Tea Party: 4 in 10 are Dems, Independents, Survey Says

[Councilman]

Time ofr the Obamanites to wake up and smell what they have been shoveling.

Clearly they are making up lies about people they thought they could count as their own.

All the claims of name calling were lies.

All the claims of being spit on were lies.

All the threats come from the Leftists.

Tea Party: 4 in 10 are Dems, Independents, Survey Says - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

More than four in 10 self-described members of the Tea Party also identify as either Independents or Democrats, according to a recently released, comprehensive survey.

Yet the Tea Party's priority appears to be fiscal conservatism, and the group by large margins trusts Republicans in Congress over Democrats to solve the country's problems.

In a collection of three national surveys conducted by the Republican-leaning Winston Group, 57 percent of Tea Party members called themselves Republicans while 28 percent said they were Independents, and 13 percent said they were Democrats. Two-thirds of the group identified as conservative, but 26 percent said they are moderate and 8 percent called themselves liberal.

Seventeen percent of people surveyed said they were "part of the Tea Party movement."

While a sizable portion of tea partiers identify as Independent or Democrat, they overwhelmingly disapprove of President Obama. In the February survey conducted by Winston, 81 percent of Tea Party members said they disapprove of the job Mr. Obama is doing as president, compared with 44 percent of people overall who said they disapproved.

 

[Gipper]

I do find that funny. If you voted for Obama, this is just your tax dollars at work - no pun intended.

If anything, it's a testament to the uninformed American worker. If you had a triple digit IQ, you could see this coming from a mile away when the primaries were being held.

You need a license to drive, but anyone over 18 can vote.

 

[Deuce]

13% of them identified themselves as Democrats and you're making the claim that ALL of the violence comes from the left based on that?

I've got a tiger repelling rock to sell you. If you need proof that it works, look around for tigers.

 

[Groucho]

From the link:

In a collection of three national surveys conducted by the Republican-leaning Winston Group, 57 percent of Tea Party members called themselves Republicans while 28 percent said they were Independents, and 13 percent said they were Democrats. Two-thirds of the group identified as conservative, but 26 percent said they are moderate and 8 percent called themselves liberal.

So basically just over 1 in 10 were democrats, but you lumped all the people who called themselves independent in there as well so to make it look not so much of a Republican-conservative sort of group.

 

[Captain America]

We all pretty much know the deal.

It's a GOP rouse. Grass roots my ass.

If, the teaparty was truly and independant grassroots oriented, it would crumble the GOP's chances of election just like Perot did.

Yet, you see Palin. McCain, the usual suspects in their midst.

It's like, "Duh!" :roll:

Do the math.

Follow the money.

Yet, some Americans swallow the illusion, hook, line and sinker.

And I hear one is born every minute.

 

[texmaster]

We all pretty much know the deal.

It's a GOP rouse. Grass roots my ass.

If, the teaparty was truly and independant grassroots oriented, it would crumble the GOP's chances of election just like Perot did.

Yet, you see Palin. McCain, the usual suspects in their midst.

It's like, "Duh!" :roll:

Do the math.

Follow the money.

Yet, some Americans swallow the illusion, hook, line and sinker.

And I hear one is born every minute.

You're assuming that but you don't know that. And this is politics. Its the perception that counts.

 

[Captain America]

You're assuming that but you don't know that. And this is politics. Its the perception that counts.

OK. I'll play make believe with ya Tex.

Let's pretend that the TP is a legitimate party running their own ticket.

They get their candidate on the ballot.

So, the TP's take 5% of the democrat vote, (hell, take 10,) and only 20% of the republican vote.

The election results would be something like this.

40% democrat
30% republican vote
30% teaparty vote

Now, convince me WHY McCain or Palin would be sucking up to this? Why were those republican politician's standing on their balcony and cheering them on as if they were on their side if they weren't? Why would FOXNews give them as much positive air-time as humanly possible without tipping their cards? For 30% of the vote? Because they are leaving the GOP? They enjoy losing? Why?

I mean, it's not rocket science here. It don't take a PHD to figure this stuff out.

By now, you guys should have learned that the good Cap's crystal ball is usually 98% accurate. :rofl

What the TP is, is a place the GOP want's to put their more extreme supporters and set them aside until the election. It is a way to seperate themselves from the whackiness that has been associated to their party as of late and costing them votes.

In the end, the TP will say, "Vote GOP or DIE." And the sheep will follow. It's all part of some kind of a GOP plan. Believe dat. It's just an effort to pretend to seperate themselves from the whackos. They are an embarassing lot.

 

[Groucho]

The GOP wants to get the tea party guys all riled up but they are really scared that they'll run on their own.

Remember that upstate NY special election that was won by the democrat because the conservative vote was split? You may see a lot of that if the GOP can't bring them under their tent.

Any great gains the GOP may be expecting in the fall may be minimized by third party vote splitting.

 

[Deuce]

The GOP wants to get the tea party guys all riled up but they are really scared that they'll run on their own.

Remember that upstate NY special election that was won by the democrat because the conservative vote was split? You may see a lot of that if the GOP can't bring them under their tent.

Any great gains the GOP may be expecting in the fall may be minimized by third party vote splitting.

It's definitely a balancing act the GOP has to run. Play to the tea party but not getting sucked into some of its more radical fringes and also making sure it doesn't become its own entity and split your voting base. If the tea party runs a 3rd party presidential candidate in 2012 it's pretty much a guaranteed Obama win.

 

[texmaster]

OK. I'll play make believe with ya Tex.

Ok but I'm the groom.

Let's pretend that the TP is a legitimate party running their own ticket.

Scary but ok

They get their candidate on the ballot.

So, the TP's take 5% of the democrat vote, (hell, take 10,) and only 20% of the republican vote.

The election results would be something like this.

40% democrat
30% republican vote
30% teaparty vote

Now, convince me WHY McCain or Palin would be sucking up to this? Why were those republican politician's standing on their balcony and cheering them on as if they were on their side if they weren't? Why would FOXNews give them as much positive air-time as humanly possible without tipping their cards? For 30% of the vote? Because they are leaving the GOP? They enjoy losing? Why?

Well McCain because he isn't a conservative. That part is easy. The second part is that the independents are most likely calling themselves independent because they've had it with both sides and considering the sheer number of republicans, its a good bet those independents would more likely vote republican.

Its exactly the same with the green party for the lefties (thats you )

The problem is attacking the TP with this poll despite the leanings to someone who isn't paying attention and really isn't satisfied with either party isn't a smart move by the libs because again its a matter of perception. Someone who doesn't pay attention they simply see a large number of independents in that poll. They don't analyze it like we do.

I mean, it's not rocket science here. It don't take a PHD to figure this stuff out.

By now, you guys should have learned that the good Cap's crystal ball is usually 98% accurate. :rofl

Are you that topless fortune teller in Mallrats? If so, when is your next show?

What the TP is, is a place the GOP want's to put their more extreme supporters and set them aside until the election. It is a way to seperate themselves from the whackiness that has been associated to their party as of late and costing them votes.In the end, the TP will say, "Vote GOP or DIE." And the sheep will follow. It's all part of some kind of a GOP plan. Believe dat. It's just an effort to pretend to seperate themselves from the whackos. They are an embarassing lot.

I don't agree at all. The TPers have some loons just like any party. You guys have the waked out soldier haters of Cindy Sheehan but that doesn't mean all libs are that way either.

The TP right now is trying to take back the GOP from the left leaning hierarchy. If that frightens you, then goooooood. :rofl

 

[Dav]

If, the teaparty was truly and independant grassroots oriented, it would crumble the GOP's chances of election just like Perot did.

You are confusing a political movement with a political party.

 

[Moon]

It's definitely a balancing act the GOP has to run. Play to the tea party but not getting sucked into some of its more radical fringes and also making sure it doesn't become its own entity and split your voting base. If the tea party runs a 3rd party presidential candidate in 2012 it's pretty much a guaranteed Obama win.

Probably, but 2016 would be a whole different ballgame.

 

[WillRockwell]

Time ofr the Obamanites to wake up and smell what they have been shoveling.

Clearly they are making up lies about people they thought they could count as their own.

All the claims of name calling were lies.

All the claims of being spit on were lies.

All the threats come from the Leftists.

Prove they were lies...there are witnesses who say otherwise.
If the tea sippers are so outraged by Obama's "shoveling", why did they condone the massive lies and outrages caused by the Bush administration? Here's why.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Prove they were lies...there are witnesses who say otherwise.
If the tea sippers are so outraged by Obama's "shoveling", why did they condone the massive lies and outrages caused by the Bush administration? Here's why.

Huh? please articulate.

 

[Gipper]

Play to the tea party but not getting sucked into some of its more radical fringes and also making sure it doesn't become its own entity and split your voting base.

I don't think the "radical fringes" even make up a fraction of the protestors though. It's just the unity of people who believe they pay too much in taxes, which is understandable. If the GOP simply goes back to the platform of fiscal responsibility, which they've always claimed to do but really dropped the ball in recent years *cough dubya cough*, they can get back damn near all of the votes. You'd have to almost try to not get the votes, as they ultimately represent the disenfranchised voter who has seen the bravado of Democrats trying to pass their pseudo-socialist agenda despite completely abandoning the other party and a majority of America.

And let's face it - as long as the two-party winner takes all system is in effect, too many people will realize that they're throwing away their vote with a third party candidate. I want libertarianism to grow and flourish, but I also know that it starts on a local and regional level. What Perot did couldn't even be close to mimicked, and he didn't get a single electoral college vote.

 

[Taylor]

We all pretty much know the deal.

It's a GOP rouse. Grass roots my ass.

If, the teaparty was truly and independant grassroots oriented, it would crumble the GOP's chances of election just like Perot did.

Yet, you see Palin. McCain, the usual suspects in their midst.

It's like, "Duh!" :roll:

Do the math.

Follow the money.

Yet, some Americans swallow the illusion, hook, line and sinker.

And I hear one is born every minute.

Thanks, Prof

 

[Captain America]

Ok but I'm the groom.



Scary but ok



Well McCain because he isn't a conservative. That part is easy. The second part is that the independents are most likely calling themselves independent because they've had it with both sides and considering the sheer number of republicans, its a good bet those independents would more likely vote republican.

Its exactly the same with the green party for the lefties (thats you )

The problem is attacking the TP with this poll despite the leanings to someone who isn't paying attention and really isn't satisfied with either party isn't a smart move by the libs because again its a matter of perception. Someone who doesn't pay attention they simply see a large number of independents in that poll. They don't analyze it like we do.



Are you that topless fortune teller in Mallrats? If so, when is your next show?



I don't agree at all. The TPers have some loons just like any party. You guys have the waked out soldier haters of Cindy Sheehan but that doesn't mean all libs are that way either.

The TP right now is trying to take back the GOP from the left leaning hierarchy. If that frightens you, then goooooood. :rofl

You were doing pretty good there Tex until you went into the "you're a lefty Cindy Sheehan BS."

I admit that I am to the left of the approxamate 12% (+/-) of the rightwing whacko's out there, but to call me a "lefty," well, another perfect example of what I alluded to, as to why the GOP and sensible conservatives, needs to seperate themselves from the whackos that insist on defining what a "true" :roll: conservative is or is not.

It's costs us votes and it gets America into the mess were into now.

PS... I'll give ya backstage passes to my next show at the mall. :mrgreen:

 

[Indy]

How you got that 4 in 10 are Democrats from what you yourself posted I don't know. Perhaps you should try reading your own source one more time?

 

[texmaster]

You were doing pretty good there Tex until you went into the "you're a lefty Cindy Sheehan BS."I admit that I am to the left of the approxamate 12% (+/-) of the rightwing whacko's out there, but to call me a "lefty," well, another perfect example of what I alluded to, as to why the GOP and sensible conservatives, needs to seperate themselves from the whackos that insist on defining what a "true" :roll: conservative is or is not.

I didn't say you were a Cindy Sheehan supporter. I said your side has the Cindy Sheehan left just like we have far right nuts on our side.

It's costs us votes and it gets America into the mess were into now.

Not sure where you are going with this.

PS... I'll give ya backstage passes to my next show at the mall. :mrgreen:

Excellent

 

[texmaster]

How you got that 4 in 10 are Democrats from what you yourself posted I don't know. Perhaps you should try reading your own source one more time?

Actually its you that needs to read it more carefully. Its dems and independents just like the title.

 

[Indy]

Actually its you that needs to read it more carefully. Its dems and independents just like the title.

Touche. I misread where you had your commas. I read it as:
Tea Party: 4 in 10 are Dems, Independent Survey Says.

Which if you think about it, is just as misleading as what your title says in the first place because the bulk of the tea party "independents" are long time GOP supporters who are temporarily registered as independent. So its really like saying:

Tea Party: 4 in 10 are Dems, or people who used to vote GOP but are now pissed, survey says.

 

[Councilman]

And the beat goes on as Leftist Liberals from Obama and his henchmen on down to the Obamamedia continue to lie about what the Tea Partiers are all about and stand for, and Tea Party ranks are growing and the Left will now have to increase the lies and misrepresentations they are becoming infamous for.

The Liberals new motto has become if at first you don't succeed lie lie again.

At every turn the Leftists have threatened, lied about, & accused Tea Partiers of being hateful, spitting on people, and calling (D) Rep. Lewis a nigger and none of it ever happened.

Now polls show that the Tea Partiers are gaining strength and the Liberals had better back off. Just like the attacks they tried to use to hurt Fox News backfired and only served to boost ratings the same thing is now happening in this movement.

FOXNews.com - Tea Party Going Mainstream? Polls Suggest Movement Gaining in Popularity
A Rasmussen poll released Monday found more Americans identify with the Tea Party groups than with President Obama.

According to the survey, 48 percent of voters said the average Tea Party activist is more aligned with their views on major issues than the president. Forty-four percent said Obama's views are closer to theirs.

The poll of 1,033 adults, conducted March 26-28, found 28 percent of people call themselves Tea Party supporters, while 26 percent call themselves opponents.

?Conservatives? Are Single-Largest Ideological Group
Conservatives” Are Single-Largest Ideological Group
Percentage of “liberals” higher this decade than in early ’90s
by Lydia Saad

PRINCETON, NJ -- Thus far in 2009, 40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004. The 21% calling themselves liberal is in line with findings throughout this decade, but is up from the 1990s.

Conservatives need to stop being the silent majority and speak up and put these whiny Liberals and their Socialist/Marxist leaders and ideas on the trash heap of history where they belong.

Figuratively only that is.