Ted Cruz you can love him or you can hate him, But he is no idiot

[Kobie]

I don't think you understand inter-party parliamentary parlor tricks. No further example of that needs be given than the absolutely DISGUSTING way Ron Paul was treated at the convention.

While ordinarily I find your constant GOP shilling repulsive, I'm going to agree with you here.

Paul did get a raw deal, and yes, interparty nonsense is awful. I was a registered Dem until 2006, and one reason I stopped being one was because of it.

Paul wasn't going to get the party nom; he didn't have the delegates. However, the GOP absolutely crapped on him at the convention.

 

[Sykes]

OMG, too funny.

 

[Kobie]

Palin reached hero status too but her squeaking during the election didn't make a bit of difference. Both Palin and Cruz are pandering to the same minority far right extremists. Thats not how you win general elections.

I can count on two hands and my own dick the number of people who achieved wingnut "hero status" in the last few years. Palin, Bachmann, Cruz, Rubio, Rick Scott, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Bobby Jindal, Ben Carson, Donald Trump ...

 

[Moot]

There is a BIG difference between Palin and Cruz, don't you think? For one, Palin was hammered mercilessly by the left from day one...and she suffered greatly for it. The left hasn't been able to make much of a dent in Cruz, though they've tried. Cruz has the ability to pander to the middle as well as the far right...and make himself believable. Now...I don't know if Cruz wants to run in 2016 or if the OP is correct about his aim being the 2014 Senate races, but I caution the left not to underestimate him.

Palin is prettier than Cruz, but thats about it. I really haven't seen anything that remarkable about Cruz's intelligence. His fillibustering and wanting to shut the government just makes him look like an idiot......


From Charles Krauthammer....


"....The objection I had to what Cruz was doing was that he took them down a cul-de-sac in terms of tactics, and he implied very unfairly, he didn't only imply, he basically said that everybody who didn't agree with his tactic, which is a cul-de-sac tactic, it leads nowhere, is somebody who betrays the opposition to Obamacare. John McCain and all the other people in the Republican party, in the House and in the Senate, fought tooth and nail in 2009.

I don't know where Ted Cruz was or what he was doing, but he arrived at the party late. If you are going to cast aspersions on the people who fought every step of the way, opposed every twist and turn of this Obamacare along the way, you ought to be a little bit humble about it and at least recognize their honesty and sincerity in a way that he did not...."

Krauthammer Responds To Mark Levin Criticism: Cruz Should "Be A Little Bit Humble" | RealClearPolitics


Krauthammer certainly doesn't seem to think that Cruz is that intelligent, either. A lot of Republicans don't think very highly of him and why should they when he's gone out of his way to insult them? But Democrats love Cruz because he's dividing and fracturing the GOP and I must say, that plan is going splendidly, don't you think? lol

 

[trfjr]

The GOP nominated Romney. Perry, Bachmann, Cain ... pretty much everyone in that clown car said they would repeal Obamacare, and those dickwipes couldn't make it out of the primaries.

and the GOP elite establishment are not conservatives not fiscal conservatives but big government Rinos just like McCain and Romney . like I mentioned on page one the problem with the republican party it has to many democrats in it
Bachmann and Santorum was to far right on social issues that the press made an issue in 2012 even though the economy and jobs was the number one concern for America. the press did Obama a favor by making it about social issues and did their best to keep away from the economy
Cain dropped out because his wife who as you can tell was very shy and seen what the press was going to do to her husband if he continued and asked him to drop out
Perry was unprepared and Gingrich had to much baggage it was a very poor field

 

[trfjr]

Palin is prettier than Cruz, but thats about it. I really haven't seen anything that remarkable about Cruz's intelligence. His fillibustering and wanting to shut the government just makes him look like an idiot......


From Charles Krauthammer....


"....The objection I had to what Cruz was doing was that he took them down a cul-de-sac in terms of tactics, and he implied very unfairly, he didn't only imply, he basically said that everybody who didn't agree with his tactic, which is a cul-de-sac tactic, it leads nowhere, is somebody who betrays the opposition to Obamacare. John McCain and all the other people in the Republican party, in the House and in the Senate, fought tooth and nail in 2009.

I don't know where Ted Cruz was or what he was doing, but he arrived at the party late. If you are going to cast aspersions on the people who fought every step of the way, opposed every twist and turn of this Obamacare along the way, you ought to be a little bit humble about it and at least recognize their honesty and sincerity in a way that he did not...."

Krauthammer Responds To Mark Levin Criticism: Cruz Should "Be A Little Bit Humble" | RealClearPolitics


Krauthammer certainly doesn't seem to think that Cruz is that intelligent, either. A lot of Republicans don't think very highly of Cruz and why should they when he's gone out of his way to insult them. But Democrats love him because he's dividing and fracturing the GOP and I must say, that plan is going splendidly, don't you think? lol

America is not going to remember about something that didn't happen a year from now they are going to remember what is going to be happening all year long and that will be the train wreck of Obama care and they will remember the senators that tried to stop it and the senators republicans and democrats who voted not to stop it

Cruz is playing a year long game of chess as you and the democrats are playing a quick game of checkers

 

[Moot]

I can count on two hands and my own dick the number of people who achieved wingnut "hero status" in the last few years. Palin, Bachmann, Cruz, Rubio, Rick Scott, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Bobby Jindal, Ben Carson, Donald Trump ...

Thats quite cast of characters.

 

[Moot]

America is not going to remember about something that didn't happen a year from now they are going to remember what is happening all year long and that will be the train wreck of Obama care and they will remember the senators that tried to stop it and the senators republicans and democrats who voted not to stop it

Cruz is playing a year long game of chess as you and the democrats are playing a quick game of checkers

Well, it wasn't the democrats that checked Cruz, it was his own side. Thats not exactly a winning chess strategy, imo.

In the 21 hours that Cruz fillabustered he hardly mentioned or made a good case against Obamacare at all. Instead he spent most of the time lambasting other Republicans which is a poor strategy if he's looking for support to achieve his goals. He also talked a lot about DC's lack of response to public opinion....while he hypocritically ignores the fact that it was public opinion that re-elected Obama over Romney's promise to repeal Obamacare.

Like I said, Cruz's tactics might play well with a minority core of the GOP but it won't work in a general election. Case in point, McCain lost because he picked Palin who proved to be a right wing extremist nut job.

If anything Cruz is making Rand Paul look sensible, which just shows how extreme and inexperienced a politician Cruz really is.

 

[Moot]

and the GOP elite establishment are not conservatives not fiscal conservatives but big government Rinos just like McCain and Romney . like I mentioned on page one the problem with the republican party it has to many democrats in it
Bachmann and Santorum was to far right on social issues that the press made an issue in 2012 even though the economy and jobs was the number one concern for America. the press did Obama a favor by making it about social issues and did their best to keep away from the economy
Cain dropped out because his wife who as you can tell was very shy and seen what the press was going to do to her husband if he continued and asked him to drop out
Perry was unprepared and Gingrich had to much baggage it was a very poor field

And yet, that was "the best" that the GOP had to offer. It doesn't look like it's going to be much better in 2016.

Basically what you pointed out was that Republican party doesn't have a middle. It's either RINO's or extremist nutjobs.

 

[Moot]

No, I actually think that is the point. Romney was the epitome of everything wrong with the GOP. Career politician, had the nom handed to him when he bowed out in 08, money coming out of his ears and anus, which was made in large part in the same fashion which was the cause of our current woes, a Big Biz/Big Gov RINO. You might recognize his counter in the Clinton's and Obama, Corporate Democrats. They're one and the same.

I don't think you understand inter-party parliamentary parlor tricks. No further example of that needs be given than the absolutely DISGUSTING way Ron Paul was treated at the convention. The majority was never really given a choice, they threw in one guy that no one was ready for at the time, a whole bunch of incompetents and has beens, with bones still flying out their mouths from lack of space in their closet, and the anointed one, Romney. The guy who had the credentials, the experience, and the record they let run off into 3rd Party exile...

the majority never had a chance...

As disgusting as Ron Paul was treated at the GOP convention....which he was....he never had a majority and he wasn't electable in a general election. He had even less favorabilty than Gingrich.....

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - 2012 Republican Presidential Nomination


I don't think you know how to read the polls.

 

[ChezC3]

As disgusting as Ron Paul was treated at the GOP convention....which he was....he never had a majority and he wasn't electable in a general election. He had even less favorabilty than Gingrich.....

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - 2012 Republican Presidential Nomination


I don't think you know how to read the polls.

I don't think you understand my post. No kidding? Not a snowball's chance in hell? Shock me Shock me....

The entire point, which you seemed to have missed and I have no clue as to why, I literally spelled it out for you, was that the gimmicks run by the Establishment keep the choices limited to who they want to see get elected. Paul was suppose to have delegates seated. That was suppose to happen. It didn't threw a whole disgusting display. It was done to let him, you, me, and everyone else know that nobody is getting even a crumb off the Establishment's table unless they give the OK. The majority, the people get told who they can vote for. Never mind your nonsense about if the majority wanted a candidate to run on a repeal platform they'd of had one, that's BS, plain and simple.

 

[ChezC3]

And you guys call everyone to the left of Eisenhower a communist, socialist, or whatever idiotic label you feel like throwing around that week.

Find out what Ike had his Ag Sec do, and see if you'd care to revise...

 

[ChezC3]

While ordinarily I find your constant GOP shilling repulsive, I'm going to agree with you here.

Paul did get a raw deal, and yes, interparty nonsense is awful. I was a registered Dem until 2006, and one reason I stopped being one was because of it.

Paul wasn't going to get the party nom; he didn't have the delegates. However, the GOP absolutely crapped on him at the convention.

a GOP shill who hasn't voted for a GOP candidate in 7 years...that's a first... and it seems you, like Moot, are stuck on that Dem fuzzy math, cuz you didn't put 2 and 2 together either I see...

 

[Mycroft]

Thats quite cast of characters.

I agree...quite a cast of characters. All targeted...all hammered...by the left and their lapdog media. Hmmm...makes one wonder if, perhaps, they were a threat to the left, eh?

 

[Moot]

I agree...quite a cast of characters. All targeted...all hammered...by the left and their lapdog media. Hmmm...makes one wonder if, perhaps, they were a threat to the left, eh?

Oh pleeze, that cast of characters were buffoons of their own making and were judged by their own words, accordingly. The rightwing certainly didn't stand up for them...instead they hid their heads in shame that those buffoons were actually one of their own.

 

[Moot]

I don't think you understand my post. No kidding? Not a snowball's chance in hell? Shock me Shock me....

The entire point, which you seemed to have missed and I have no clue as to why, I literally spelled it out for you, was that the gimmicks run by the Establishment keep the choices limited to who they want to see get elected. Paul was suppose to have delegates seated. That was suppose to happen. It didn't threw a whole disgusting display. It was done to let him, you, me, and everyone else know that nobody is getting even a crumb off the Establishment's table unless they give the OK. The majority, the people get told who they can vote for. Never mind your nonsense about if the majority wanted a candidate to run on a repeal platform they'd of had one, that's BS, plain and simple.

You act like Ron Paul actually had a chance to win the general election. With or without the seated delegates...he didn't have a snowball chance in hell.

 

[ChezC3]

You act like Ron Paul actually had a chance to win the general election. With or without the seated delegates...he didn't have a snowball chance in hell.

Nope. never did I say nor give the impression. As an example of inter-party gimmicks was the only reason he got brought up.

 

[Diving Mullah]

Ted Cruz you can love him or you can hate him, But he is no idiot that the media and the left try to paint him as
he knows exactly what he is doing. Sen. Cruz is playing a year long game of chess as the left and the media is playing a short game of checkers
Before I continue lets look at Sen. Cruz resume
graduated from Second Baptist High School in Houston as valedictorian
graduated cum laude from Princeton University
Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor
After graduating from Princeton, Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor. While at Harvard Law, Cruz was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, and executive editor of the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, and a founding editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review. Referring to Cruz's time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, "Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant." At Harvard Law, Cruz was a John M. Olin Fellow in Law and Economics.

His resume runs circles around the one the left triumphs as the smartest man in the room. Mr. Cruz is no idiot

so now we need to ask why is he doing what he is doing? he has to know he wont win he is not going to be able to get Obama care repealed.
Its all about 2014 not for him he isn't up for reelection even if he is he is from Texas a red state. its for the 5 seats the republicans need to take over the senate. also a chance to get rid of some of the senate rinos
we have 6 senate democrats that are in for an uphill battle to keep their senate seats
here they are with the increase of of health insurance premium rates for a 27 year old male for each of their states


Alaska: Mark Begich, D
health insurance rates increased by 117%

Arkansas: Mark Pryor, D
health insurance rates increased by 247%

Louisiana: Mary L. Landrieu, D
health insurance rates increased by 108%

North Carolina: Kay Hagan, D
health insurance rates increased by 267%

South Dakota: Tim Johnson,
health insurance rates increased by 158%

West Virginia: Jay Rockefeller, D
health insurance rates increased by ?

as you can see those senators are from red and purple states and they will have a lot of explaining to do with their constituents that they not just voted for Obama care the first time but also voted to keep it funded after they were aware of the cost to the people in their state

And for the Rino's what can I say this is what is wrong with the republican party we have to many democrats in it. what Cruz just did is smoke them out and they to will have some explaining to do when they are primaried coming in 2014 by more courageous and principled republicans that will do what they promised their voters what they would do. Ever republican ran on the platform of getting rid of Obama care

The good senator had a great opportunity to discuss why Obamacare is bad, what section of it is bad an how we can improve or make it better, but instead the great senator went on ever true and tried from comparing things to Nazis (a sure sign of I have nothing substantial to say so I am going to just babble) then he made great detour in lands of Dude where is my car land and ended his grand finale with Dr Suss (ham and egg story, which is Ironic after all, the story is about this asshole of a man who is afraid of trying something new, but eventually he does and learns that he likes it)....I think Dr Suss was thinking of Ted Cruz when he wrote that story!

Anyway after listening and reading his speech, one thing is very clear...The Cruz is ONE FREAKING MORON and NINCOMPOOP! Which would also explain why he is the poster child for Republicans, conservatives and Tea baggers!

Diving Mullah

 

[trfjr]

The good senator had a great opportunity to discuss why Obamacare is bad, what section of it is bad an how we can improve or make it better,

a crap sandwich is a crap sandwich
how can you make a crap sandwich better? would putting it one rye bread make it better? would putting mayo on it make it better would giving you a pickle with it make it better? hell no there is nothing you can do to a crap sandwich to make it better but to throw it in the trash

he did discuss hew bad Obama care is he read letter after letter from the public explaining why Obama care is bad he read union letters from Jimmy Hoffa telling you how bad it is. you know if you actually watched some of the 21 hour speech you would have known that instead of parroting MSNBC talking points

and stop trolling this forum claiming your a conservative just makes you look like a fool

 

[greengirl77]

Ted Cruz you can love him or you can hate him, But he is no idiot that the media and the left try to paint him as
he knows exactly what he is doing. Sen. Cruz is playing a year long game of chess as the left and the media is playing a short game of checkers
Before I continue lets look at Sen. Cruz resume
graduated from Second Baptist High School in Houston as valedictorian
graduated cum laude from Princeton University
Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor
After graduating from Princeton, Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor. While at Harvard Law, Cruz was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, and executive editor of the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, and a founding editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review. Referring to Cruz's time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, "Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant." At Harvard Law, Cruz was a John M. Olin Fellow in Law and Economics.

His resume runs circles around the one the left triumphs as the smartest man in the room. Mr. Cruz is no idiot

so now we need to ask why is he doing what he is doing? he has to know he wont win he is not going to be able to get Obama care repealed.
Its all about 2014 not for him he isn't up for reelection even if he is he is from Texas a red state. its for the 5 seats the republicans need to take over the senate. also a chance to get rid of some of the senate rinos
we have 6 senate democrats that are in for an uphill battle to keep their senate seats
here they are with the increase of of health insurance premium rates for a 27 year old male for each of their states


Alaska: Mark Begich, D
health insurance rates increased by 117%

Arkansas: Mark Pryor, D
health insurance rates increased by 247%

Louisiana: Mary L. Landrieu, D
health insurance rates increased by 108%

North Carolina: Kay Hagan, D
health insurance rates increased by 267%

South Dakota: Tim Johnson,
health insurance rates increased by 158%

West Virginia: Jay Rockefeller, D
health insurance rates increased by ?

as you can see those senators are from red and purple states and they will have a lot of explaining to do with their constituents that they not just voted for Obama care the first time but also voted to keep it funded after they were aware of the cost to the people in their state

And for the Rino's what can I say this is what is wrong with the republican party we have to many democrats in it. what Cruz just did is smoke them out and they to will have some explaining to do when they are primaried coming in 2014 by more courageous and principled republicans that will do what they promised their voters what they would do. Ever republican ran on the platform of getting rid of Obama care

Well you are giving a lot of credit to a man that doesn't understand the moral of green eggs and ham. Cruz is a stupid ****ing idiot.

 

[Threegoofs]

Ted Cruz you can love him or you can hate him, But he is no idiot that the media and the left try to paint him as
he knows exactly what he is doing. Sen. Cruz is playing a year long game of chess as the left and the media is playing a short game of checkers
Before I continue lets look at Sen. Cruz resume
graduated from Second Baptist High School in Houston as valedictorian
graduated cum laude from Princeton University
Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor
After graduating from Princeton, Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor. While at Harvard Law, Cruz was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, and executive editor of the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, and a founding editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review. Referring to Cruz's time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, "Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant." At Harvard Law, Cruz was a John M. Olin Fellow in Law and Economics.

His resume runs circles around the one the left triumphs as the smartest man in the room. Mr. Cruz is no idiot

Well, I think Obama graduated at the top of his high school class and graduated from Columbia with honors and Harvard Law with Honors, as well as being the editor of the law review. I'm not sure what Dershowitz said about Obama as a student, but he endorsed him for President.


So what you are saying is Cruz is about as smart as Obama.

 

[Mycroft]

Oh pleeze, that cast of characters were buffoons of their own making and were judged by their own words, accordingly. The rightwing certainly didn't stand up for them...instead they hid their heads in shame that those buffoons were actually one of their own.

For sure, not everyone on the right will follow any particular person...just as not everyone on the left thinks Obama is their savior...but the fact is, the left jumped in with both feet in vilifying, digging up dirt, making ridiculous statements and judgments - all against people they wouldn't be caught dead voting for. Face it, the left has turned political attack into an artform and have benefited greatly from it...except with Cruz. That must feel like a burr under your saddle, eh?

 

[Kobie]

For sure, not everyone on the right will follow any particular person...just as not everyone on the left thinks Obama is their savior...but the fact is, the left jumped in with both feet in vilifying, digging up dirt, making ridiculous statements and judgments - all against people they wouldn't be caught dead voting for. Face it, the left has turned political attack into an artform and have benefited greatly from it...except with Cruz. That must feel like a burr under your saddle, eh?

I love when people spout off stuff like this as if the right wing doesn't have its own breed of very successful smear merchants.

 

[Moot]

For sure, not everyone on the right will follow any particular person...just as not everyone on the left thinks Obama is their savior...but the fact is, the left jumped in with both feet in vilifying, digging up dirt, making ridiculous statements and judgments - all against people they wouldn't be caught dead voting for. Face it, the left has turned political attack into an artform and have benefited greatly from it...except with Cruz. That must feel like a burr under your saddle, eh?

lol I think it all started with Lee Atwater and now....the rightwing reaps what they sowed. Boo hoo if they can't take what they've dished out.

 

[Campbell]

Ted Cruz you can love him or you can hate him, But he is no idiot that the media and the left try to paint him as
he knows exactly what he is doing. Sen. Cruz is playing a year long game of chess as the left and the media is playing a short game of checkers
Before I continue lets look at Sen. Cruz resume
graduated from Second Baptist High School in Houston as valedictorian
graduated cum laude from Princeton University
Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor
After graduating from Princeton, Cruz attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna cum laude in 1995 with a Juris Doctor. While at Harvard Law, Cruz was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review, and executive editor of the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy, and a founding editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review. Referring to Cruz's time as a student at Harvard Law, Professor Alan Dershowitz said, "Cruz was off-the-charts brilliant." At Harvard Law, Cruz was a John M. Olin Fellow in Law and Economics.

His resume runs circles around the one the left triumphs as the smartest man in the room. Mr. Cruz is no idiot

so now we need to ask why is he doing what he is doing? he has to know he wont win he is not going to be able to get Obama care repealed.
Its all about 2014 not for him he isn't up for reelection even if he is he is from Texas a red state. its for the 5 seats the republicans need to take over the senate. also a chance to get rid of some of the senate rinos
we have 6 senate democrats that are in for an uphill battle to keep their senate seats
here they are with the increase of of health insurance premium rates for a 27 year old male for each of their states


Alaska: Mark Begich, D
health insurance rates increased by 117%

Arkansas: Mark Pryor, D
health insurance rates increased by 247%

Louisiana: Mary L. Landrieu, D
health insurance rates increased by 108%

North Carolina: Kay Hagan, D
health insurance rates increased by 267%

South Dakota: Tim Johnson,
health insurance rates increased by 158%

West Virginia: Jay Rockefeller, D
health insurance rates increased by ?

as you can see those senators are from red and purple states and they will have a lot of explaining to do with their constituents that they not just voted for Obama care the first time but also voted to keep it funded after they were aware of the cost to the people in their state

And for the Rino's what can I say this is what is wrong with the republican party we have to many democrats in it. what Cruz just did is smoke them out and they to will have some explaining to do when they are primaried coming in 2014 by more courageous and principled republicans that will do what they promised their voters what they would do. Ever republican ran on the platform of getting rid of Obama care

Good....run his ass against Hillary Clinton in 2016 and get your asses kicked worse than Romney's run.