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Texts surface between Don. Jr. and Mark Meadows

He keeps calling it a "dog and pony show" and I keep asking him how that could be since it isn't televised or known. To which he just ignores it and repeats his bullshit.
I should move to his hometown and become the biggest trump supporter ever and lead his local chapter of Donald Trump supporters so I can lead him around by the leash and be his political daddy.
 
Who gets an indictment first, if at all, Meadows or the most recent House referrals, Scavino, Navarro.


IIRC, Meadows referral was over three months ago……
Hey remember when trump committed abuse of power with Ukraine, and obstruction of justice with the Mueller investigation and Comey, and nobody opened an investigation into him?

Trump is a Matrix agent. Prove me wrong.
 
Who gets an indictment first, if at all, Meadows or the most recent House referrals, Scavino, Navarro.


IIRC, Meadows referral was over three months ago……
DOJ will get on it soon after the midterm republicans are sworn in
 
Hey remember when trump committed abuse of power with Ukraine, and obstruction of justice with the Mueller investigation and Comey, and nobody opened an investigation into him?

Trump is a Matrix agent. Prove me wrong.
I want them to move also but I do realize they're between a rock and a hard place. If they move too fast and the whole thing becomes a circus then it's a major victory for republicans. If they make sure every I is dotted and every T is crossed they piss all of us off because they're moving too slow.

This is very strange era and includes the most high level political figures we have (that followers would kill for). None of this is going to be normal.
 
I want them to move also but I do realize they're between a rock and a hard place. If they move too fast and the whole thing becomes a circus then it's a major victory for republicans. If they make sure every I is dotted and every T is crossed they piss all of us off because they're moving too slow.

This is very strange era and includes the most high level political figures we have (that followers would kill for). None of this is going to be normal.
There isn’t a path where the DOJ legitimately pursues a criminal investigation into trump and the GOP doesn’t turn it into a circus.
 
There isn’t a path where the DOJ legitimately pursues a criminal investigation into trump and the GOP doesn’t turn it into a circus.
But, if they don't cover every contingency, then Tucker grabs on to that one weakness and convinces independents that it's all "fake".

I want smart.
 
But, if they don't cover every contingency, then Tucker grabs on to that one weakness and convinces independents that it's all "fake".

I want smart.
That’s what they’ll do anyway. If you want to avoid them turning something into a circus then you have to stop running Democratic candidates, stop voting, and agree never to hold republicans accountable for anything ever. That is how you avoid a bullshit Tucker rant.
 
Sure looks like the investigation is getting awful close to Trump himself.


Donald Trump Jr. texted Mark Meadows ideas on how to overturn the 2020 election: report

Donald Trump Jr., former President Donald Trump's eldest son, texted then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows ideas to overturn the 2020 results before most major news networks had called the election, according to a CNN report published Friday.

"It's very simple," Trump Jr. wrote in a text message to Meadows on November 5, 2020, two days before the major news networks declared Joe Biden the winner. "We have multiple paths We control them all."

The messages are part of a trove of records being examined by the House select committee investigating the January 6 Capitol siege, CNN reported.

Acting as if we have a 3rd world government makes us a third world government.

Trump will not be arrested for this so we are now a 3rd world government.
 
That’s what they’ll do anyway. If you want to avoid them turning something into a circus then you have to stop running Democratic candidates, stop voting, and agree never to hold republicans accountable for anything ever. That is how you avoid a bullshit Tucker rant.
They can do it for a case that's full of holes or they can do it for a case that's pretty airtight.

I pick smart.
 
They can do it for a case that's full of holes or they can do it for a case that's pretty airtight.

I pick smart.
And that's fine, but don't think there's some pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that's labeled "Republicans don't turn it into a circus."
 
And that's fine, but don't think that there's some pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that isn't labeled "Republicans circus."
Agree

But we don't want the verdict that came back for those 2 of the 6 people that planned the kidnapping.
 
Agree

But we don't want the verdict that came back for those 2 of the 6 people that planned the kidnapping.
Less likely, because of where the trial would be held. (But, of course, not impossible).
 
And that's fine, but don't think there's some pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that's labeled "Republicans don't turn it into a circus."

A criminal trial turning into a circus is not the biggest concern. Trump getting away with his crimes is a far bigger concern.

The rule of law is irreparably damaged if Trump is not held accountable for Jan 6. Even worse, there will be no deterrent to prevent Republicans from doing it again in the future. And they most assuredly will.
 
Agree

But we don't want the verdict that came back for those 2 of the 6 people that planned the kidnapping.

No, but it's still better to at least try to hold Trump accountable than to cowardly do nothing.
 
No, but it's still better to at least try to hold Trump accountable than to cowardly do nothing.
If they start prosecutions before they have a really good case and they end up looking like fools then all sane people are going to explode.

I want smart. But I also understand they're under a time limit because of the sleazy ass corrupt republicans that may be in charge after the next election.
 
If they start prosecutions before they have a really good case and they end up looking like fools then all sane people are going to explode.

I want smart. But I also understand they're under a time limit because of the sleazy ass corrupt republicans that may be in charge after the next election.
Fortunately, Biden and the Democrats will control the Justice Dept until Jan 2025, regardless of the Republican corruption and idiocy that goes on in Congress. There is simply no excuse for Garland not to bring charges by the end of this year.

And charges should have already been brought against Trump for his phone call to GA Sec of State Raffensperger. That is a very simple case compared to the Jan 6 conspiracy. Garland is not the right person for this job, and many Democrats were concerned about him being appointed AG in the first place, myself included. Garland wants to give the appearance of being apolitical, but that is simply impossible when it comes to Jan 6.
 
Hey remember when trump committed abuse of power with Ukraine, and obstruction of justice with the Mueller investigation and Comey, and nobody opened an investigation into him?

Trump is a Matrix agent. Prove me wrong.
I only hope that the reluctance stems from the fact that once a former leader is charged, we will take our place with the Myanmars, Burkina Fasos and other countries where the government is dependent on what day of the week it is…….
 
I only hope that the reluctance stems from the fact that once a former leader is charged, we will take our place with the Myanmars, Burkina Fasos and other countries where the government is dependent on what day of the week it is…….
If our democracy is so fragile that we can't prosecute crimes for fear of it starting a civil war, then we're already a failed state.
 
If our democracy is so fragile that we can't prosecute crimes for fear of it starting a civil war, then we're already a failed state.
I think we passed the tipping point a while back, exactly when is not as clear. I think before NOV2016.


disclaimer: I’ve always been a half empty kind of person….
 
Sure looks like the investigation is getting awful close to Trump himself.


Donald Trump Jr. texted Mark Meadows ideas on how to overturn the 2020 election: report

Donald Trump Jr., former President Donald Trump's eldest son, texted then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows ideas to overturn the 2020 results before most major news networks had called the election, according to a CNN report published Friday.

"It's very simple," Trump Jr. wrote in a text message to Meadows on November 5, 2020, two days before the major news networks declared Joe Biden the winner. "We have multiple paths We control them all."

The messages are part of a trove of records being examined by the House select committee investigating the January 6 Capitol siege, CNN reported.
Completely unsurprising that jr would be involved. I don’t see anything in the article that would put himself or his father in legal jeopardy though.
 
I think we passed the tipping point a while back, exactly when is not as clear. I think before NOV2016.


disclaimer: I’ve always been a half empty kind of person….
Hey, at least you think there’s a glass. That’s something.
 
Completely unsurprising that jr would be involved. I don’t see anything in the article that would put himself or his father in legal jeopardy though.
Mens rea. There was always intent to overturn the election (that’s a coup).
 
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