Take this seriously. Coronavirus is about to change your life for a while

[Erod]

With widespread testing. As with the flu.

I have posted this elsewhere, but it is worth iterating here: 37% of the population gets the annual flu shot, and still we have between 5% and 10% of the population getting it every year. with about a 0.14% mortality rate (20-60,000 deaths/year). COVID-19 is more virulent (2+% RO - infection rate) and more deadly (how much so is not yet known).

We're at the early stage of this. It could, like SARS (COVID-19 is actually a SARS-related syndrome), which killed around 10% of the 8,098 confirmed cases of the respiratory illness, be relatively contained. It could be persistent, but deadly, like MERS, which has killed around 34% of the roughly 2,500 confirmed cases since it was first reported in 2012 in Saudi Arabia, and a few more every year. But it is already far more widespread than either of its relatives, with over 113,000 cases, in 113 countries - truly worldwide. "The coronavirus outbreak is more severe than the 2009 outbreak of H1N1, or swine flu. That illness infected between 700 million and 1.4 billion people worldwide but only had a mortality rate of 0.02%." How the coronavirus compares to SARS, swine flu, Zika, and other epidemics (Business Insider).

At this point, we don't know. We may never know the full scale. But, we do know that it is spreading, fast, that it is deadlier than the annual flu, and that appropriate prevention techniques are necessary.

We do not know that it is deadlier than the annual flu. It's killing elderly people who had flu shots who probably had less than a year left anyway.

In about 4-6 weeks, it will be gone from the US. So far, it's not killing healthy people.

China already seems to have it under control. Only 20 new cases in the past 24 hours. It's declining rapidly.

We need to stop with the hysteria.

 

[Erod]

And non of those are as infectious as Covid-19...

Sent from my Honor 8X

China had only 20 new cases in the past 24 hours. That's not very infectious or pandemic like.

 

[Lursa]

China had only 20 new cases in the past 24 hours. That's not very infectious or pandemic like.

Another person that apparently doesnt know what 'pandemic' means :roll:

 

[NWRatCon]

Another person that apparently doesnt know what 'pandemic' means :roll:

Yup, the sand is now full. Some people are now listening to the echoing from their rectums and expecting the rest of us to heed their flatulence*.

*the accumulation of gas in the alimentary canal; inflated or pretentious speech or writing; pomposity.

 

[Higgins86]

China had only 20 new cases in the past 24 hours. That's not very infectious or pandemic like.

Seriously where do you get off questioning the WHO?

 

[Lord of Planar]

Seriously where do you get off questioning the WHO?

 

[Decypher]

Lol all the armchair medical experts are here. Congrats on turning a health crisis into another stage for the WWE political show. Meanwhile in Europe, sporting events are being canceled and schools are being closed because public health is more important that whichever red hat or blue hat sits in the round office.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Where did he call it a hoax again please?

You must have given the wrong time index.

Where did you learn English? Do you know what quote marks are? The words he spoke that I put in the quote marks is what that time-mark references. As for the 'democratic hoax' part he tweets or says that just about everyday. Don't you ever get tired of selling stupid?

 

[Atomic Kid]

China had only 20 new cases in the past 24 hours. That's not very infectious or pandemic like.

:doh :doh :doh

 

[ataraxia]

And yet this flu season, 137 Children alone died due to the flu in America. But Democrats pay no attention to a bit of that.

We can contain the flu virus as a potential epidemic because we have vaccination for it. It also has a lower mortality rate.

Is your recommendation to just blow this whole thing off?

 

[Lord of Planar]

Where did you learn English? Do you know what quote marks are? The words he spoke that I put in the quote marks is what that time-mark references. As for the 'democratic hoax' part he tweets or says that just about everyday. Don't you ever get tired of selling stupid?

But he never calls the virus a hoax, which is the common theme from your side.

 

[HenryChinaski]

It's not eco-friendly, you lefties should just scrubbing you ass out in the grass. :lol:

I blame all you paranoid prepper, survivalists stocking your bunkers.

 

[ataraxia]

Per the map showing where the virus is, it seems like it is the Democrats who need to panic over Coronavirus.

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S. | CDC

So it’s OK as if Americans die off, as long as it’s in politically more Democrat areas?

 

[Atomic Kid]

But he never calls the virus a hoax, which is the common theme from your side.

I didn't say he did. He calls it a "democratic' or the democrats "new hoax". Try to keep up.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I didn't say he did. He calls it a "democratic' or the democrats "new hoax". Try to keep up.

Blame others on your side for making that claim.

 

[Slartibartfast]

But he never calls the virus a hoax, which is the common theme from your side.

 

[Lord of Planar]

"This is their new hoax." He was speaking of their actions. Not the virus.

 

[JasperL]

600,000 Americans die every year from heart disease
45,000 of suicide
80,000 of diabietes
50,000 of the flu

Etc, etc, etc.

20 elderly people have died of coronavirus

Spine up a bit, folks.

The extraordinary efforts to slow or limit the spread are to keep COVID 19 numbers well below those. Do you think we should abandon those efforts or what? I'm never sure what the action step is after we acknowledge other things are, at this very early point in the pandemic lifecycle, more deadly than CV19.

 

[The AntiDonald]

I believe nothing from CNN.

That's pure stupidity. Go to CDC.GOV and you will read the same thing. You seem to be a Trump supporter. Have fun with that and please stay within 20 feet of me and my family.

 

[Slartibartfast]

"This is their new hoax." He was speaking of their actions. Not the virus.

exactly. it tends to be a conservative mischaracterization of the liberal position to think of anyone calling the virus itself as a hoax. No liberal has actually said that, but instead call out the idea that this is being politicized for political gain to be the hoax, and in that they are correct.

 

[Erod]

The extraordinary efforts to slow or limit the spread are to keep COVID 19 numbers well below those. Do you think we should abandon those efforts or what? I'm never sure what the action step is after we acknowledge other things are, at this very early point in the pandemic lifecycle, more deadly than CV19.

For the US, this isn't the early point. It's getting late. Warm weather will kill this off soon, especially for the southern states.

Europe is in far worse shape.

 

[The AntiDonald]

Except there is no evidence coronavirus is 34 times deadlier.

That statistic is purposefully misleading. That is only based on confirmed cases through testing. Flu numbers are through estimates

You don't yet know that. Here in the US, to date, 2000 +- have been tested out of 325M. You don't know anything except for what Hannity is telling you.

 

[Erod]

The extraordinary efforts to slow or limit the spread are to keep COVID 19 numbers well below those. Do you think we should abandon those efforts or what? I'm never sure what the action step is after we acknowledge other things are, at this very early point in the pandemic lifecycle, more deadly than CV19.

For the US, this isn't the early point. It's getting late. Warm weather will kill this off soon, especially for the southern states.

Europe is in far worse shape.

 

[sjmay]

Not a very good visual, because by the area of each color, the infected appear to be about equal.

The issue in that visual isn't the amount of infected, it's the capacity of the health care to deal with a certain amount at any given time.

 

[Erod]

You don't yet know that. Here in the US, to date, 2000 +- have been tested out of 325M. You don't know anything except for what Hannity is telling you.

So you want to just start testing people randomly? Is that your solution? Then what?

Most people that get exposed and get this will never know they had it.