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The height of hypocrisy......

vergiss said:
The "created in his own image" thing has a million different interpretations, you realise. I don't even see the logic in assuming that it means God has a penis. I mean, Adam's a human, and God created him in his image, so is God a human?

Yes, I realise Jesus was Jewish. Your point?
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Why not listen to Jesus then? You could learn alot from his teachings. And Moses refers to God as a "HE" at least a hundred times. Moses is highly credible.
 
Donkey1499 said:
Why not listen to Jesus then? You could learn alot from his teachings. And Moses refers to God as a "HE" at least a hundred times. Moses is highly credible.
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What, you think I go around worshipping every other Jew I see?

Wow. Moses used a word. Thus, usage of that word proves God had a dick. Erm... I don't think so. What else could he have used to refer to God? It? "It" sounds a tad impersonal for the Creator, don't you think?

Logic, boy. It's a useful thing.
 
Navy Pride said:
There are actually jews that accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior
http://www.jfjonline.org/
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How can these people claim to be Jewish but believe in Jesus? To the Jewish people Jesus and Muhammad were false prophets and they were prophesized, by Daniel, to come to earth lead some of the Jewish people into a false hope and make them worship an idol next to God.

I wonder if you have any "Christians for Muhammad" links. That would be roughly the same thing.
 
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vergiss said:
What, you think I go around worshipping every other Jew I see?

Wow. Moses used a word. Thus, usage of that word proves God had a dick. Erm... I don't think so. What else could he have used to refer to God? It? "It" sounds a tad impersonal for the Creator, don't you think?

Logic, boy. It's a useful thing.
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Apparently you don't use any logic. You don't even trust the word of one of the greatest Jews in history. How weak your faith is.

But if God isn't a man, what is He then? A sponge?
 
Gibberish said:
How can these people claim to be Jewish but believe in Jesus? To the Jewish people Jesus and Muhammad were false prophets and they were prophesized, by Daniel, to come to earth lead some of the Jewish people into a false hope and make them worship an idol next to God.

I wonder if you have any "Christians for Muhammad" links. That would be roughly the same thing.
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Did you bother to check the link? There are many links that talk about a sect of Jewish people who believe in Jesus........
 
Navy Pride said:
Did you bother to check the link? There are many links that talk about a sect of Jewish people who believe in Jesus........
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I never said these people didnt exist. I'll rewrite my post.

How can these people claim to be Jewish when they believe in something that goes against Judisam. This would be like Christians believing Muhammad was the savior but still claiming to be Christian.
 
Gibberish said:
I never said these people didnt exist. I'll rewrite my post.

How can these people claim to be Jewish when they believe in something that goes against Judisam. This would be like Christians believing Muhammad was the savior but still claiming to be Christian.
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You will have to ask them that.........The fact is they exist.....I heard Michael Medved who is a jewish conservative radio personality interview one of them a while back..............
 
Navy Pride said:
Did you bother to check the link? There are many links that talk about a sect of Jewish people who believe in Jesus........
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That sect does exist, but it doesn't make any sense. Cuz if you're a Jew that believes in Christ, then you're a Christian. Acts says something about Jews who believe in Jesus are called Christians for the first time. But, whatever they wanna call themselves doesn't matter. It's their FAITH that matters.
 
Donkey1499 said:
That sect does exist, but it doesn't make any sense. Cuz if you're a Jew that believes in Christ, then you're a Christian. Acts says something about Jews who believe in Jesus are called Christians for the first time. But, whatever they wanna call themselves doesn't matter. It's their FAITH that matters.
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I heard Michael Medved who is a jewish conservative radio personality interview one of them a while back..............
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Did you google on it......There was a whole bunch of links to them........

Just stype in Jews for Jesus
 
Gibberish said:
How can these people claim to be Jewish but believe in Jesus? To the Jewish people Jesus and Muhammad were false prophets and they were prophesized, by Daniel, to come to earth lead some of the Jewish people into a false hope and make them worship an idol next to God.

I wonder if you have any "Christians for Muhammad" links. That would be roughly the same thing.
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mind backing up that statement
since i was taught that while christians believe Christ to be the son of god
Jews merely saw him as another prophet, NOT the son of god
no where have i ever heard that Jesus was a false prophet
 
vergiss said:
HAH! If only. Paedophiles (specifically the male ones) never get the harsh sentences they deserve, especially when it's the first offence.

Donkey1499, care to prove that God has a penis?
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you have been presented with numerous facts
put up or shut up already

God has a Huge **** and you are just suffering penis envy:lol:
 
DeeJayH said:
you have been presented with numerous facts
put up or shut up already

God has a Huge **** and you are just suffering penis envy:lol:
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Compelling argument. :neutral:

God is genderless. If you seriously think God's a male... you have issues.

By the way - the "Jews for Jesus" aren't real Jews. We don't consider them as such, and most of the time those idiots weren't even born Jews... it's just another, slightly more retarded way of being born again Christian.

Donkey1499 - I don't trust the word of Jesus, therefore my faith is weak?! :lol: If I were Christian, yeah, but I'm not. I'm Jewish, therefore it proves my faith is very strong indeed.
 
vergiss said:
Compelling argument.

God is genderless. If you seriously think God's a male... you have issues.

By the way - the "Jews for Jesus" aren't real Jews. We don't consider them as such, and most of the time those idiots weren't even born Jews... it's just another, slightly more retarded way of being born again Christian.

Donkey1499 - I don't trust the word of Jesus, therefore my faith is weak?! :lol: If I were Christian, yeah, but I'm not. I'm Jewish, therefore it proves my faith is very strong indeed.
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Actually, I said your faith was weak because you don't trust the word of MOSES.
 
Donkey1499 said:
Actually, I said your faith was weak because you don't trust the word of MOSES.
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Moses didn't say "God is a man."
 
vergiss said:
Moses didn't say "God is a man."
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Moses wrote Genesis, Exodus, and a couple other books. All of which appear in the Torah. And Genesis says numerous times that God is a man. If you don't trust the word of Moses, then why even be a Jew?
 
Donkey1499 said:
Moses wrote Genesis, Exodus, and a couple other books. All of which appear in the Torah. And Genesis says numerous times that God is a man. If you don't trust the word of Moses, then why even be a Jew?
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You seem to be giving Moses a higher stance then Judaism gives him. Moses was a man, he was not divine, he was not a messiah. He was a normal human who happened to have been selected to free the Jewish people from slavery and translate Gods words to human form. He is praised for being such a person but he is not worshipped and his words are not taken as divine law.

If Moses heard a mans voice when he wrote the Torah then of course he would write God as a 'he'.

Personally I believe God is whatever you want him/her/it to be. What ever perception of God is most comfortable/happy/respectful to you is what you will see.
 
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Donkey1499 said:
Moses wrote Genesis, Exodus, and a couple other books. All of which appear in the Torah. And Genesis says numerous times that God is a man. If you don't trust the word of Moses, then why even be a Jew?
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He refers to God as "he", as even I do - it's easier than writing he/she/it all the time. But he does not say "God is a man."

And didn't you say something about not taking the Bible too literally?
 
vergiss said:
He refers to God as "he", as even I do - it's easier than writing he/she/it all the time. But he does not say "God is a man."

And didn't you say something about not taking the Bible too literally?
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Adam was created in God's image. Adam was a man, so there you go. How many times do I need to bring that up.

When did I say to not take the Bible literally? I'm pissed at Pope Benedict for saying to not take the Bible literally.
 
Donkey1499 said:
Adam was created in God's image. Adam was a man, so there you go. How many times do I need to bring that up.

When did I say to not take the Bible literally? I'm pissed at Pope Benedict for saying to not take the Bible literally.
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Last time I said that, I mentioned that if Adam was created literally in God's image, and Adam is a human, then God must be a human, too. You conveniently ignored it.

Somewhere in this thread, I think. I'll have a look.
 
vergiss said:
Last time I said that, I mentioned that if Adam was created literally in God's image, and Adam is a human, then God must be a human, too. You conveniently ignored it.

Somewhere in this thread, I think. I'll have a look.
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>Sigh<... But then again God did appaer to Moses as a burning bush. And God is not limited by the laws of physics or any of that. I know, maybe they call God a he, cuz of his fatherly like instincts. But I still think of God as a man. It's more constant, being as I don't like a lot of change.
 
Yes, think of him as a flying saucepan if you wish. But surely you don't believe that God is literally a man, in the manner which you are, and I am not? He's God!A divine entity is better than us, and genderless.
 
vergiss said:
Yes, think of him as a flying saucepan if you wish. But surely you don't believe that God is literally a man, in the manner which you are, and I am not? He's God!A divine entity is better than us, and genderless.
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flying saucepan? I'd like him better as a burning bush.

God also wrestled Jacob (I think) in the form of a man. That is actually one of my favorite stories. God just comes runnig down a mountain and starts wrestling with Jacob then he kicks Jacob in the hip.

Here's the scripture: Genesis 32:22-32.
 
Wait, so is he a man, or a burning bush?
 
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