SassySmartie
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According to statistics, about 1% of abortions are performed after the 20 week mark. There has been a lot of discussion about why a woman would abort so late. Most opponents of abortion have painted the 20 week + abortions as irresponsible.
Here are real stories of women who have aborted after 20 weeks. Most of them were pregnancies that were wanted and even planned.
Were the Gosnell babies included in that study or just the abortion clinics that were actually inspected regularly?
Gosnell was practicing illegally. He had a market because laws made it difficult for women to find a legal place to have an abortion.
That is total bull****.
That is total bull****.
Agree....a heaping steaming pile of BS from a seminar poster.
Omg the lengths these people will stoop to.
All the moving stories--the first-name only "faces of late-term abortion" anecdotes don't change the fact that some abortionists aren't performing later abortions for legit reasons. During the Gosnell trial, a similar charnal-house clinic was discovered operating in D.C., and a Houston doctor is also being investigated. We don't really know how many illegal "back alley" abortions are being performed. But they're about the money.
Gosnell was practicing illegally. He had a market because laws made it difficult for women to find a legal place to have an abortion. He's a sociopath.
We don't really know how many illegal "back alley" abortions are being performed. But they're about the money.
I notice how they aren't answering your questions and actually discussing the issue ...... probably because they have no valid rebuttal.
What you don't get or are ignoring is the why and who. Why do you think a woman goes to a doctor like Gosnell? and Who do you think is going there?
Gosnell's patients were those that were poor. They did not have the means to travel out of state or hundreds of miles for a legal abortion. They didn't have the money to sue, when they filed complaints against his practice they were ignored. Gosnell is not the norm for abortion clinics. In fact, a vast majority of abortions are performed before 12 weeks and many of those are chemical (drug induced) abortions not surgical procedures. They're safe and non-invasive.
As long as abortion is made difficult for women, there will always be sociopaths like Gosnell to prey on women. If they had legal, safe avenues they'd never venture into dirty, poorly run, understaffed clinics like his.
Also, why are you pointing out "first name only" as if it's some sort of indicator that something is wrong with the entries. Those women have a right to privacy and if they are choosing only to share their first name, that's their right. They shared pictures. Are you suggesting the stories are fabricated?
I'm not suggesting anything. Here's what I said, and this time, it would be lovely if you would read the entire sentence rather than just reading into what I said that fits what you want to read: "All the moving stories--the first-name only "faces of late-term abortion" anecdotes don't change the fact that some abortionists aren't performing later abortions for legit reasons."
Hrm... So he's like every abortionist and virtually every abortionist's clients?
I notice how they aren't answering your questions and actually discussing the issue ...... probably because they have no valid rebuttal.
I'm not suggesting anything. Here's what I said, and this time, it would be lovely if you would read the entire sentence rather than just reading into what I said that fits what you want to read: "All the moving stories--the first-name only "faces of late-term abortion" anecdotes don't change the fact that some abortionists aren't performing later abortions for legit reasons."
And by the way, I don't know anybody here at DP or in real life who would argue over an abortion performed because of catastrophic fetal anomaly. But again, this doesn't mean that unscrupulous abortionists aren't performing medically unnecessary late-term abortions.
Were the Gosnell babies included in that study or just the abortion clinics that were actually inspected regularly?
No, there are abortion clinics that are LEGAL. So, no not every abortion doctor is Gosnell.
Don't act like Gosnell horrified you. If you support laws limiting a women's rights I'm afraid you are allies with sickos like him The anti-choice movement is promoting people like Gosnell by banning legal abortions. They are the friends of the butchers who are just waiting in the wings you to do the dirty work for them. Moving abortions into the shadows is your goal...and maniacs like Gosnell will just love it.
Sociopath is not defined by respect or no respect for the law. It's defined by a lack of moral compass and a disrespect for human rights.
Gosnell is no worse and no better than every other abortionist.
That's your opinion, not based on any fact.
On the contrary, of course, it's your opinion that some abortionists are somehow moral when compared to Gosnell. Guess what? Also not based on any fact.
The facts that legal providers have clean, sterile clinics where their patients are treated with kindness and taken care of is VERY, vastly and completely different from a doctor who is not a board certified ob/gyn with a dirty office, non-medical staff, who keeps the remains of aborted fetuses in milk jugs and containers laying around a clinic with cats running around freely, urine and feces on the floors... yes VAST DIFFERENCE.
Which part?
Gosnell practiced illegally: Gosnell, was not a board-certified obstetrician or gynecologist, performed illegal late term abortions, his clinic was staffed by non-licensed and non-medical staff. He operated illegally. He is a sociopath.
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