The Biden Administration Rejected an October Proposal for “Free Rapid Tests for the Holidays”

[VySky]

There is only one reason and one reason only Biden would refuse the test. He wants folks to spread the virus so everything can get locked down etc. That’s my opinion.
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On October 22, a group of COVID-19 testing experts joined a Zoom call with officials from the Biden administration and presented a strategy for overhauling America’s approach to testing.

The 10-page plan, which Vanity Fair has obtained, would enable the U.S. to finally do what many other countries had already done: Put rapid at-home COVID-19 testing into the hands of average citizens, allowing them to screen themselves in real time and thereby help reduce transmission. The plan called for an estimated 732 million tests per month, a number that would require a major ramp-up of manufacturing capacity. It also recommended, right on the first page, a nationwide “Testing Surge to Prevent Holiday COVID Surge.”

Three days after the meeting, on October 25, the COVID-19 testing experts—who hailed from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, the Rockefeller Foundation, the COVID Collaborative, and several other organizations—received a back channel communication from a White House official. Their big, bold idea for free home tests for all Americans to avoid a holiday surge, they were told, was dead.

The Biden Administration Rejected an October Proposal for “Free Rapid Tests for the Holidays”

With omicron cases spreading like wildfire, the White House is finally taking steps to make free antigen tests available to all. But this fall, Vanity Fair has learned, it dismissed a bold plan to ramp up rapid testing ahead of the holidays. Frustrated experts explain how confusion, distrust...

www.vanityfair.com

 

[Airyaman]

There is only one reason and one reason only Biden would refuse the test. He wants folks to spread the virus so everything can get locked down etc. That’s my opinion.

99% of your threads tell us your opinion is shit.

 

[VySky]

99% of your threads tell us your opinion is shit.

But why would Biden turn down a proposal to slow the spread of Covid by infected Americans?

 

[ecofarm]

99% of your threads tell us your opinion is shit.

Sports?

 

[ecofarm]

But why would Biden turn down a proposal to slow the spread of Covid by infected Americans?

How does that work exactly?

People generally not inclined to wear a mask or distance decide they should because the antibody test shows they have not had Covid? That's gonna happen? People not inclined to take mitigating actions aren't gonna get tested in the first place, let alone change their behavior based on a negative antibody test result.

I don't see how anyone's behavior changes.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

There is only one reason and one reason only Biden would refuse the test. He wants folks to spread the virus so everything can get locked down etc. That’s my opinion.
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On October 22, a group of COVID-19 testing experts joined a Zoom call with officials from the Biden administration and presented a strategy for overhauling America’s approach to testing.

The 10-page plan, which Vanity Fair has obtained, would enable the U.S. to finally do what many other countries had already done: Put rapid at-home COVID-19 testing into the hands of average citizens, allowing them to screen themselves in real time and thereby help reduce transmission. The plan called for an estimated 732 million tests per month, a number that would require a major ramp-up of manufacturing capacity. It also recommended, right on the first page, a nationwide “Testing Surge to Prevent Holiday COVID Surge.”

Three days after the meeting, on October 25, the COVID-19 testing experts—who hailed from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, the Rockefeller Foundation, the COVID Collaborative, and several other organizations—received a back channel communication from a White House official. Their big, bold idea for free home tests for all Americans to avoid a holiday surge, they were told, was dead.

The Biden Administration Rejected an October Proposal for “Free Rapid Tests for the Holidays”

With omicron cases spreading like wildfire, the White House is finally taking steps to make free antigen tests available to all. But this fall, Vanity Fair has learned, it dismissed a bold plan to ramp up rapid testing ahead of the holidays. Frustrated experts explain how confusion, distrust...

www.vanityfair.com

They went the wrong way. Their reasoning is explained in the link you posted. I agree they made the wrong choice. You whacky conspiracy theory about why is just that, a whacky conspiracy theory.

 

[VySky]

How does that work exactly?

People generally not inclined to wear a mask or distance decide they should because the antibody test shows they have not had Covid? That's gonna happen?

I know plenty people who test on their own dime for random reasons. If positive they cancel travel reschedule etc.

 

[ecofarm]

I know plenty people who test on their own dime for random reasons. If positive they cancel travel reschedule etc.

An antibody test shows previous infection not current. How will that affect behavior? It wont because the target audience doesn't get tested, and even if they did a negative test result would not alter their behavior.

 

[VySky]

They went the wrong way. Their reasoning is explained in the link you posted. I agree they made the wrong choice. You whacky conspiracy theory about why is just that, a whacky conspiracy theory.

Actually if you look back at all the inconsistencies over the past 2 years it wasn’t all due to science.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Actually if you look back at all the inconsistencies over the past 2 years it wasn’t all due to science.

What wasn't all due to science?

 

[ecofarm]

Actually if you look back at all the inconsistencies over the past 2 years it wasn’t all due to science.

An antibody test reveals a previous infection, not a current one. How will such tests being widely available change anyone's behavior.

 

[VySky]

An antibody test shows previous infection not current. How will that affect behavior? It wont because the target audience doesn't get tested, and even if they did a negative test result would not alter their behavior.

Rapid Test is what was offered

 

[VySky]

What wasn't all due to science?

Fauci lies.

 

[ecofarm]

Rapid Test is what was offered

An antigen test. We have antibodies in our system for months after infection. It doesn't tell someone they are currently infected, it tells someone they have been infected within the past year (or more).

It's not a Covid test. It doesn't tell someone they have Covid.

The Rapid Test is not diagnostic. So how is it to change anyone's behavior.

Here's what you need to know about COVID-19 testing

Antibody testing shows whether you've had the COVID-19 virus in the past. It's not the same as testing to see whether you have the virus now.

www.mayoclinic.org

You clearly didn't know what you were talking about. "Cancelling flights". You will be unable to articulate how an antigen test affects anyone's behavior. Your claim, "opinion", in the OP is asinine. You've been sold bs. How did that happen.


"So it turns out I had Covid in the past and have recovered. I'm cancelling my flight."

lol

Of course you know these people. Anyone else know people cancelling travel because they recovered from Covid? And now they can't! They can't! Thanks, Biden!

 

[ecofarm]

That said cancelling travel due to previous infection, though arbitrary, would reduce travel. Not entirely a bad thing, merely baseless.

Further and frankly, I would encourage anyone inclined to such baseless action and ignorance of medical science to cancel all travel. Nobody needs it. They should stay in the sticks. So I'm gonna reverse my previous position and say a positive antibody test is good reason to stay in the barn.

 

[Airyaman]

But why would Biden turn down a proposal to slow the spread of Covid by infected Americans?

Not sure, but I'm not going to take wild guesses based on my own biases as you do. Plus, Omicron was not known about when the proposal was made. This variant has changed everything, at least as far as infection rate is concerned.

 

[ecofarm]

Not sure, but I'm not going to take wild guesses based on my own biases as you do. Plus, Omicron was not known about when the proposal was made. This variant has changed everything, at least as far as infection rate is concerned.

Previously infected Americans don't spread Covid. I mean they could but not because of a previous infection from which they recovered. In fact, a positive antibody test means a person is less likely to spread Covid because they've had it and recovered so they're less likely to become infected.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

99% of your threads tell us your opinion is shit.

Amen!

 

[ecofarm]

Does anyone see where this is going?

What happens when someone discovers they've recovered from Covid and are less likely to become infected and far less likely to have serious symptoms? Let's say just before the holidays when they're considering attending a large gathering. What sort of behavior do you think that would incline? Less careful or more careful?

If I gotta spoon feed any more of this, no gold star for anyone.

 

[Crovax]

An antibody test shows previous infection not current. How will that affect behavior? It wont because the target audience doesn't get tested, and even if they did a negative test result would not alter their behavior.

An antibody test reveals a previous infection, not a current one. How will such tests being widely available change anyone's behavior.

An antigen test. We have antibodies in our system for months after infection. It doesn't tell someone they are currently infected, it tells someone they have been infected within the past year (or more).

It's not a Covid test. It doesn't tell someone they have Covid.

The Rapid Test is not diagnostic. So how is it to change anyone's behavior.

Here's what you need to know about COVID-19 testing

Antibody testing shows whether you've had the COVID-19 virus in the past. It's not the same as testing to see whether you have the virus now.

www.mayoclinic.org

You clearly didn't know what you were talking about. "Cancelling flights". You will be unable to articulate how an antigen test affects anyone's behavior. Your claim, "opinion", in the OP is asinine. You've been sold bs. How did that happen.


"So it turns out I had Covid in the past and have recovered. I'm cancelling my flight."

lol

Of course you know these people. Anyone else know people cancelling travel because they recovered from Covid? And now they can't! They can't! Thanks, Biden!

That said cancelling travel due to previous infection, though arbitrary, would reduce travel. Not entirely a bad thing, merely baseless.

Further and frankly, I would encourage anyone inclined to such baseless action and ignorance of medical science to cancel all travel. Nobody needs it. They should stay in the sticks. So I'm gonna reverse my previous position and say a positive antibody test is good reason to stay in the barn.

Previously infected Americans don't spread Covid. I mean they could but not because of a previous infection from which they recovered. In fact, a positive antibody test means a person is less likely to spread Covid because they've had it and recovered so they're less likely to become infected.

Does anyone see where this is going?

What happens when someone discovers they've recovered from Covid and are less likely to become infected and far less likely to have serious symptoms? Let's say just before the holidays when they're considering attending a large gathering. What sort of behavior do you think that would incline? Less careful or more careful?

If I gotta spoon feed any more of this, no gold star for anyone.

Just stop

you have confused an ANTIGEN test with an ANTIBODY test.

A rapid ANTIGEN test will tell if someone currently has covid, the ANTIBODY test tells if they had covid in the past

 

[Crovax]

Antibody vs Antigen Testing for COVID-19

Testing has become a vital part of the response to the COVID-19 pandemic. In addition to the gold standard PCR tests used to detect currently infected individuals, a number of alternative antigen and antibody tests are also in development. In this article, we take a look at the differences...

www.technologynetworks.com

 

[Mr Person]

Just stop

you have confused an ANTIGEN test with an ANTIBODY test.

A rapid ANTIGEN test will tell if someone currently has covid, the ANTIBODY test tells if they had covid in the past

OP said this "There is only one reason and one reason only Biden would refuse the test. He wants folks to spread the virus so everything can get locked down etc. That’s my opinion. "

Perhaps the angle is that the people who are most likely to spread it are the people who refuse measures - masks, vaccines, etc, - unless they are forced to. Are they going to be getting themselves tested with at-home tests? They tend to be the ones that show up in the hospital insisting it must not be COVID. Or begging people to ignore all the other deadly stupid shit they tweeted.


That said, I would want to know more details, and I promised to be doing something, so I'll leave the article open. He did repeatedly talk about having lots of tests.. . .

 

[Mr Person]

Previously infected Americans don't spread Covid. I mean they could but not because of a previous infection from which they recovered. In fact, a positive antibody test means a person is less likely to spread Covid because they've had it and recovered so they're less likely to become infected.

Eh... prior infection will generally mean you knock out reinfection by the same strain fast enough that you don't get symptoms. Then there are variants. "Less likely" is a probably going to be a moving target

 

[Crovax]

OP said this "There is only one reason and one reason only Biden would refuse the test. He wants folks to spread the virus so everything can get locked down etc. That’s my opinion. "

Perhaps the angle is that the people who are most likely to spread it are the people who refuse measures - masks, vaccines, etc, - unless they are forced to. Are they going to be getting themselves tested with at-home tests? They tend to be the ones that show up in the hospital insisting it must not be COVID. Or begging people to ignore all the other deadly stupid shit they tweeted.


That said, I would want to know more details, and I promised to be doing something, so I'll leave the article open. He did repeatedly talk about having lots of tests.. . .

I think that those who don't follow the precautions are more likely to catch it, as a far as spread it I don't know if that has been studied in that capacity

 

[ecofarm]

Eh... prior infection will generally mean you knock out reinfection by the same strain fast enough that you don't get symptoms. Then there are variants. "Less likely" is a probably going to be a moving target

Less likely to be currently infected and thus a carrier given contact. Of course, behavior is the primary factor and that's why the "I don't need to worry" test was not made free for the holidays. It would have been counter-productive. Do we want to spend a ton of money to be counter-productive? I make that guess never having clicked.

Or maybe Biden is trying to kill everyone. Apparently that makes sense too. All I did was think about this for a minute. I didn't read an article or anything.