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Where are the anti Iran war protests. You know rule of law and all that?

How is the rule of law related to antiwar protests?
 
Our involvement in the war in Iran and most other places are illegal per treaties and our Constitution.
Can you explain why you're saying it's illegal?
Do you know which treaties or parts of the Constitution you're talking about?
 
Where’s Putin, especially as his friends keep getting blown up? Can we a get a comment from his apologist spokesman, @Tigerace117? 😆
The forces of “democracy and freedom” keep flailing away, waging yet another war of aggression and discrediting their cause in the eyes of people across the globe.....and no amount of squealing about Putin can change that ;)
 
Can you explain why you're saying it's illegal?
Do you know which treaties or parts of the Constitution you're talking about?
UN charter

Chapter 1 article 2

Article 2​

The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.

  1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
  2. All Members, in order to ensure to all of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfill in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter.
  3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.
  4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
  5. All Members shall give the United Nations every assistance in any action it takes in accordance with the present Charter, and shall refrain from giving assistance to any state against which the United Nations is taking preventive or enforcement action.
  6. The Organization shall ensure that states which are not Members of the United Nations act in accordance with these Principles so far as may be necessary for the maintenance of international peace and security.
  7. Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter Vll.
Without UNSC authorization you cannot use force or interfere in the politics and affairs of another nation. You know, sovereignty?
 
The forces of “democracy and freedom” keep flailing away, waging yet another war of aggression and discrediting their cause in the eyes of people across the globe.....and no amount of squealing about Putin can change that ;)

“Flailing away”? Is that what you call it? In case you didn’t notice, your Uncle Vlad stood around with his hands in his pockets as he lost at least 20 more friends the first day of Israel’s attack. What kind of “ally” is that?

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“Flailing away”? Is that what you call it? In case you didn’t notice, your Uncle Vlad stood around with his hands in his pockets as he lost at least 20 more friends the first day of Israel’s attack. What kind of “ally” is that?

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America is planning to send Afghans who risked their lives to help it back to face Taliban firing squads. The US has zero room to claim anyone else is a bad ally.
 
UN charter

Chapter 1 article 2

Article 2​

The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.

  1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.
  2. All Members, in order to ensure to all of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfill in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter.
  3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.
  4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
  5. All Members shall give the United Nations every assistance in any action it takes in accordance with the present Charter, and shall refrain from giving assistance to any state against which the United Nations is taking preventive or enforcement action.
  6. The Organization shall ensure that states which are not Members of the United Nations act in accordance with these Principles so far as may be necessary for the maintenance of international peace and security.
  7. Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter Vll.
Without UNSC authorization you cannot use force or interfere in the politics and affairs of another nation. You know, sovereignty?

First wouldn't that mean you oppose Putin's war. Do you oppose Putins' war?

Second, that's the UN charter. Are you sure you've consistently supported "All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered."

Are you sure you agree with this and you've consistently posted this, or is this a snap decision claim just to own the libs?

How about convincing both Bibi and Putz to lay down their arms. Do you want Iran to develop nuclear weapons? Do you want Russia to occupy Ukraine? Who is obedient to the UN charter as you've presented it? Did the UN declare the invasion of Ukraine to be a violation of international law? Isn't there more to the UN charter than you're aware of?

We're not going to protest in support of either Iran or Putin because we know who our enemies are, and there's more to the UN charter that accepts these realities, as we can see in the UN condemnation of Putins' invasions.
 
First wouldn't that mean you oppose Putin's war. Do you oppose Putins' war?

Second, that's the UN charter. Are you sure you've consistently supported "All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered."

Are you sure you agree with this and you've consistently posted this, or is this a snap decision claim just to own the libs?

How about convincing both Bibi and Putz to lay down their arms. Do you want Iran to develop nuclear weapons? Do you want Russia to occupy Ukraine? Who is obedient to the UN charter as you've presented it? Did the UN declare the invasion of Ukraine to be a violation of international law? Isn't there more to the UN charter than you're aware of?

We're not going to protest in support of either Iran or Putin because we know who our enemies are, and there's more to the UN charter that accepts these realities, as we can see in the UN condemnation of Putins' invasions.
I oppose all wars except those of actual self defense which has nothing to do with what I posted.

Israel just attacked Iran unprovoked. Illegal. We support it, also illegal.

Our covert and overt interference in nations all over the planet also illegal. Has been for decades. So when people rally and act like Trump is doing something new and unusual, he isn't. The protests are incredibly hypocritical and short sighted.
 
I oppose all wars except those of actual self defense which has nothing to do with what I posted.
I'm glad to hear you support Ukraine.


Israel just attacked Iran unprovoked. Illegal. We support it, also illegal.

..

Ok.

Our covert and overt interference in nations all over the planet also illegal. Has been for decades. So when people rally and act like Trump is doing something new and unusual, he isn't. The protests are incredibly hypocritical and short sighted.

Ok. But what's hypocritical about supporting Ukraine and hating Iran?
 
I oppose all wars except those of actual self defense which has nothing to do with what I posted.

Israel just attacked Iran unprovoked. Illegal. We support it, also illegal.

Our covert and overt interference in nations all over the planet also illegal. Has been for decades. So when people rally and act like Trump is doing something new and unusual, he isn't. The protests are incredibly hypocritical and short sighted.
What? Israel has been provoked by Iran for decades. Try to catch up.
 
What? Israel has been provoked by Iran for decades. Try to catch up.
It has? When did Iran covertly or overtly assassinate Israeli officials? Responding in kind to Israels attacks on Iran is self defense.

Does Israel have UNSC approval to unilaterally attack Iran or anyone for that matter? No it does not.
 
Without UNSC authorization you cannot use force or interfere in the politics and affairs of another nation. You know, sovereignty?

Iran can’t, on the one hand, thumb its nose at the “post-WWII rules-based international order” by supporting terrorist proxies who blow up embassies; assassinate diplomats; deliberately, systematically, and methodically target civilians; and otherwise commit war crimes and crimes against humanity, BUT then seek to invoke international law while hiding under the UN’s skirt. They’ve attempted to use Western institutions and values in the holy war they’ve waged against the “Great Satan,” the “Little Satan,” and their allies since the Islamic Republic was founded 46 years ago. We shouldn’t accept that, and we should never accept them getting nuclear weapons. The only thing these people understand is force. Fortunately, we have a long memory:

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DSS Physical Security Specialist recalls the 1983 bombing of the U.S. Marine Corps barracks in Beirut
 
Iran can’t, on the one hand, thumb its nose at the “post-WWII rules-based international order” by supporting terrorist proxies who blow up embassies; assassinate diplomats; deliberately, systematically, and methodically target civilians; and otherwise commit war crimes and crimes against humanity, BUT then seek to invoke international law while hiding under the UN’s skirt. They’ve attempted to use Western institutions and values in the holy war they’ve waged against the “Great Satan,” the “Little Satan,” and their allies since the Islamic Republic was founded 46 years ago. We shouldn’t accept that, and we should never accept them getting nuclear weapons. The only thing these people understand is force. Fortunately, we have a long memory.
Ahh but we act like proxy wars are ok. What is good for us and Israel is ok for everyone else right?
 
Ahh but we act like proxy wars are ok. What is good for us and Israel is ok for everyone else right?
I know you're busy, but I still don't see the hypocrisy in supporting Ukraine and hating Iran.
 
It has? When did Iran covertly or overtly assassinate Israeli officials? Responding in kind to Israels attacks on Iran is self defense.
You said "unprovoked". Israel's actions certainly were provoked, and had been for decades.
Does Israel have UNSC approval to unilaterally attack Iran or anyone for that matter? No it does not.
What does UNSC approval have to do with anything? Were you somehow under the misimpression that the UNSC approved of Iranian missiles being launched into Israel from Lebanon or Yemen? I'd be interested in seeing that approval.
 
It has? When did Iran covertly or overtly assassinate Israeli officials? Responding in kind to Israels attacks on Iran is self defense.

Israel is legitimately targeting Iran’s military, in particular its nuclear program. Iran is firing ballistic missiles and drones at civilians. Israel is way past the point of depending on the UN to ensure its security. The UN is useless, except when it comes to passing resolutions condemning Israel.

Does Israel have UNSC approval to unilaterally attack Iran or anyone for that matter? No it does not.

Did Iran have UNSC approval to train and arm terrorist proxies attacking Israel and other countries, including the United States? No, it did not. Iran has been a destabilizing influence in the Middle East for almost five decades. It’s autocratic dictatorship can go to hell, just like so many others who’ve preceded it.
 
Ahh but we act like proxy wars are ok. What is good for us and Israel is ok for everyone else right?

Israel is defending itself. The Islamic Republic, by supporting murderous terrorists like Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and Vladimir Putin, is just evil. Iranian drones are targeting and killing Ukrainian civilians. Why? Houthis are attacking International shipping in the Red Sea (or, more accurately, they were until Trump bombed the shit out of them after they repeatedly attacked our military). Why? Did Iran get UN Security Counsel authorization to support terrorists?
 
Free masks, rocks, concrete blocks, frozen water bottles, high explosive fireworks hidden in the right places, Antifa brothers and sisters will be there.....it should be a hoot, come one come all.

Bring your own hotdogs for the cookout on police vehicles and local businesses. Time to release the pent-up anger and frustrations, let loose and feel the power of mob-rule and the power of intimidation.

Just pretend you're anti-fascist and fight against the Big Orange Man we've created in your mind. We have you in our power and control, don't worry as you'll be safe, as we have your back.

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.....this is what's really gonna happen. Of course, all said in jest of our radical leftists.
Funny how poorly this post aged.
 
Israel is defending itself. The Islamic Republic, by supporting murderous terrorists like Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and Vladimir Putin, is just evil. Iranian drones are targeting and killing Ukrainian civilians. Why? Houthis are attacking International shipping in the Red Sea (or, more accurately, they were until Trump bombed the shit out of them after they repeatedly attacked our military). Why? Did Iran get UN Security Counsel authorization to support terrorists?
I don’t think using the UN as a vetting source is good in reference to Israel who gives no ****s what the UN says.
 
You said "unprovoked". Israel's actions certainly were provoked, and had been for decades.

What does UNSC approval have to do with anything? Were you somehow under the misimpression that the UNSC approved of Iranian missiles being launched into Israel from Lebanon or Yemen? I'd be interested in seeing that approval.
Self defense
 
I don’t think using the UN as a vetting source is good in reference to Israel who gives no ****s what the UN says.
Indeed
Israel is legitimately targeting Iran’s military, in particular its nuclear program. Iran is firing ballistic missiles and drones at civilians. Israel is way past the point of depending on the UN to ensure its security. The UN is useless, except when it comes to passing resolutions condemning Israel.



Did Iran have UNSC approval to train and arm terrorist proxies attacking Israel and other countries, including the United States? No, it did not. Iran has been a destabilizing influence in the Middle East for almost five decades. It’s autocratic dictatorship can go to hell, just like so many others who’ve preceded it.
So has Israel
 
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