Groucho
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This is article is clearly nothing but anti Tea Party movement trash. As far as I've seen, the Tea Party has been influental and has helped nominated favorites of the movement like Rand Paul. I think the Tea Party movement is helping the GOP nominate real conservatives who will shrink government. I almost think of it as RINO protectionteabagger Marco Rubio... group of angry teabaggers... nominates a teabagging... teabagger favorite... as teabagger Sharon Angle...
Florida: Cornyn and the NRSC endorse Governor Charlie Crist only to see the preferred candidate overtaken in the polls by teabagger Marco Rubio. Worse, Crist leaves the party and runs against Rubio, taking a ton of money Cornyn helped raise with him.
Utah: Cornyn and the NRSC endorse Senator Bob Bennett only to see a group of angry teabaggers throw him off the ballot.
Kentucky: Cornyn and the NRSC endorse Trey Grayson over teabagger Rand Paul. Paul then proceeds to win the nomination by a landslide.
Connecticut: Despite the well-positioned Congressman Rob Simmons, the party machinery in the state pushes him aside and nominates a teabagging, self-funding version of PT Barnum.
New York: Facing an incumbent, appointed, somewhat unknown Democratic Senator who is below 50 percent in approval, Cornyn still couldn't persuade former Gov. George Pataki--or anyone else of significance for that matter--to take her on.
Washington: Failing to attract a fresh face, Cornyn and the NSRC have thrown themselves all over damaged goods Dino Rossi. He is still facing the Palin-endorsed teabagger favorite, Clint Didier.
Nevada: Cornyn threw his support behind Sue "Chicken Barter" Lowden only to see her turn her campaign into a national laughing stock. She's now tanking in the polls as teabagger Sharon Angle gains momentum.[/I]
But overall, it seems to me that the tea party people are not helping the GOP at all. Will the chance of making great gains in the fall die out?
My prediction is that the GOP will gain some seats (as the party out of power always does) but not anything as huge as they are predicting. They certainly won't take the House or Senate back.
Yes, I know Daily Kos is an opinion site, but the comments are appropriate.
But overall, it seems to me that the tea party people are not helping the GOP at all. Will the chance of making great gains in the fall die out?
True enough, and good points made (although I don't think the GOP will take the house).
The original article was mostly about how the GOP establishment hadn't won much lately. I kind of took that to say "Well, how does this affect their chances in the fall?" I probably should have made two separate threads.
It still seems to me that these tea party candidates who have won the nominations over the established ones will have a harder time winning in the fall (except in those states where the Democrats never had a chance anyway, like Utah, as you noted)
Will the tea party help or hurt the GOP in the fall?
This is article is clearly nothing but anti Tea Party movement trash. As far as I've seen, the Tea Party has been influental and has helped nominated favorites of the movement like Rand Paul. I think the Tea Party movement is helping the GOP nominate real conservatives who will shrink government. I almost think of it as RINO protection
Yeah even the GOP's hierarchy is backing down their rhetoric a little. House GOP's deputy whip, Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), who recruits for the NRCC was predicting a House takeover with 45 seats back in January. He has since regained consciousness.
House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said it would be a "steep climb" for the GOP to win back control of the House this fall.
Maybe it has something to do with NRCC backed candidates not doing very well, topped by Tim Burns expected victory turned crushing defeat in a special election for John Murtha's old seat.
And Rand Paul will most likely win the general.
Based on what? His anti-civil rights and anti-minimum wage and anti-any-gov't stances? :roll:
The tea party has done a great job of holding Republicans accountable to their long standing message of fiscal responsibility and smaller government. For years the GOP preached that and then practiced the exact opposite. It's no wonder establishment Republicans are being rejected - their record is terrible when compared to the ideals they run on.
The rejection of these establishment candidates isn't pushing the Republican Party further to the right, rather its returning the Republican Party to the positions it has always claimed to hold.
When you start calling Bob Bennett and Charlie Crist RINO's you have tacked too far to the right. If the Repubs had chased the middle of the roaders instead of the far right, they might actually have a shot at the house this year. Rush has led the party astray.
Rush has not led the party anywhere; he is not the party leader.
Bob Bennet was not a RINO. Charle Crist is the very definition of one. The GOP does have a shot at the House this year, and it is precisely because of the reasons in the post you quoted. It isn't about the "far right", it's about being held accountable for their own principles in ways that, for example, Charlie Crist has not. Rush has not led the party anywhere; he is not the party leader.
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