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Generalizations? Beheadings common place, amputations, the stoning of woman, legal rape, these are the tip of the ice berg and all common place in most Islamic nations judicial systems.
Indonesia the worlds third largest Democracy also has the worlds largest Muslim population and a female President.
"To the Muslim church I would say the reason I am doing on Saturday because I believe they worship a false god. They have a false text, a false prophet and a false scripture," said Old.
I'll ask of you what I asked of someone else - let's have the facts so we can debate them! Don't hide behind hyperbole and innuendo.
I've shot my bolt and provided links galore to back them up. Let's hear you out.
And while we're at it, let us all hear you outline the context of the Koran, why and how it was written and for what purpose. (And don't just say 'God'.)
Survey of Muslim world, Feb 2009
* 76 percent of Pakistanis want strict sharia in every Islamic country.
* 76 percent of Moroccans want strict sharia in every Islamic country.
* 90 percent of Palestinians support killing American troops in Iraq. And yet America is giving the Palestinians $1 billion in aid!
* 83 percent of Egyptians support killing American troops in Iraq. And yet America gives Egypt $2 billion in aid every year!
* 68 percent of Moroccans support killing American troops in Iraq.
* 40 percent in Turkey support killing American troops in Iraq. And yet America is pushing for its "ally" Turkey to be let into the EU.
* 83 percent of Egyptians support killing American troops in Afghanistan.
* 61 percent of Moroccans support killing American troops in Afghanistan.
* 78 percent of Palestinians have "positive" or "mixed" feelings towards Bin Laden.
* 69 percent of Egyptians have "positive" or "mixed" feelings towards Bin Laden.
* 53 percent of Moroccans have "positive" or "mixed" feelings towards Bin Laden.
* 51 percent of Pakistanis have "positive" or "mixed" feelings towards Bin Laden.
Pot, meet kettle.
If you're talking about this thread and your assertion regarding all those collaborators and sympathizers, you've failed. Sorry. If you're trying to prove something that sweeping, anecdotal evidence isn't good for anything but stand-up routines.
Wow, why not just ask me to do a detailed analysis of its entire text while you're at it?
Democratic Pakistan, riddled with terrorist agents and camps, also had a female leader. They killed her.
Point nulled.
And with that, a whole body of evidence running through the links, spanning many months of writing and taking a huge amount of time to read through and analyse and balance, is arbitrarily dismissed!
You must be a clever little boy to have digested all that lot in a few hours! Now let's have your evaluation with counter-evidence on every point raised. I could learn a lot from you professor!
So, you can't come up with anything concrete, no matter how concise - just pat ridicule and invalidation. Well, there's a persuasive academic rebuttal!
I thought we were going to have the facts at long last!
Huzzah for 18 month-old data!
Meaningless. There's no one unified code of Sharia law, much less "strict" Sharia law.
Probably because they think we shouldn't be there, and because there have been a number of incidents in those countries perpetrated by Americans that have made us look pretty ****ty as a nation.
Meaningless. What the hell does "positive" or "mixed" mean, and for that matter how many of them actually had "positive" feelings? Those numbers don't actually tell you.
I looked at the subjects of those threads, they were anecdotes.
It's hard to respond to your alarmist anecdotes with anything more serious than a . Sorry.
So, you ask me a question with a scope bigger than this whole forum, and then you scoff at me for refusing to take up your homework assignment. Brilliant!
Yeah, the entire Muslim world has undergone a complete revision to the ways of peace, democracy and tolerance since then hasn't it!
Cutting limbs off and stoning rape victims aside, imposition of Sharia in ANY form across the non-Muslim world is EVIL and TOTALITARIAN.
But then, being on the liberal-left, inclinations of that kind come naturally for some posters!
'Positive' means they thought good of him and 'mixed' means they thought he was generally OK.
I thought you liberals
Point not nulled assassination happens.
Newspaper articles, government statistics, academic links, documentary shows and political opinion articles alike? Blimey, you've got some dictionary-reading to do!
Point confirmed.
Well, you're the one telling me I'm wrong in my fundamental attitude, so let's revise it from the ground-up.
You need not go into screeds of text. Concise paragraphs barely longer than mine will suffice, with a link or two for deeper info.
If you know what you're talking about it'll come easy.
Nobody would accept survey results of that vintage on any other subject, unless the subject was historical.
There is no one uniform code of Sharia law. How many times do I have to say this?
How can you possibly know that?
Well what was the point of your statement then? It was a nice enough diversion, pretty flowers and sunshine and things, but it it doesn't seem to connect with anything.
A democracy with female president guarantees what, exactly?
You know, for some reason you keep avoiding being definitive on whether or not that pile of rubbish is anecdotal. I think there's a reason why...
Yes, it absolutely confirmed that it's hard to respond to your alarmist anecdotes with anything more serious than a .
What are you even asking for at this point?
It doesn't guarantee anything however it does illustrate not every country that is majority Muslim is as repressive as you would like to have people think.
These figures would be collated as regularly and exactly as possible. But across an unstable part of the hostile world it wouldn't be easy.
OK, what are your figures then? Teach me a lesson here instead of resorting to bluster. Come on big boy, do it good!
And how many times do I have to tell you that, stonings of rape victims or hangings of gays aside, these Muslims want Sharia IMPOSED.
I was taught the English language and the meaning of words when I was at school. That's the decoder key for deciphering all those baffling symbols and mouth noises I encounter each day.
If you saddle an entire culture / population / religion with stigma based on the actions of an infinitesimal fraction, that's hate and bigotry straight up.
And in 1946 few Germans had ever been Nazis.
If they drink the same Kool Aid as the others, they're part of the same problem.
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