Texas looks to criminalize the use of their highways to get an abortion

[Shrink726]

This really is shaping up to be the American Taliban 2.0.

What do R nutjobs have up their sleeves next? Mandatory burkhas, making education past 8th grade illegal for women?

These guys really have their finger on the pulse of sane Americans.

If they never want to win another election they're doing a great job.

Texas highways are the next anti-abortion target. One town is resisting.

Even in conservative corners of Texas, efforts to crack down on abortion travel are meeting resistance with some local officials who support Texas’s strict abortion laws, expressing concern that the efforts go too far.

www.texastribune.org

 

[Jessie C]

This really is shaping up to be the American Taliban 2.0.

What do R nutjobs have up their sleeves next? Mandatory burkhas, making education past 8th grade illegal for women?

These guys really have their finger on the pulse of sane Americans.

If they never want to win another election they're doing a great job.

Texas highways are the next anti-abortion target. One town is resisting.

Even in conservative corners of Texas, efforts to crack down on abortion travel are meeting resistance with some local officials who support Texas’s strict abortion laws, expressing concern that the efforts go too far.

www.texastribune.org

I can't imagine or even begin to come up with a workable logistical LEGAL or illegal way of this ever happening. Unless women are plugged into a state wide database that monitors literally every movement of their lives, it's not doable. I smell the stench of right wing fear mongering....

 

[JasperL]

I can't imagine or even begin to come up with a workable logistical LEGAL or illegal way of this ever happening. Unless women are plugged into a state wide database that monitors literally every movement of their lives, it's not doable. I smell the stench of right wing fear mongering....

From the article:

That frustration is driving a new strategy in heavily conservative cities and counties across Texas. Designed by the architects of the state’s “heartbeat” ban that took effect months before Roe fell, ordinances like the one proposed in Llano — where some 80 percent of voters in the county backed President Donald Trump in 2020 — make it illegal to transport anyone to get an abortion on roads within the city or county limits. The laws allow any private citizen to sue a person or organization they suspect of violating the ordinance.

So I live there, and in my spare time I go visit the abortion clinics near the state line, look for TX license plates, then follow them back across the border into Texas, then I file a private lawsuit, for my bounty money. The E. German Stasi would be proud!!

 

[ElChupacabra]

This is some seriously idiotic legislation, but the rationale is definitely there to help the folks dedicated enough to bring cases against individuals or organizations. The problem here is this turns citizens against citizens over how they manage their healthcare, and I can't imagine there being a good outcome in this kind of environment. I'm glad to see there's been pushback even in conservative leaning areas.

 

[Ishm]

Calling this the creation of an American Taliban is looking more and more correct. Asking neighbors to spy on and sue their neighbors creates the sort of sick community that we saw in those oppressive regimes that America has been fighting against for 150 years. Now they want to turn America into what they used to fight against. Sickening!

 

[multivita-man]

This really is shaping up to be the American Taliban 2.0.

What do R nutjobs have up their sleeves next? Mandatory burkhas, making education past 8th grade illegal for women?

These guys really have their finger on the pulse of sane Americans.

If they never want to win another election they're doing a great job.

Texas highways are the next anti-abortion target. One town is resisting.

Even in conservative corners of Texas, efforts to crack down on abortion travel are meeting resistance with some local officials who support Texas’s strict abortion laws, expressing concern that the efforts go too far.

www.texastribune.org

I've felt for some time that abortion bans per se weren't going to break the Republican party, but I do believe they will eventually do something that will so badly enrage women that enough of them will wake up and see what they really are. I'm not sure if this particular law would do it, but wait long enough and they'll eventually come after contraception and birth control - and that probably would do it.

 

[multivita-man]

I can't imagine or even begin to come up with a workable logistical LEGAL or illegal way of this ever happening. Unless women are plugged into a state wide database that monitors literally every movement of their lives, it's not doable. I smell the stench of right wing fear mongering....

This is a good time to remind people to be more aware of their digital footprint and the kinds of information prosecutors can get, sometimes without necessarily even having to get a warrant.

 

[Helix]

I don't think that restricting interstate travel is legal.

They will likely go after birth control next. When a dog catches the car, it still likes to chase cars.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

This really is shaping up to be the American Taliban 2.0.

What do R nutjobs have up their sleeves next? Mandatory burkhas, making education past 8th grade illegal for women?

These guys really have their finger on the pulse of sane Americans.

If they never want to win another election they're doing a great job.

Texas highways are the next anti-abortion target. One town is resisting.

Even in conservative corners of Texas, efforts to crack down on abortion travel are meeting resistance with some local officials who support Texas’s strict abortion laws, expressing concern that the efforts go too far.

www.texastribune.org

Not even a little surprising. Dumb **** extreme anti-choicers will always look for ways to punish others for not abiding their moral code.

 

[Jessie C]

Not even a little surprising. Dumb **** extreme anti-choicers will always look for ways to punish others for not abiding their moral code.

Speaking of their moral code...Where the hell has it been for the last 50 years????? NOT A PEEP from the right phony's till the SCOTUS overturned Roe.....

 

[multivita-man]

I don't think that restricting interstate travel is legal.

Restricting interstate travel for the commission of a state-level crime might be, though. I know it shouldn't be, but that's possible, especially with the current group of Salem witch burners sitting on the Supreme Court bench.

They will likely go after birth control next. When a dog catches the car, it still likes to chase cars.

They will, and that is really going to be the ultimate solution: they will have to be voted out of power in landslide fashion, and when they are kicked out of power, the majority - hopefully a supermajority - will have to slam the door shut and bolt it so that they can't get back in.

The only way to stop this madness is to drive them into political extinction, and that will likely only happen when enough of the middle 10-15 percent of voters who typically don't give a shit about politics and would probably rather invest more time following their fantasy teams or Netflix dramas begin to realize that a) the Republicans are political terrorists, and b) they can actually do something about them...but time may be running out.

On our current trajectory, it's not just women seeking abortion who are going to have their rights compromised.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Speaking of their moral code...Where the hell has it been for the last 50 years????? NOT A PEEP from the right phony's till the SCOTUS overturned Roe.....

They were anxiously waiting, writing trigger laws and planning to repeal laws that protect women’s healthcare choices.

 

[Jessie C]

Speaking of their moral code...Where the hell has it been for the last 50 years????? NOT A PEEP from the right phony's till the SCOTUS overturned Roe.....

I remember when Roe became law. I was 17, and I remember the horror stories among the people I knew of illegal back ally abortions performed by drunk Doctors. 1973. The women got lucky. And now they're not again.

 

[multivita-man]

They were anxiously waiting, writing trigger laws and planning to repeal laws that protect women’s healthcare choices.

It's not just about women's rights, and it's not just women's rights that are in danger. Abortion is a beachead.

It's no coincidence that just as Republicans seemingly out-compete each other to find ways to impose more restrictions on abortion, gays, trans, and wokeness, they're also actively kicking around restrictions on voting. They really have to if they want to continue proposing/passing highly unpopular laws and keep their political majority. Something has to give, and that something, as far as they are concerned, will come in the form of aggressive disenfranchisement.

Inside the right’s effort to build a voter fraud hunting tool

Experts warn that EagleAI, a database that helps voters examine the voter rolls themselves, could drown election workers in unreliable reports of ineligible voters.

www.nbcnews.com

Inside the right’s effort to build a voter fraud hunting tool​

Experts warn that EagleAI, a database that helps voters examine the voter rolls themselves, could drown election workers in unreliable reports of ineligible voters.

That AI is being used to potentially overwhelm poll workers isn't as concerning as it is the possibility that this could be used to inaccurately purge voters from rolls - in substantial numbers

 

[RaleBulgarian]

It's not just about women's rights, and it's not just women's rights that are in danger. Abortion is a beachead.

It's no coincidence that just as Republicans seemingly out-compete each other to find ways to impose more restrictions on abortion, gays, trans, and wokeness, they're also actively kicking around restrictions on voting. They really have to if they want to continue proposing/passing highly unpopular laws and keep their political majority. Something has to give, and that something, as far as they are concerned, will come in the form of aggressive disenfranchisement.

Thanks. I already understand the bigger picture.

 

[zincwarrior]

The article didn't say how they intend to enforce Gideon Legislative Act 2.0.

So you need people from out of state come in, pick the person up then drop them back off.

Also does this make interstate bus drivers liable? What about trains?

 

[multivita-man]

The article didn't say how they intend to enforce Gideon Legislative Act 2.0.

So you need people from out of state come in, pick the person up then drop them back off.

Also does this make interstate bus drivers liable? What about trains?

They'd presumably have to prove intent or knowledge or awareness of their transport of someone seeking an abortion

 

[BirdinHand]

Restricting interstate travel for the commission of a state-level crime might be, though

Does that mean people won’t be allowed to travel to Vegas or Atlantic City or Louisiana or CT or <insert location of other casinos here> to gamble at a casino…illegal in your home state.

 

[Jessie C]

Does that mean people won’t be allowed to travel to Vegas or Atlantic City or Louisiana or CT or <insert location of other casinos here> to gamble at a casino…illegal in your home state.

Here's the big question. Thousands of roads crossing state lines in all directions; monitor every car for a pregnant woman, then NAB them when they cross the state line!

OK then... This is just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard of, a silly fantasy!

 

[multivita-man]

Does that mean people won’t be allowed to travel to Vegas or Atlantic City or Louisiana or CT or <insert location of other casinos here> to gamble at a casino…illegal in your home state.

That is indeed a very interesting, legit question that will eventually have to be settled.

 

[Rexedgar]

Does that mean people won’t be allowed to travel to Vegas or Atlantic City or Louisiana or CT or <insert location of other casinos here> to gamble at a casino…illegal in your home state.

That’s different!


/s

 

[BirdinHand]

That is indeed a very interesting, legit question that will eventually have to be settled.

It also begs the question about Indian reservations and could undercut those treaties, etc.

For instance, CT.

Gambling/casinos in CT are on Indian reservations.

 

[Helix]

Restricting interstate travel for the commission of a state-level crime might be, though. I know it shouldn't be, but that's possible, especially with the current group of Salem witch burners sitting on the Supreme Court bench.



They will, and that is really going to be the ultimate solution: they will have to be voted out of power in landslide fashion, and when they are kicked out of power, the majority - hopefully a supermajority - will have to slam the door shut and bolt it so that they can't get back in.

The only way to stop this madness is to drive them into political extinction, and that will likely only happen when enough of the middle 10-15 percent of voters who typically don't give a shit about politics and would probably rather invest more time following their fantasy teams or Netflix dramas begin to realize that a) the Republicans are political terrorists, and b) they can actually do something about them...but time may be running out.

On our current trajectory, it's not just women seeking abortion who are going to have their rights compromised.

When you go to another state and do something legal there, it isn't a crime. For example, if one takes a trip to Colorado and smokes marijuana, it is legal regardless of where the person came from.

As for the Republican Party, it can only be deradicalized by voter rejection.

 

[Jessie C]

When you go to another state and do something legal there, it isn't a crime. For example, if one takes a trip to Colorado and smokes marijuana, it is legal regardless of where the person came from.

As for the Republican Party, it can only be deradicalized by voter rejection.

I have a friend who lives in Nebraska. It's illegal there. But she can drive to Illinois, or Colorado and buy it all day long, and it's legal.

Cross state lines with it to bring it home; now it's illegal....Just another reason the Fed needs to just legalize it and be done with it.

 

[Helix]

I have a friend who lives in Nebraska. It's illegal there. But she can drive to Illinois, or Colorado and buy it all day long, and it's legal.

Cross state lines with it to bring it home; now it's illegal....Just another reason the Fed needs to just legalize it and be done with it.

I agree.