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Texas girl, 15, trafficked from Mavericks game in Dallas; 8 arrested in Oklahoma: police

Rexedgar

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I grew up in a very different country. From the age of nine or ten, I was let loose in the morning with some lunch money and I wasn’t expected back until supper time. I was taught not to talk to strangers and there were a few times that I may have been “targeted,” but bluffed my way through them. I cannot imagine taking my teenage child to a sporting event and having them disappear from a restroom trip. I imagine in this day and age one cannot be too careful and with a female child you would keep them in sight or at least wait outside for them to do what comes naturally.
In reflection, I am glad that I am where I am age-wise. I don’t envy parents wits their tasks today.

 
Are the different forms of child trafficking more or less prevalent?

The internet makes it much easier for predators to get access to victims.

Also, rampant inequality is one of the conditions where illegal activities flourish.
 
Look at who failed miserably:

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After the girl left to use the bathroom at the AAC and did not return, her father "immediately notified AAC security, staff, and Dallas police officers of her disappearance." By the time the game ended, she "had not been found," and her father was instructed to return home.

Fortenberry says the Dallas Police Department (DPD) never opened an investigation into the case despite multiple pleas from the victim's parents.
 
Are the different forms of child trafficking more or less prevalent?

The internet makes it much easier for predators to get access to victims.

Also, rampant inequality is one of the conditions where illegal activities flourish.
Rampant inequality at a Dallas sporting event where ticket prices equal a car payment? 😆😆😆
Come on man, this was just a bunch of pimps trying to turn out a potential ho, and it has nothing to do with inequality and everything to do with the pimping business.
 
Rampant inequality at a Dallas sporting event where ticket prices equal a car payment? 😆😆😆
Come on man, this was just a bunch of pimps trying to turn out a potential ho, and it has nothing to do with inequality and everything to do with the pimping business.

Inequality is nationwide and worldwide. There's the formal economy and underground economies. The harder it is to make it in the formal economy, the more likely it is that more people will make it in underground economies.
 
I grew up in a very different country. From the age of nine or ten, I was let loose in the morning with some lunch money and I wasn’t expected back until supper time. I was taught not to talk to strangers and there were a few times that I may have been “targeted,” but bluffed my way through them. I cannot imagine taking my teenage child to a sporting event and having them disappear from a restroom trip. I imagine in this day and age one cannot be too careful and with a female child you would keep them in sight or at least wait outside for them to do what comes naturally.
In reflection, I am glad that I am where I am age-wise. I don’t envy parents wits their tasks today.


Marone! What a crowd! :eek:

The Oklahoma City Police Department has arrested Saniya Alexander, Melissa Wheeler, Chevaun Gibson, Kenneth Nelson, Sarah Hayes, Karen Gonzales, Thalia Gibson and Steven Hill in connection to the trafficking case. Gibson is charged with offering to engage in prostitution; Nelson, Hayes and Gonzales are charged with human trafficking and distribution of child pornography; Hill is charged with rape; Gibson and Alexander have felony warrants; and Wheeler has a robbery warrant.
 
I grew up in a very different country. From the age of nine or ten, I was let loose in the morning with some lunch money and I wasn’t expected back until supper time. I was taught not to talk to strangers and there were a few times that I may have been “targeted,” but bluffed my way through them. I cannot imagine taking my teenage child to a sporting event and having them disappear from a restroom trip. I imagine in this day and age one cannot be too careful and with a female child you would keep them in sight or at least wait outside for them to do what comes naturally.
In reflection, I am glad that I am where I am age-wise. I don’t envy parents wits their tasks today.


I think it's too easy to look back upon our childhoods, using rose-tinted glasses.

Back then aberrant behaviour was less prosecuted, unless overtly malicious. Fewer things made the news, and there was no electronic communications as there is now. We are now more informed than ever, and pay attention to more detail than ever, including in to objectionable behaviour and criminal citing & prosecution.

I grew-up with tons of misfits and weirdos in my busy crowded neighborhood, and simply dealt with them as a regular matter of recourse. Our parents gave us more freedoms in part, because with families having 5 or 6 kids often closely spaced, it's near impossible to closely watch each one every minute of the day, especially when the parent doing the domestic work to keep a large family going in the pre-tech era. That's why they put the oldest one in charge of the younger, and kept that process going through the years.

I believe your statement I bolded, speaks to my inferences above.
 
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Are the different forms of child trafficking more or less prevalent?

The internet makes it much easier for predators to get access to victims.

Also, rampant inequality is one of the conditions where illegal activities flourish.

The kidnapping was at a sporting event, which required purchase of tickets.

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Are the different forms of child trafficking more or less prevalent?

The internet makes it much easier for predators to get access to victims.

Also, rampant inequality is one of the conditions where illegal activities flourish.
There was far more ugly crime in the 50-60's . Everything from incest, trafficking, abuse, child porn... it was simply not as talked about. We were not as aware.
Also, at 15, a girl is plenty old enough to go to the rest room alone.
There is simply no way we as parents or as a society can eliminate all risks to kids. Frankly, we gave done amazingly well
 
Are the different forms of child trafficking more or less prevalent?

The internet makes it much easier for predators to get access to victims.

Also, rampant inequality is one of the conditions where illegal activities flourish.
Ok, ill bite. How does the internet makes it "much easier for predators?"
 
The kidnapping was at a sporting event, which required purchase of tickets.

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Purchasing tickets is irrelevant.
 
There was far more ugly crime in the 50-60's . Everything from incest, trafficking, abuse, child porn... it was simply not as talked about. We were not as aware.
Also, at 15, a girl is plenty old enough to go to the rest room alone.

I think so, but it's complicated, as per what I said in #2.

There is simply no way we as parents or as a society can eliminate all risks to kids. Frankly, we gave done amazingly well

My #3 shows a quote from the article that shows what look to be two blatant failures.
 
It's very easy for predators to access victims on the internet.

Bullshit.

Explain and document. I hear people say this crap all the time but it's simple folklore . There have always been predators and will always be predators. The internet has zero to do with this.
 
There was far more ugly crime in the 50-60's . Everything from incest, trafficking, abuse, child porn... it was simply not as talked about. We were not as aware.
Also, at 15, a girl is plenty old enough to go to the rest room alone.
There is simply no way we as parents or as a society can eliminate all risks to kids. Frankly, we gave done amazingly well
One would think so; would you take the chance, especially after this report?
 
I grew up in a very different country. From the age of nine or ten, I was let loose in the morning with some lunch money and I wasn’t expected back until supper time. I was taught not to talk to strangers and there were a few times that I may have been “targeted,” but bluffed my way through them. I cannot imagine taking my teenage child to a sporting event and having them disappear from a restroom trip. I imagine in this day and age one cannot be too careful and with a female child you would keep them in sight or at least wait outside for them to do what comes naturally.
In reflection, I am glad that I am where I am age-wise. I don’t envy parents wits their tasks today.

At least they look like an equal opportunity outfit. I see some brown, some white, some black...
 
Bullshit.

Explain and document. I hear people say this crap all the time but it's simple folklore . There have always been predators and will always be predators. The internet has zero to do with this.

Maybe @Rexedgar will explain it to you.
 
One would think so; would you take the chance, especially after this report?
Omg, of course I would. To do otherwise would be letting emotion instead of intelect rule me. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning several times then having your 15 year old daughter disappear from a restroom at a crowded stadium.

This is why I don't carry a gun. I dont have them in my bedroom either. I keep them locked in the basement.
I go by numbers. I base my decisions on fact and rational thought.
If numbers showed easy access to my gun made me safer I'd carry one and have one in the bedroom loaded.

Heck my daughter was in college and there had just been a mall shooting in her area and she asked if she should go to the mall . I told her to go. The odds of being shot in a mall as horrible as it is should keep noone away. The odds are just wayyyyyyy to small.

Go to a frat party on a Friday night? Far more dangerous.
 
Omg, of course I would. To do otherwise would be letting emotion instead of intelect rule me. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning several times then having your 15 year old daughter disappear from a restroom at a crowded stadium.

This is why I don't carry a gun. I dont have them in my bedroom either. I keep them locked in the basement.
I go by numbers. I base my decisions on fact and rational thought.
If numbers showed easy access to my gun made me safer I'd carry one and have one in the bedroom loaded.

Heck my daughter was in college and there had just been a mall shooting in her area and she asked if she should go to the mall . I told her to go. The odds of being shot in a mall as horrible as it is should keep noone away. The odds are just wayyyyyyy to small.

Go to a frat party on a Friday night? Far more dangerous.
What’s the worst that could happen?

Right?

We are just going to have to disagree.
 
What’s the worst that could happen?

Right?

We are just going to have to disagree.
Disagree on what?

Facts are facts. Now we can disagree wether we choose to base on our decisions on them or not do but we can't deny them.
 
Ok, ill bite. How does the internet makes it "much easier for predators?"





One in five U.S. teenagers who regularly log on to the Internet say they have received an unwanted sexual solicitation via the Web. Solicitations were defined as requests to engage in sexual activities or sexual talk, or to give personal sexual information.
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25% of children have been exposed to unwanted pornographic material online.
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Only 33% of households with Internet access are actively protecting their children with filtering or blocking software.
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75% of children are willing to share personal information online about themselves and their family in exchange for goods and services.
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Only approximately 25% of children who encountered a sexual approach or solicitation told a parent or adult.
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One in 33 youth received an aggressive sexual solicitation in the past year. This means a predator asked a young person to meet somewhere, called a young person on the phone, and/or sent the young person correspondence, money, or gifts through the U.S. Postal Service.
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I grew up in a very different country. From the age of nine or ten, I was let loose in the morning with some lunch money and I wasn’t expected back until supper time. I was taught not to talk to strangers and there were a few times that I may have been “targeted,” but bluffed my way through them. I cannot imagine taking my teenage child to a sporting event and having them disappear from a restroom trip. I imagine in this day and age one cannot be too careful and with a female child you would keep them in sight or at least wait outside for them to do what comes naturally.
In reflection, I am glad that I am where I am age-wise. I don’t envy parents wits their tasks today.

Not wanting to take this thread off subject but Dutch and most European children are much more personally independent from a young age. I started cycling alone to school when I was about 9 or 10. In Japan children are also much more independent/allowed personal freedom than US children.

For US children that means they have way less opportunity to gain independence from a young age onward. When I was 13 I was allowed to go alone to a big concert from a radio station. I never felt unprepared to this. I was already 2 years into the secondary education and there I went by bike and there it was also a very independent environment. Kids being brought by their parents was a rare thing, kids came by bike even if they lived miles and miles from school. When I was 14 I went out for evenings to the chess club and often it was dark when I drove home.

I had a key to my house at an early age, going to friends, clubs, hobbies were always done by myself as my mother understood it was good for us. But I must say that Dutch roads are much safer for kids and youths but that was also fostered by school were we got lessons in riding our bikes and the traffic rules. We also had swimming lessons. Almost all children by age 9 knew how to swim very well, going to the swimming pool by myself with my 5 year old sister and I never once felt unsafe.

But this case with taking a girl over the state lines is totally unacceptable. If all is as it reads now I hope they get jailed for a very long time.
 
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