Support the troops, bring them home!

[The Prophet]

Our brave men and women need to be greeted with hugs and handshakes, and not with rpgs and pipe bombs. They need to be brought back home to where they are loved, opposed to where they are hated. The troops know the deal, that's why they support Ron Paul!

 

[Thunder]

Our brave men and women need to be greeted with hugs and handshakes, and not with rpgs and pipe bombs. They need to be brought back home to where they are loved, opposed to where they are hated. The troops know the deal, that's why they support Ron Paul!

evidence for your claim that a majority of American troops oevrsease support Ron Paul?

 

[The Prophet]

evidence for your claim that a majority of American troops oevrsease support Ron Paul?

Hahaha, you're kidding right? Did you even bother to watch the video that I posted?

 

[Thunder]

Hahaha, you're kidding right? Did you even bother to watch the video that I posted?

did they do a poll of all over-seas troops?

 

[Thunder]

I just watched the video.

It was lovely propaganda.

However, it provided no facts whatsoever, to suggest that even a large minority of US troops overseas support Ron Paul for President.

 

[The Prophet]

Just look at the donations. Ron Paul is a military veteran who receives overwhelmingly more money from them then any other candidate, even more then Obama! If by donating to him isn't a red flag that they support him, I don't know what to tell ya.

 

[apdst]

Our brave men and women need to be greeted with hugs and handshakes, and not with rpgs and pipe bombs. They need to be brought back home to where they are loved, opposed to where they are hated. The troops know the deal, that's why they support Ron Paul!

I'm having a hard time that a majority of our troops, especially the ones that are actually on the ground, are ready to give up and leave, with the mission incomplete.

You calling our boys cowards?

 

[Thunder]

Just look at the donations. Ron Paul is a military veteran who receives overwhelmingly more money from them then any other candidate, even more then Obama! If by donating to him isn't a red flag that they support him, I don't know what to tell ya.

has there been a poll of US troops overseas?

no? then these donations are meaningless.

there is NO evidence that even a large minority of overseas American troops support Ron Paul for President.

 

[The Prophet]

I'm having a hard time that a majority of our troops, especially the ones that are actually on the ground, are ready to give up and leave, with the mission incomplete.

You calling our boys cowards?

Is refusing to kill people the definition of a coward? People are war fatigued, and Dr. Paul's message didn't resonate in 2008, but it sure has gained momentum now! The troops job is to protect and defend the country from all enemies foreign and domestic. Our enemies aren't 6,000 miles away in mud huts, they are right here, the people who profit from sending our men and women off to fight for them!

 

[Thunder]

....Our enemies aren't 6,000 miles away in mud huts,...

Osama bin Laden didn't live in a mudhut.

 

[The Prophet]

has there been a poll of US troops overseas?

no? then these donations are meaningless.

there is NO evidence that even a large minority of overseas American troops support Ron Paul for President.

Military support for the republican candidates » The Truth @ The Spin Factor

 

[TNAR]

I'm having a hard time that a majority of our troops, especially the ones that are actually on the ground, are ready to give up and leave, with the mission incomplete.

You calling our boys cowards?

In my experience, a vast number (cannot say whether it was a majority since I never actually polled them) disagree with the wars overseas and want the U.S. to pull out immediately. The mission is a farce and never needed to be started in the first place.

Those of "our boys" who understand the idiocy of the wars we are involved in are not cowards, they are wise and prudent. Those who want to stick around and shoot camels and random people are either ignorant of the facts or are criminals as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Thunder]

Military support for the republican candidates » The Truth @ The Spin Factor

this is the exact same info, again.

got a poll?

 

[apdst]

In my experience, a vast number (cannot say whether it was a majority since I never actually polled them) disagree with the wars overseas and want the U.S. to pull out immediately. The mission is a farce and never needed to be started in the first place.

Those of "our boys" who understand the idiocy of the wars we are involved in are not cowards, they are wise and prudent. Those who want to stick around and shoot camels and random people are either ignorant of the facts or are criminals as far as I'm concerned.

Well, it was my experience, that agree, or disagree our troops are more interested in getting the job done, than anything else.

The, "they want to come home", argument is the stupidist I've ever heard. Of course they want to come home! :rofl

 

[apdst]

this is the exact same info, again.

got a poll?

If you're suggesting that a large majority of the military doesn't support Republicans, then you're wrong, because that's a fact.

 

[TNAR]

Well, it was my experience, that agree, or disagree our troops are more interested in getting the job done, than anything else.

I think the facts speak otherwise. Why did so many people commit suicide rather than go on another deployment if they wanted to "get the job done" so badly? Why are so many people getting out of the military?

The troops want to come home because they volunteered to defend America not gallivant around the globe chasing ghosts and murdering people to achieve some mysterious political goal. I would think you would understand this since you are advertising yourself as a member of the military.

 

[Thunder]

If you're suggesting that a large majority of the military doesn't support Republicans, then you're wrong, because that's a fact.

you clearly have not read a single post of mine in this thread.

 

[MarineTpartier]

I think the facts speak otherwise. Why did so many people commit suicide rather than go on another deployment if they wanted to "get the job done" so badly? Why are so many people getting out of the military?

The troops want to come home because they volunteered to defend America not gallivant around the globe chasing ghosts and murdering people to achieve some mysterious political goal. I would think you would understand this since you are advertising yourself as a member of the military.

I take offense to your very presence on this forum. If you want to check my profile and see what my profession is, you can see why. First off, "so many people" are not committing suicide. The military suicide rate is roughly on par with the civilian sector. Also, "why are so many getting out of the military?" We have no issue with retention. The Marine Corps set a goal in 2006 to plus up to 210,000 from 185,000 by 2008. We met that goal before the end of 2006. Last time I checked, I wasn't galavanting around Afghanistan when I was there a few months. I was killing terrorists before they had a chance to come here and attack people like you. Lastly, murder is a strong word. Might want to recant that.

 

[TNAR]

I take offense to your very presence on this forum.

You don't know a thing about me. Ignorance is a common feature of military men and women so I won't hold it against you.

First off, "so many people" are not committing suicide. The military suicide rate is roughly on par with the civilian sector.

Suicides trigger stand-down
High suicide rate
Despite efforts, troop suicide rate up
Suicide rates more than doubled

I said nothing of comparing it to the civilian rate, I simply said so many people. The fact is that the suicide rate has increased dramatically since the onset of the recent wars in the Middle East.

Also, "why are so many getting out of the military?" We have no issue with retention.

Notice I said “military” not Marines. Recruitment is actually up lately if I remember correctly (most attribute this to a poor economy) but retention is certainly lower than in years past. The CBO did a study (which I cannot find for the life of me) which pointed to the low recruit numbers (prior to 2008 crash) and subsequent lowering of minimum qualifications. They additionally pointed to low retention numbers which required an increase in benefits to reduce the rate of release.

I was killing terrorists before they had a chance to come here and attack people like you.

If you really think you’re killing terrorists in Iraq or Afghanistan then you really need to do some research into the reasons why the U.S. invaded in the first place and what is taking place now. If you are in fact killing the so-called terrorists over there then you damn well know that they have zero capability to travel to the United States to kill anyone. You are killing shepherds and farmers.

Lastly, murder is a strong word. Might want to recant that.

I spent 10 ½ years in the Army and took part in more dishonest and unconscionable **** than I care to admit. I am now trying to make amends for my part by educating those who are still involved and those who blindly support anyone who wears a uniform. The U.S. is not incapable of producing murderers, rapists, thieves, and nutjobs.

 

[ecofarm]

Those who want to stick around and shoot camels and random people are either ignorant of the facts or are criminals as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, it's their job to shoot random people. Great, another fake-do-gooder whos entire world is based on anti-war propaganda, hysteria and nonsense.

Are you Muslim?

I spent 10 ½ years in the Army and took part in more dishonest and unconscionable **** than I care to admit. I am now trying to make amends for my part by educating those who are still involved and those who blindly support anyone who wears a uniform.

I assume by this you mean "fighting against other Muslims". Care to explain?

The U.S. is not incapable of producing murderers, rapists, thieves, and nutjobs.

Strawman.

 

[misterman]

Just look at the donations. Ron Paul is a military veteran who receives overwhelmingly more money from them then any other candidate, even more then Obama! If by donating to him isn't a red flag that they support him, I don't know what to tell ya.

Why is Ron Paul a money-whore to a special interest?

(Damn that was easy).

 

[Wiggen]

I just watched the video.

It was lovely propaganda.

However, it provided no facts whatsoever, to suggest that even a large minority of US troops overseas support Ron Paul for President.

Difficult to imagine any black military personnel - and there are a lot of them - supporting the Anti-Civil Rights Ron Paul. Hell, if it was up to him, the armed forces would still be segregated and blacks would be hauling the garbage.

 

[Thunder]

still waiting for that poll of overseas troops to see which candidates they support.

 

[TNAR]

Yes, it's their job to shoot random people. Great, another fake-do-gooder whos entire world is based on anti-war propaganda, hysteria and nonsense.

I never said it was their job to shoot random people but feel free to continue your pathetic attempt at intelligent conversation. My comments are based on personal experience.

I assume by this you mean "fighting against other Muslims". Care to explain?

Your assumptions appear to be based on mere suspicion and personal bias and are completely unfounded. Americans tend to support anyone who is or was in the military solely on the basis of "serving out country". This philosophy is dangerous and ignorant of the facts. Military members are simply a cross section of society and, therefore, includes murderers, rapists, thieves, bigots, racists, and anything else you can think of. To blindly worship troops because they went overseas to kill a bunch of sheep herders is not patriotic in my book.

Furthermore, your apparent hostility towards Muslims is typical of those who are ignorant of the events happening overseas.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

still waiting for that poll of overseas troops to see which candidates they support.

This article is from 2008 - to determine troop-candidacy support it, too, went by donations from said individuals:

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