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The Bible and God

DashingAmerican

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I have a question I've been rolling around that I'd like to share:

Can you believe in the Christian God without believing The Bible?
 
Since I believe God to be the same thing, whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, or any other religion, I believe the answer would be yes.
 
DashingAmerican said:
I have a question I've been rolling around that I'd like to share:

Can you believe in the Christian God without believing The Bible?
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sure if you so desire. Doesn't really give you much room to stay on the straight and narrow, but that is your right.
 
DashingAmerican said:
I have a question I've been rolling around that I'd like to share:

Can you believe in the Christian God without believing The Bible?
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It all depends on what you mean by "believing The Bible." Not all Christians take the Bible literally.
 
if you are reasonable and believe there is only one god
 
If God is love, joy, justice, peace, and every other purely good thing, then I'd say so.
 
So, would you say that those religions worship the book more than the God?
 
I'm agnostic, myself, so I get the benefit of viewing it from the outside.
 
Romans 2:14–16
14 For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves,
15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them,
16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.
 
There was a great deal of diversity in the early Christian movement, including far more gospels (early religious texts) than wound up in the New Testament.

There were dozens of texts written around the same time as those that made "the cut" for inclusion in the New Testament. Many were esoteric and mystical, and espoused religious beliefs that would be unrecognizable to modern Christians.

In addition, some modern Christians regard the New Testament less as a literal chronicle of events, and interpret it in a more figurative manner.
 
JC Callender said:
Romans 2:14–16
14 For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves,
15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them,
16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.
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This is a human trait called empathy...Most of us experience it in the form of conscience.
 
DashingAmerican said:
I have a question I've been rolling around that I'd like to share:

Can you believe in the Christian God without believing The Bible?
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No. If you don't believe the Bible, you wouldn't believe about Christianity.

You can however say, you believe in God. But you can't say you believe in the Christian God.
 
csbrown28 said:
Are you an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist?
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Hahaha that is the question. Honestly, most days I don't know. I'm pretty undecided about it. Though, if I had to say, I'd go agnostic theist.
 
DashingAmerican said:
So, would you say that those religions worship the book more than the God?
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I can't say for the other religions, but the Buddha was just a man who achieved enlightenment. He wasn't and is not a god. He passed down the four noble truths and the eight fold path that would lead one to enlightenment.
 
DashingAmerican said:
I have a question I've been rolling around that I'd like to share:

Can you believe in the Christian God without believing The Bible?
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...without beliving the bible is the literal word of God? Sure.

...without believing a single thing the bible says, that it's all false? No.
 
If I believed everything in the Bible I'd be a Christian.

"The Bible said that God created man in God's image. Man has been returning the favor ever since." ~ Mark Twain
 
DashingAmerican said:
I have a question I've been rolling around that I'd like to share:

Can you believe in the Christian God without believing The Bible?
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yes ... the former is purely a matter of faith and the Bible was written by some guys who weren't even there to actually see anything they wrote about ...
 
DashingAmerican said:
I have a question I've been rolling around that I'd like to share:

Can you believe in the Christian God without believing The Bible?
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Of course. You can believe whatever you want about anything.
 
Medusa said:
they worship prophets more than god
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There is one story popular among certain Muslim mysticists that interprets Satan as fallen because of his love for God: When God created man, He ordered all his angels to bow in front of man. But Satan loved God so much that he would not bow in front of anybody or anything but God -- so he disobeyed and fell.
 
So then this noble Satan who only was banished from heaven by an ahole God because he loved him too much inspires Cain to kill his brother Abel for power and gain and wreaks havoc on the earth. I tend to believe the LDS account where God asked who He should send to do an Atonement for mankind and Jesus volunteers and does it out of love for his brothers and sisters and then Lucipher volunteers solely out of desire for power and gain. His version of the gospel was not to allow free agency but rob the human family of their free agency in thinking he could force virtue on everyone and save everyone. If they weren't allowed to sin there would be no one lost. God chose Christ, love, and free agency, Lucipher rebelled and a 1/3 of heaven followed after him.
 
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So, on a different topic, I have a question. If Lucipher was an angel and angels don't have free will, how did he rebel?

According to Christianity.
 
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