Supreme Court turns away a 2nd Amendment challenge to blue-state bans on assault weapons

[Hamish Howl]

I GET THAT. Yet firearms are restricted. The divide comes from people who want less restriction or none, or those who want more. If you REALLY believe that an semi-auto is included in a right to bear arms, then I am sure you would be ok with my owning a bazooka or even a tank. Yet the law wouldn't allow me to, so my "constitutional rights" are being violated!!

The amendment says "the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed."

Restrictions infringe.

 

[Hamish Howl]

There is no right to smoke marijuana.

Pursuit of happiness?

 

[JMB1911A1]

Pursuit of happiness?

Declaration of Independence is not a governing document.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Declaration of Independence is not a governing document.

True, true.

However, then the only mention of prohibition got amended back out. I don't see a difference between weed and booze as far as prohibition goes, except that weed is less dangerous than booze.

 

[Radical Red Radish]

Your fortune cookie says: "Learn about measures to reduce suicide and stop making infantile comments"

Now just hold on there, dude. You're focused on one form of violent suicide. Suicide by poisoning oneself (alcohol, nicotine, opiates, cocaine, LSD, ketamine, THC, or just too goddamn much caffeine) is still harming oneself. The big difference is that suicide using firearms is swift, usually painless, and decisive. If anything, America needs wider ownership of traditional American weapons that are easier to build, maintain, and upgrade. This is not just about guns. If Democrats valued America's sovereignty, national identity, and unique traditional culture any more than the GOP does, they'd be passing out the means to build weapons much more dangerous than handguns from county fair booths. I'm a lefty, too, but wake up and smell the coffee: guns are not inherently problematic. The problem is that guns and other weapons are unequally distributed.

 

[Radical Red Radish]

I GET THAT. Yet firearms are restricted. The divide comes from people who want less restriction or none, or those who want more. If you REALLY believe that an semi-auto is included in a right to bear arms, then I am sure you would be ok with my owning a bazooka or even a tank. Yet the law wouldn't allow me to, so my "constitutional rights" are being violated!!

Bazookas require a special permit that you have to prove you're a politically reliable fanatic to get. In Texas.

If you're willing to build the tank from a kit, they're legal, provided the barrel on the turret is rifled. In Texas.

Texas is a surprisingly quiet state, in part because they have privately owned A-10's. Everybody there knows to be tactful.

 

[Spock]

Now just hold on there, dude. You're focused on one form of violent suicide. Suicide by poisoning oneself (alcohol, nicotine, opiates, cocaine, LSD, ketamine, THC, or just too goddamn much caffeine) is still harming oneself. The big difference is that suicide using firearms is swift, usually painless, and decisive. If anything, America needs wider ownership of traditional American weapons that are easier to build, maintain, and upgrade. This is not just about guns. If Democrats valued America's sovereignty, national identity, and unique traditional culture any more than the GOP does, they'd be passing out the means to build weapons much more dangerous than handguns from county fair booths. I'm a lefty, too, but wake up and smell the coffee: guns are not inherently problematic. The problem is that guns and other weapons are unequally distributed.

Radical ridiculous rubbish.
The primary problem with firearm suicide is that there is no room for regret. Many failed suicide attempters eventually regret the self-harm effort.
The destructive efficiency of firearms leaves little room for treatment or survival.

 

[aociswundumho]

The primary problem with firearm suicide is that there is no room for regret.

Do you support banning tall buildings for the same reason?

 

[RF667799]

Radical ridiculous rubbish.
The primary problem with firearm suicide is that there is no room for regret. Many failed suicide attempters eventually regret the self-harm effort.
The destructive efficiency of firearms leaves little room for treatment or survival.

Testing the load bearing capacity of garage rafters with a rope and one's neck isn't far behind in lethality.

Should we heavily restrict rope access, require safe storage, etc.? Or are rope violence levels acceptable to you?

 

[Spock]

Do you support banning tall buildings for the same reason?

Do you oppose guard rails, protective measures against falling or adjuncts such as suicide nets below bridges?

 

[Spock]

Testing the load bearing capacity of garage rafters with a rope and one's neck isn't far behind in lethality.

Should we heavily restrict rope access, require safe storage, etc.? Or are rope violence levels acceptable to you?

Still lost in your false equivalence reasoning apparently. Sorry for your personal struggles with that issue.

 

[RF667799]

Still lost in your false equivalence reasoning apparently. Sorry for your personal struggles with that issue.

Sorry you're at a loss to respond to what I wrote again.

 

[Spock]

Sorry you're at a loss to respond to what I wrote again.

Your repetitious and unimaginative posts represent a failure to read, understand, and accept multiple prior discussions on those very topics and must be considered an attempt at infantile petulance.

 

[RF667799]

Your repetitious and unimaginative posts represent a failure to read, understand, and accept multiple prior discussions on those very topics and must be considered an attempt at infantile petulance.

Translation: I am unable to refute or credibly respond to what you wrote, so I'll settle for talking about you personally.

 

[Spock]

Translation: I am unable to refute or credibly respond to what you wrote, so I'll settle for talking about you personally.

Your failure to understand after multiple exchanges can only be attributed to your failure to read, process, examine, and assimilate the information.

 

[rahl]

Your repetitious and unimaginative posts represent a failure to read, understand, and accept multiple prior discussions on those very topics and must be considered an attempt at infantile petulance.

 

[RF667799]

Your failure to understand after multiple exchanges can only be attributed to your failure to read, process, examine, and assimilate the information.

Translation: I'm still coming up empty, and have no choice but to personally attack RF667799 if I want to look like I'm still in the game.

 

[Spock]

Translation: I'm still coming up empty, and have no choice but to personally attack RF667799 if I want to look like I'm still in the game.

No whining. You have no excuse for not reading and understanding multiple explanations on this subject. Search "false equivalence" if you really have the slightest interest in responses to your repetitious nonsense.

 

[RF667799]

No whining. You have no excuse for not reading and understanding multiple explanations on this subject. Search "false equivalence" if you really have the slightest interest in responses to your repetitious nonsense.

Out of gas but trying to push that shit a little further down the road.

 

[Spock]

Out of gas but trying to push that shit a little further down the road.

Learn to use the search function on this forum if you really have the slightest interest in your questions about false equivalence fallacy.

 

[RF667799]

Learn to use the search function on this forum if you really have the slightest interest in your questions about false equivalence fallacy.

Still having trouble finding his own words to use in a discussion....

Oh well. When someone has retreated into sniping at me personally, I figure they at least are slowed in posting their crippled, dishonest, incoherent "arguments".

 

[CLAX1911]

Radical ridiculous rubbish.

From the anti-constitutionalist.

The primary problem with firearm suicide is that there is no room for regret.

No it's that there's suicide.

Many failed suicide attempters eventually regret the self-harm effort.

The destructive efficiency of firearms leaves little room for treatment or survival.

So if you're suicidal seek help.

 

[Radical Red Radish]

Learn to use the search function on this forum if you really have the slightest interest in your questions about false equivalence fallacy.

It's not about equivalency, it's about parallel logic. You said something laughable, and we're pointing out why it's silly.

 

[Spock]

It's not about equivalency, it's about parallel logic. You said something laughable, and we're pointing out why it's silly.

Silly would be to equate firearms with a rope, swimming pool, or car.... which seems to be your inclination.

 

[Bullseye]

"Today, the AR-15 and its variants are one of the most popular and widely owned firearms in the Nation," was one of the arguments in the article.
Hmmmmmmmm, marijuana use is likely MORE popular and widely used, yet many Red states want to keep that from being legal.

Either you believe in State's rights or you don't. Can't have it both ways.

actually, that's almost exactly the federal system the founders desired.