The Atlantic's editor-in-chief says his story about Trump calling vets 'losers' is just the beginnin

[ataraxia]

I believe the guy.

I'm sure he and the rest of the Trump hating media have entire notebooks full of made up nonsense and they'll be continuously releasing the stuff up until election day. (All of it attributed to unnamed sources, of course.)

Can’t be any worse than 6 years straight hearing about Obama’s secret Kenyan birth certificate.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Spazzing out at him won't make him wrong. But I can understand why you're upset that yet again you are forced to insist that existence is conspiring to victimize the most victimized victim ever, Trump.

they're freakin. they know this is the point where Trump lost the next election.


no tears from me.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Translation: Expect more possibly politically motivated hackery bull**** from "anonymous sources"

don't worry. all the releases of info about Trump/his words is mapped out. that's how they do it.

and the closer we get to the election, the more damaging the info. culminating with, of course, people coming forward on camera.


be prepared. this won't be for the faint of heart.

 

[CaughtInThe]

are we talking small rodents or bears in the woods? We need some detail before we can believe it.

...q 2024...

 

[Moot]

I think we need to know if any of those sources are foreign nationals. If foreign nationals or agents of a foreign government have dumped this information in an effort to assist Biden then CNN is committing campaign finance fraud.

If Trump didn't have the protection of free speech in 2016 then CNN and Biden don't get it now. See how that works?

I think we need to see Trump's tax returns. He could be committing tax and bank fraud and money laundering or worse...money laundering his campaign funds to pay off personal lawyers and hookers like he did in 2016.


This is 2020 and Trump is the government now...and the first amendment protects the public's free speech and the free press from the government...that's how it works....not the other way around.

 

[CaughtInThe]

what really sucks is Donald Trump doesn't even happen without decades of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. and they don't get fired/voted out. so the next Donald Trump could be even MORE crazy.


the only saving grace is the most gullible Americans (aged 50-95) won't be around forever.

 

[Casper]

Translation: Expect more possibly politically motivated hackery bull**** from "anonymous sources"

Like this,
Trump and allies ratchet up disinformation efforts in late stage of campaign

 

[mike2810]

Trump lies to cover his lies to cover his lies to cover his lies.

What is very telling is how the devoted Trump supporter ignore or just dismiss that article. I have tried in more than one thread to get them to engage in a meaningful way. No real takers.

 

[CaughtInThe]

What is very telling is how the devoted Trump supporter ignore or just dismiss that article. I have tried in more than one thread to get them to engage in a meaningful way. No real takers.

they know the article/what he said is a killer. it loses the election for him.

 

[mike2810]

they know the article/what he said is a killer. it loses the election for him.

Not sure if its a killer. All depends how many of the Trump supporters will see it as a bad things. For some of the Trump supporters on DP, the article has no effect. Trump walks on water for them.

 

[noonereal]

Not sure if its a killer. All depends how many of the Trump supporters will see it as a bad things. For some of the Trump supporters on DP, the article has no effect. Trump walks on water for them.

this absolutely has no effect on 40% of the country, the cultists.

nothing does, literally nothing.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Buckle up Trump supporters...

Talk is cheap, facts are facts.


• ⁠In May 2020, the White House ended National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits
• ⁠The Trump admin seized 5 million masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government
• ⁠Trump fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew. The virus subsequently spread amongst the crew.
• ⁠After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches"
• ⁠On July 20, 2017, in room 2E924 of the Pentagon, Trump told a room full of Generals, "You’re a bunch of dopes and babies"
• ⁠Pardoned multiple war criminals, which stomped on long standing military values, discipline, and command. Trump has no military experience (May&Nov, 2019)
• ⁠Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer, resulting in the Army providing him protection
• ⁠Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange.
• ⁠There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported. Wounded war vet, Sen Duckworth (D) marked Veterans Day 2019 by visiting this facility
• ⁠Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built
• ⁠On Oct 7, 2019, Trump abruptly withdrew support from America's allies in Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces.
• ⁠Trump sent thousands of American troops to defend the oil assets of the country that perpetrated 9/11
• ⁠In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew, flying from the U.S. to Kuwait stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money, so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there.
• ⁠In Sept, 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall.
• ⁠In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, who are now running Veterans Affairs, are rampant with meddling. "They had no experience in veterans affairs (none of them even served in the military) nor underwent any kind of approval process to serve as de facto managers. Yet, with Trump’s approval, they directed actions and criticized operations without any oversight. They wasted valuable staff time in hundreds of pages of communications and meetings, emails show. Emails reveal disdainful attitudes within the department to the trio’s meddling."
• ⁠Veterans graves will be "dug up" for the border wall, after Trump instructed aides to seize private property. Trump told officials he would pardon them if they break the law by illegally seizing property
• ⁠Children of deployed US troops are no longer guaranteed citizenship. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)
• ⁠On Aug 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall
• ⁠On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals
• ⁠Trump denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019)
• ⁠Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019)
• ⁠Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)
• ⁠In June, 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance"
• ⁠Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019)
• ⁠Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported on June 4th, 2019)
• ⁠Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported June 4th, 2019)
• ⁠On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech because they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain
• ⁠Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019)
• ⁠Trump purged 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment system) (reported on May 13, 2019)
• ⁠Trump deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)
• ⁠On March 20, 2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

• ⁠Between 12/22/2018, and 1/25/2019, Trump refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, forcing the Coast Guard to go without pay, which made service members rely on food pantries. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise
• ⁠He banned service members from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019)
• ⁠He denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published Jan 18, 2019)
• ⁠He tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019)
• ⁠When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1 (Jan 26, 2019)
• ⁠He called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019)
• ⁠He increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)
• ⁠He finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (Dec 26, 2018)
• ⁠He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)
• ⁠Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018). He tried giving the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't.
• ⁠He fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays
• ⁠He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)
• ⁠He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)
• ⁠He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)
• ⁠He canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018)
• ⁠While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain -- other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)
• ⁠He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018)
• ⁠He stopped using troops as a political prop immediately after the election. However, the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)
• ⁠Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many vets to run out of food and rent. (reported October 7, 2018)
• ⁠Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)
• ⁠Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)
• ⁠He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)
• ⁠He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sends contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission because Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it) (Oct 4, 2017)
• ⁠He blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)
• ⁠He ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)
• ⁠He deported veterans (2017-present)
• ⁠He said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)
• ⁠On Oct 3, 2016, Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong (note: yes, he said it's 'because they aren't strong.' He didn't say it's 'because they're weak.' This distinction is important because of Snopes)
• ⁠Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)
• ⁠Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present)
• ⁠Trump sent funds raised from a Jan 2016 veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation instead of veterans charities (the foundation has since been ordered shut because of fraud) (Jan, 2016)
• ⁠Trump said he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military" because he went to a military-style academy (2015 biography)
• ⁠Trump said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who were not caught (July 18, 2015)
• ⁠Trump said having unprotected sex was his own personal Vietnam (1998)
• ⁠For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances outside of Trump Tower. 1991
• ⁠Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.
• ⁠No Trump in America has ever served in the military; this spans 5 generations, and every branch of the family tree. In fact, the reason his grandfather immigrated to America was to avoid military service.

 

[Lutherf]

I think we need to see Trump's tax returns. He could be committing tax and bank fraud and money laundering or worse...money laundering his campaign funds to pay off personal lawyers and hookers like he did in 2016.


This is 2020 and Trump is the government now...and the first amendment protects the public's free speech and the free press from the government...that's how it works....not the other way around.

The first Amendment DOES NOT grant anonymity. It protects political speech from prosecution but in no way, shape or form does it protect the identity of the person that speaks. As far as the press goes, there is a recognized protection for certain sources when there may be a substantial danger to the source. Being Tweeted at is not a substantial danger.

 

[Mycroft]

Can’t be any worse than 6 years straight hearing about Obama’s secret Kenyan birth certificate.

Yes, it can...and it is.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Not sure if its a killer. All depends how many of the Trump supporters will see it as a bad things. For some of the Trump supporters on DP, the article has no effect. Trump walks on water for them.

I'm not taking about Trump's rabid supporters.

 

[CaughtInThe]

this absolutely has no effect on 40% of the country, the cultists.

nothing does, literally nothing.

Correct

 

[Parrish]

He took credit for the Choice program.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump takes credit for Obama'''s gains for vets

Trump said he passed a private-sector health care program, Veterans Choice, after failed attempts by past presidents for the last “45 years.” That’s not true. The Choice program, which allows veterans to see doctors outside the government-run VA system at taxpayer expense, was first passed in 2014 under President Barack Obama.

Trump’s VA secretary, Robert Wilkie, also is distorting the facts. Faulting previous “bad leadership” at VA, Wilkie suggested it was his own efforts that improved waiting times at VA medical centers and brought new offerings of same-day mental health service. The problem: The study cited by Wilkie on wait times covers the period from 2014 to 2017, before Wilkie took the helm as VA secretary. Same-day mental health services at VA were started during the Obama administration.

 

[BlueTex]

The first Amendment DOES NOT grant anonymity. It protects political speech from prosecution but in no way, shape or form does it protect the identity of the person that speaks. As far as the press goes, there is a recognized protection for certain sources when there may be a substantial danger to the source. Being Tweeted at is not a substantial danger.

There is also no requirement for the press to reveal their sources unless ordered by a court.

Whine, cry, stomp your feet all you want.. anonymous sources aren’t going away

 

[CaughtInThe]

There is also no requirement for the press to reveal their sources unless ordered by a court.

Whine, cry, stomp your feet all you want.. anonymous sources aren’t going away

my guess is that the release of really bad stuff about Trump will be steady and get worse.

i think it ends with a bunch of people coming forward.

 

[Moot]

The first Amendment DOES NOT grant anonymity. It protects political speech from prosecution but in no way, shape or form does it protect the identity of the person that speaks. As far as the press goes, there is a recognized protection for certain sources when there may be a substantial danger to the source. Being Tweeted at is not a substantial danger.

I DID NOT SAY IT DID.

The first amendment doesn't grant anyone anything...it simply protects political speech and the free press FROM THE GOVERNMENT. And as president, TRUMP IS THE GOVERNMENT.

The first amendment protects the freedom of the press to use anonymous sources just as it protected Jefferson and Madison anonymous identities when they wrote and published the Kentucky and Virginia resolutions in defiance of Adam's Alien and Sedition Act of 1798.

Anonymity in the press is as America as apple pie.

 

[Sabre]

Buckle up Trump supporters...


Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, said his magazine's story about Trump calling Americans who died in battle "losers" and "suckers," was just the tip of the iceberg.

"I would fully expect more reporting to come out about this and more confirmation and new pieces of information in the coming days and weeks," Goldberg told CNN's Chief Media Correspondent Brian Stelter on "Reliable Sources" Sunday. "We have a responsibility and we're going to do it regardless of what he says."
The magazine received backlash -- from Trump and many others -- for attributing the information to four anonymous sources. CNN has confirmed several aspects of The Atlantic's reporting, also with sources who chose to remain anonymous.
But Goldberg said that's how the media is able to do its job of uncovering stories that take place behind closed doors.

The Atlantic's editor-in-hief Jeffrey Goldberg says his story about Trump calling vets 'losers' is just the beginning - CNN

I fully expect many many more of these fake stories to be highlighted in the sycophant media. They are sacred to death Trump is going to win and are pulling out all the stops on the sleaze machine.

 

[Drawdown]

I fully expect many many more of these fake stories to be highlighted in the sycophant media. They are sacred to death Trump is going to win and are pulling out all the stops on the sleaze machine.

It really is a bizarre dynamic. Even Joe's ad blaming the violence at the riots on militia people doesn't pass the smell test. This really is an Orwellian election.

 

[Cardinal]

Breaking News: people who hear President say horrible things every day in public doubt he says horrible things in private

 

[CaughtInThe]

Breaking News: people who hear President say horrible things every day in public doubt he says horrible things in private

Ha...