
60.
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I just hit 57 on a unofficial try. I'm almost certain I could break much higher with a little practice.
 
instagramsci said:
What the hell is going on?

I've applied to over 500 jobs in the past two years. I've gotten virtual/phone interviews for about 20. I have interviewed in person for less than 10. I've received offers for 2.

Retail, food service, IT, clerical.

I've had my resume punched up multiple times.

In the interviews, I am polite, friendly, and focused. Even though I do have ADHD, which makes it difficult to answer open ended questions (which seem to be recruiters/managersHR/etc's favorite form of question)

This shit is miserable
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That's what I've been hearing from a lot of people. It's been an exercise in way to many interviews, then being ghosted to then seeing the job available shortly thereafter. I've heard a lot about "ghost positions" that are posted online but the employers have no intention of filling them. I feel for many of the people I know who have been recently laid off, and when I recommend people for positions at the company I work for I do the leg work to ensure it's an actual open position looking to be filled.
 
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