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The Elephant in the Room

soylentgreen said:
I did say it to someone. It means we are all white, we are all male, we are all christians , we are all ( ad nauseum)

It's not to hard to figure out the power of the constitution if you read what some women are enduring because of it. It is being translated by people with special interests other than the people. It has no more value than the bible.
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I guess you equally hate the New Zealand Constitution and the Treaty, for that matter.

Cool.
 
Lursa said:
And he keeps demanding that you stick to 'his rules' for arguments :rolleyes: He's bobbing and avoiding all over the place.
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Eventually I will annoy him enough that he will go down to a special place and throw a tantrum.
 
Bodi said:
Regarding equal rights between men and women becoming parents... the Elephant in the Room is that those that argue a man is bound by a woman's choice neatly ignore that a woman can and should have an abortion if she can not care for the child on her own. All of a sudden this choice that she has becomes a certainty that she will have the child regardless or that if she does he is bound by her decision.

The whole reason for pro-choice is to make the best choice... not just the best choice for the woman. Although she is not bound by him anymore and forced to pay for a child he should not be bound to her and forced to pay for a child.

What if he died post-conception but pre-birth... the mother would have to make a choice. That is no different than if the man wants to walk away... she has to make a choice. This is expressly what most dishonest debaters regarding this issue avoid. She can force society should he die or be jobless... nobody bats an eye at her choice... brave proud mother! Right? Nobody cries about the burden on the taxpayers... because she exercised her choice.... but if there is a man there then all of a sudden he has to pay for her choice and if he does not the y'all are mad as hell... insulting him and such... but she is doing the same exact thing... brining a baby into a world that she can not support on her own.

Just an interesting way to look at it...
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You are obsessed with this.

Men and women have equal rights in this. You are allowed to get an abortion, should you get pregnant.
 
Deuce said:
You are obsessed with this.

Men and women have equal rights in this. You are allowed to get an abortion, should you get pregnant.
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Not really... people just keep responding. It is kinda funny with a tinge of sadness.
 
soylentgreen said:
And if your not poor then you do not need any of those attractive qualities. Apparently in america money can buy anything.
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Money can't buy sincerity, as one of my tutorial clients once said. Otherwise . . . .
 
choiceone said:
Money can't buy sincerity, as one of my tutorial clients once said. Otherwise . . . .
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That is because sincerity is not something to be bought. Sincerity is what someone sells when they want you to believe in their version of the after life.
 
Bodi said:
Not really... people just keep responding. It is kinda funny with a tinge of sadness.
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So then you admit that these are all just troll threads, bait? I mean, after this post, it seems it must be:

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or this:

Bodi said:
That has happened and been thrown out by the Judge. Pre-birth contracts are irrelevant compared to the interest of the child.
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Seems hypocritical for you to criticize people for responding to a failed idea that you've posted over and over...and know is wrong...for kids, taxpayers, and society. Just a Hail Mary for men to screw the kids, taxpayers, and society over so they can still have sex without consequences...right?
 
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