Surprising Jump in Tax Revenues Is Curbing Deficit

[Blitz]

I've siad already that it can't be proven!!! They system under this administration is rigged. For those who say things like prove water its wet, I would like to take the barrel of Gator Aid and or water and dump it all over you!!! Think of it this way, we all know terrorist would like to use nukes on us correct? However, we haven't had one go off on our soil from an enemy or terrorist yet. There is no proof that that they can or can not accomplish this, but, if to have proof means having one to go off in a major city is what you need, then you have some real problems to work out.:hitsfan:

 

[Goobieman]

Tax Revenues are not cumming from normal Americans. They are comming from most of the wealthy corporations.

You'd think the liberals would rejoice at this.

They admin leaves out Iraq War cost and future Pork projects that they know what the American people don't know.

Leaves them out of what?

Oh, by the way, you can't prove in any court of law that these unemployment numbers are wrong. Can you say RIGGED!!!

But the unemployment numbers that the Clinton administration put out were golden. Right?

Think of me as a person simliar who defected from the NSA.

I think of you as what you so clearly are -- a bigoted, partisan hack.

 

[Gill]

I've siad already that it can't be proven!!!

So, what you are saying is that you pulled these accusations out of your a$$.

 

[Goobieman]

I've siad already that it can't be proven!!!

And so, you really havsnt anything of any value to say, do you?

 

[Navy Pride]

If you want to spread the blame around, go ahead, but the facts are the facts.

1. Bush diverted funding away from shoring up the levees=Katrina disaster

2. Bush did not heed warnings of 8-6-01 PDB warning of Bin Laden attacks, warnings of Bin Laden's danger from Clinton Admin=9/11

3. Bush invaded Iraq as misguided response to 9/11

4. In all of the above, there is rampant corruption, war/hurricane profiteering and no GOP fiscal oversight.

Hence the fiscal mess.

If you want to make a valid argument I will listen but just to put out Dean's demoicratic left wing talking points won't work...........There is enough blame to go around for both parties.............

I notice you did not respond to any of my rebuttal points........

The only issue you might have a half way valid point on is Iraq but your party alomost unanimously voted to take Saddam out so that won't even hold water.......

 

[Navy Pride]

NPR has a good take on the story today:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5546830

Why don't you cite Michael Moore or moveon.org? They are just as creditable.......

 

[Blitz]

I personally think another CILVIL WAR will be nice so we can surgically wipe the smirks off your faces.::flame: :flames: :blastem: :gunner:

 

[Gill]

I personally think another CILVIL WAR will be nice so we can surgically wipe the smirks off your faces.::flame: :flames: :blastem: :gunner:

You might be happier over at the Dummy Underground or Daily Kos. You would have plenty of sympathetic friends there that share your hatred of the US.

 

[Goobieman]

I personally think another CILVIL WAR will be nice so we can surgically wipe the smirks off your faces.::flame: :flames: :blastem: :gunner:

"We"?

The conservatives all have guns and the ability to use them -- what are "you" going to come after us with?

Foul language and immaturity?

 

[Blitz]

Not the U.S. Don't try to :spin: it. Only many the people that purposely refuse to look at reality and who's judgments and decisions literally put this country onto dangerous paths. You screw up too many lives, and you don't know what the hell your doing!! YOU CAN'T GOVERN!!!!!!!:smash:

 

[hipsterdufus]

Why don't you cite Michael Moore or moveon.org? They are just as creditable.......

WOW! You equate NPR with Michael Moore & moveon? For real? If so, you are so far gone....

 

[Iriemon]

But I am sure that cutting taxes would boost tax revenues, however the debate would be how big tax cuts and where, and when... there are after all limits going both ways.

Why are you sure of this? Cutting taxes does not boost tax revenues. If taxes were cut to 1% are you claiming that would boost tax revenues? Of course not.

 

[Navy Pride]

WOW! You equate NPR with Michael Moore & moveon? For real? If so, you are so far gone....

I use to watch NPR but can't anymore its full of left wing personalities likt Bill Moyers..........

 

[Navy Pride]

Why are you sure of this? Cutting taxes does not boost tax revenues. If taxes were cut to 1% are you claiming that would boost tax revenues? Of course not.

I don't think anyone is advocating cutting taxes to 1% ...........That said it is irrefutable that cutting taxes does not increase revenures.......JFK, and Reagan proved that and now Bush is doing it.......

 

[Goobieman]

I don't think anyone is advocating cutting taxes to 1%

Welcome to Iriemon's strawman factory. :roll:

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

True.

And Bush doesn't get a pat on the back for increasing the national debt either, which this thread is trying to do.

Umm no because Bush didn't increase taxes in order to increase tax-revenue.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

The unfortunate truth is our national debt has gotten worse under so called conservative watches.

Reagan,

You're ****ing joking right? Do you know who Jimmy Carter is?

 

[Iriemon]

When the deficits went down under Clinton, Democrats were overjoyed. When they do down under Bush, its meaningless?

Must be a (D) v (R) thing.

1. It's great deficits are going down, but its only through phony accounting that they can say the deficits are going down, in fact Govt is borrowing more.

2. They are only going "down" relatively speaking. Even afte going "down" they are still 1/2 trillion worse than they were in 2000 -- hardly something to be overjoyed about.

 

[ProudAmerican]

1. It's great deficits are going down, but its only through phony accounting that they can say the deficits are going down, in fact Govt is borrowing more.

nonsense.

2. They are only going "down" relatively speaking. Even afte going "down" they are still 1/2 trillion worse than they were in 2000 -- hardly something to be overjoyed about.

LOL. tis true they are still worse than in 2000. but they are better than they were last year. and will likely be better next year than this year.

you have to start somewhere.

just admit if it were a democrat that made these very same strides, your response would be much different.

thats what partisans do.

 

[Iriemon]

Originally Posted by Iriemon
Why are you sure of this? Cutting taxes does not boost tax revenues. If taxes were cut to 1% are you claiming that would boost tax revenues? Of course not.

I don't think anyone is advocating cutting taxes to 1% ...........That said it is irrefutable that cutting taxes does not increase revenures.......JFK, and Reagan proved that and now Bush is doing it.......

I think you meant to say "irrefutable that cutting taxes does increase revenures". Which I expect you to say despite being shown data to the opposite on numerous ocassions.

But if it is "irrefutable that cutting taxes increases revenues" then why not cut taxes to 1%? Then we'd have tons of revenues, right?

 

[Iriemon]

Welcome to Iriemon's strawman factory. :roll:

Strawman? Do you disagree or agree that cutting taxes to 1% would reduce revenues?

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

I think you meant to say "irrefutable that cutting taxes does increase revenures". Which I expect you to say despite being shown data to the opposite on numerous ocassions.

But if it is "irrefutable that cutting taxes increases revenues" then why not cut taxes to 1%? Then we'd have tons of revenues, right?

If it's true that increasing taxes increases revenue why not raise taxes to 99% the same logic (or lack therof) applies.

 

[Iriemon]

nonsense.

Mybe you can explain to us why the Govt is borrowing more money this year than last if the deficits are getting better.

09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
06/30/2005 $7,836,495,788,085.86
Increase: $457 billion

09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
06/30/2006 $8,420,041,947,892.19
Increase: $487

http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/~www/opdpen.cgi

LOL. tis true they are still worse than in 2000. but they are better than they were last year. and will likely be better next year than this year.

you have to start somewhere.

just admit if it were a democrat that made these very same strides, your response would be much different.

thats what partisans do.

LMFAO! Oh yeah, if a Dem inherited a govt with a $236 billion surplus (using the Republican's funny accounting) and was bragging about how much of an improvement it was that the deficit was going to "only" be $300 billion 6 years later, I'm sure you'd be right there singing the praise! Ha ha ha

 

[ProudAmerican]

Strawman? Do you disagree or agree that cutting taxes to 1% would reduce revenues?

I believe the strawman part comes in where any normal person realizes cutting the to 1% isnt exactly the same thing that the current administration did.

By giving corporations and the "rich" more of their.....yes, THEIR.....money, they have in turn invested more.

Im not an economist....but I am a thinker.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

LMFAO! Oh yeah, if a Dem inherited a govt with a $236 billion surplus (\

and a 6-trillion dollar debt.