Stone indicted

[GDViking]

All in all it's just another brick in the wall.

I wish I knew how to upload pics, I would post one of judge your honor from Rodger Waters masterpiece the Wall...

 

[GDViking]

And CNN just happened to have a film crew on scene :lol:

Arresting a federal SUSPECT isn't abuse of power. Having 29 law enforcement officers , FBI agents and SWAT, arresting a 66 year old man with no history of violence and not being charged with a violent crime. Yes my friend that is an abuse of power. My son is on the North Tarrant County SWAT team and they have a protocol to use the SWAT team. History of violence 3 points, drugs 3 points, owns guns 3 points , etc. if you don't reach 25 points SWAT can't be deployed. I doubt Stone represented enough of a danger to justify a SWAT team.



Sorry his actions belie your opinion.



Meh



He is a SUSPECT not a criminal at this point. It will be interesting to see what a judge and jury thinks. Perhaps he will be guilty perhaps not.

At least the RNC didn't conspire with Russians like the DNC did to get the Russian Dossier. :lol:

A traitor with Russian mob protection 100 points...

 

[poweRob]

Well, we'll see. It looks like Stone wants his day in court. Meanwhile, I want to know: Did Mueller authorize the circus this morning and tip off CNN? If he did, why? If he didn't, then who did, and why? If they're using their positions and knowledge for political reasons then that's a problem. Maybe it was designed to rattle a few branches and shake some acorns loose, which I can see. Then again, maybe you can take CNN's word for it that they were just shrewd and lucky whereas everyone else was snoozing at the wheel. I can't.

Well of course you don't care about Roger Stone being a criminal and getting arrested. You care about controlling the narrative with a conspiracy theory instead. Roger is ****ed and he did it all to himself. His compadres including Corsi will be testifying against him. You keep peddling this meaningless conspiracy like the other trumpettes. The rest of us will be here living in reality land watching the administrations' lies finally destroy itself.

 

[GDViking]

The Democrats and liberals on this board are rooting for a man to serve a life sentence in prison. Do they realize the FBI and the Mueller investigation are a bunch of thugs? Harassing these people forcing them to hire lawyers, shut down their bank accounts....

I thought this was America, not China.

Your right, in China all these traitors would have already been executed...

 

[SLC]

A traitor with Russian mob protection 100 points...

If Stone was so "dangerous" why did the FBI allow a CNN film crew on site. In dangerous situations film crews are moved to a safe perimeter. The CNN film crew was very close. Certainly within handgun or long gun range. Of course the FBI knew Stone wasn't a risk. This was just an attempt to intimidate Stone. Its not going to work.

 

[azgreg]

All in all it's just another brick in the wall.

I wish I knew how to upload pics, I would post one of judge your honor from Rodger Waters masterpiece the Wall...

It's easy.

In a reply just click the image button.



If it's a pic on your computer select "from computer" then "choose file" then "upload files".



If it from the net select copy img address then select "from URL" then paste url in box then un check the "Retrieve remote file and reference locally" box.

 

[poweRob]

If Stone was so "dangerous" why did the FBI allow a CNN film crew on site. In dangerous situations film crews are moved to a safe perimeter. The CNN film crew was very close. Certainly within handgun or long gun range. Of course the FBI knew Stone wasn't a risk. This was just an attempt to intimidate Stone. Its not going to work.

Oh stop it with your conspiracy theory. You are THOROUGHLY embarrassing yourself. So bad.

 

[SLC]

The Democrats and liberals on this board are rooting for a man to serve a life sentence in prison. Do they realize the FBI and the Mueller investigation are a bunch of thugs? Harassing these people forcing them to hire lawyers, shut down their bank accounts....

I thought this was America, not China.

I agree 100%

 

[poweRob]

The Democrats and liberals on this board are rooting for a man to serve a life sentence in prison. Do they realize the FBI and the Mueller investigation are a bunch of thugs? Harassing these people forcing them to hire lawyers, shut down their bank accounts....

I thought this was America, not China.

Have you even ever been to America?

 

[azgreg]

There has been zero evidence that Mueller's team tipped off CNN. CNN reported that Mueller's Grand Jury was convened on Thursday which is rare. The last time they did that there indictments the following day or two. It was believed for quite awhile that Stone's time was up soon so seeing the Grand Jury convene all they had to do was stake out his place. Normal journalist stuff.

 

[SLC]

Oh stop it with your conspiracy theory. You are THOROUGHLY embarrassing yourself. So bad.

You stop it. :lol: Explain to me why you think Stone is so dangerous that they needed 29 FBI agents to arrest him and exactly how CNN just happened to be on scene.

 

[beefheart]

Stone is way beyond ****ed...

Former Stone associates indicate willingness to testify against him

Two former associates of Roger Stone indicated Friday that they are willing to testify against him in court.

Jerome Corsi and Randy Credico, who have appeared before the grand jury impaneled by special counsel Robert Mueller and provided documents contradicting Stone's congressional testimony, signaled they would serve as witnesses if the case goes to trial.​

He's not going to be able to lie his way out of this like he has in the past.

That is what happens when you are a prick and you treat others like crap. He deserves all the pain he is gonna get.

 

[beefheart]

You stop it. :lol: Explain to me why you think Stone is so dangerous that they needed 29 FBI agents to arrest him and exactly how CNN just happened to be on scene.

Explain to us why you are trying to deflect with a meaningless thing like that.

 

[SLC]

There has been zero evidence that Mueller's team tipped off CNN. CNN reported that Mueller's Grand Jury was convened on Thursday which is rare. The last time they did that there indictments the following day or two. It was believed for quite awhile that Stone's time was up soon so seeing the Grand Jury convene all they had to do was stake out his place. Normal journalist stuff.

And THAT is why they were allowed so close to armed agents and a "dangerous" 66 year old man with no history of ANY violence.....right. :roll:

 

[poweRob]

You stop it. :lol: Explain to me why you think Stone is so dangerous that they needed 29 FBI agents to arrest him and exactly how CNN just happened to be on scene.

Sure. I think neither you nor I know FBI's SOP for arrests. Furthermore... It doesn't even matter whatsoever how he was arrested. That you are so focused on how the arrest happened rather than that a federal criminal was apprhended... shows that you are just here to obfuscate. And your meaningless conspiracy theory attempt to obfuscate makes you look incredibly foolish.

My turn...

Explain to me why how he was arrested even matters?

 

[SLC]

Explain to us why you are trying to deflect with a meaningless thing like that.

Stone may be guilty of some of the charges and may not be. That is for a jury to decide. I'm just pointing out trying to intimidate Stone with a predawn raid with 29 armed FBI agents in SWAT gear and 17 vehicles is just abuse of power and CNN just being on scene to film the raid at close range is evidence the FBI KNEW there was no danger that justified the use of so much power. It was clearly abuse of power. This isn't a police state.

 

[beefheart]

Stone may be guilty of some of the charges and may not be. That is for a jury to decide. I'm just pointing out trying to intimidate Stone with a predawn raid with 29 armed FBI agents in SWAT gear and 17 vehicles is just abuse of power and CNN just being on scene to film the raid at close range is evidence the FBI KNEW there was no danger that justified the use of so much power. It was clearly abuse of power. This isn't a police state.

BFD

Get over it, its not important, and you are only trying to deflect away from what a corrupt swine Stone is.

 

[Ahlevah]

Well of course you don't care about Roger Stone being a criminal :shock: and getting arrested.

I thought in order to be a criminal you need to be convicted first.

You care about controlling the narrative with a conspiracy theory instead. Roger is ****ed and he did it all to himself. His compadres including Corsi will be testifying against him. You keep peddling this meaningless conspiracy like the other trumpettes. The rest of us will be here living in reality land watching the administrations' lies finally destroy itself.

Reality is there's a whole industry of consulting and investigative firms built around candidates looking for dirt on their opponents. Hillary and the DNC certainly did it with Fusion GPS. When the stakes are as high as the presidency that's just the way the game is played. Welcome to modern America! :2wave: But can anyone tell us the sources in the Trump dossier, other than they were apparently cultivated over time in Russia by a former British intelligence officer? Does anyone care? No, because learning the truth behind the dossier does nothing to advance Trump's exit from the Oval Office.

In any case, why don't we wait for the trial first, Rob, and see if Stone's convicted? Or do you want to skip the trial and just get the rope now?

 

[poweRob]

BFD

Get over it, its not important, and you are only trying to deflect away from what a corrupt swine Stone is.

No. No he's not the only one. There are at least three others running with this same exact conspiracy theory distraction on this forum. The marching orders of obfuscate this topic have been sent and orders are being carried out.

 

[beefheart]

No. No he's not the only one. There are at least three others running with this same exact conspiracy theory distraction on this forum. The marching orders of obfuscate this topic have been sent and orders are being carried out.

Conservatives are all for law enforcement officials...until they aren't

 

[poweRob]

I thought in order to be a criminal you need to be convicted first.



Reality is there's a whole industry of consulting and investigative firms built around candidates looking for dirt on their opponents. Hillary and the DNC certainly did it with Fusion GPS. When the stakes are as high as the presidency that's just the way the game is played. Welcome to modern America! :2wave: But can anyone tell us the sources in the Trump dossier, other than they were apparently cultivated over time in Russia by a former British intelligence officer? Does anyone care? No, because learning the truth behind the dossier does nothing to advance Trump's exit from the Oval Office.

In any case, why don't we wait for the trial first, Rob, and see if Stone's convicted? Or do you want to skip the trial and just get the rope now?

"LOCK HER UP!!!!!!1!1!!!" Amirite? :lol:

Play dumb all you want. We are not a court. We are a political forum where speculation happens. I speculate that Stone is headed to prison... unless he deals of course or trump pardons him. Can't wait for the trial where his buddies have already lined up to testify against him.

Former Stone associates indicate willingness to testify against him​

He'll just be the latest in a line of trump criminals headed to prison and that line ain't nowhere near over yet.

 

[cpwill]

On page nine of the indictment there's an entreaty to switch to a secure line to continue a conversation.

WTH? What private citizens who have no government role needs, has or uses a secure line? Do you have a secure line? I don't. I haven't ever needed one.

You know why? Because I don't do things that are illegal!!! Because to discuss the most confidential matters that pertained to myself, my family, my firm and my clients, simply closing the door to my office is more than enough security. I haven't ever had anything to discuss that warranted my having to say it not only behind a closed door, but also on a secure telephone line.

1. While Stone getting arrested is hilarious, and I hope they throw the absolute book at him because
A) I am not a nice person and
B) I detest the man, what he stands for, and the people who excuse or enable him

2. I can think of plenty of reasonable reasons why non-government individuals and entities would want a secure line, especially in incredibly high-stakes activities like presidential campaigns.

 

[GDViking]

If Stone was so "dangerous" why did the FBI allow a CNN film crew on site. In dangerous situations film crews are moved to a safe perimeter. The CNN film crew was very close. Certainly within handgun or long gun range. Of course the FBI knew Stone wasn't a risk. This was just an attempt to intimidate Stone. Its not going to work.

I have no idea where the media was, I worked all day and my only info came from the radio and the net.

In reality it really does not matter, security overkill is always better than security understaffing.

As far as the media knowing, no **** everyone knew, they just did their job and found out when. It's good to see the free press actually covering news rather than reporting press releases.

 

[SLC]

Sure. I think neither you nor I know FBI's SOP for arrests. Furthermore... It doesn't even matter whatsoever how he was arrested. That you are so focused on how the arrest happened rather than that a federal criminal was apprhended... shows that you are just here to obfuscate. And your meaningless conspiracy theory attempt to obfuscate makes you look incredibly foolish.

My turn...

Explain to me why how he was arrested even matters?

Watch the Ingham Angle she had former FBI agents on that said it was abuse.

Just think of which is less expensive giving a call to Stone's lawyer and telling him to bring Stone in to be arrested or gathering 29 agents in SWAT gear and 17 vehicles predawn for a raid. Now which is potentially more dangerous to the agents and neighbors. A call to Stone's lawyer or having 29 armed men roaming around a residential neighborhood. This whole thing was for show hence CNN just happened to be on scene. It was a hugely excessive show of force meant to intimidate Stone and to impress morons. I seriously don't think Mueller will be successful trying to intimidate Stone. Now impressing Morons it appears he is being successful. :lol:

 

[GDViking]

I thought in order to be a criminal you need to be convicted first.



Reality is there's a whole industry of consulting and investigative firms built around candidates looking for dirt on their opponents. Hillary and the DNC certainly did it with Fusion GPS. When the stakes are as high as the presidency that's just the way the game is played. Welcome to modern America! :2wave: But can anyone tell us the sources in the Trump dossier, other than they were apparently cultivated over time in Russia by a former British intelligence officer? Does anyone care? No, because learning the truth behind the dossier does nothing to advance Trump's exit from the Oval Office.

In any case, why don't we wait for the trial first, Rob, and see if Stone's convicted? Or do you want to skip the trial and just get the rope now?

Wrong, you can be a life long criminal and never be convicted.

However you do not have to be a criminal to be a convict, but you do have to be convicted.

See the difference???