Gun toting humans kill and maim more more people than all the other species of animals on this planet combined.Yet Pits kill and maim more people than all these breeds combined.
You only speak for yourself. The hubris is self-evident.No one cares about nerd charts with bite force.
You are the least capable person here qualified to render such a judgment.This isn’t relevant.
I asked you to prove your claim. Can't you do so? Perhaps you shouldn't bloviate ignorance then?I’m going to presume you mean every single statistical analysis of dog attacks ever as well as the indisputable history of the breed and it’s evolution through bear baiting to dog fighting is not “reputable” right?
Not relevantGun toting humans kill and maim more more people than all the other species of animals on this planet combined.
Not an argumentYou only speak for yourself. The hubris is self-evident.
You are the least capable person here qualified to render such a judgment.
which one are you disputing?I asked you to prove your claim. Can't you do so? Perhaps you shouldn't bloviate ignorance then?
That's what our local shelter tries to do, but maybe they are the exception?
In general, humans are the problem, not the dog.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
However, by the time the dog gets to the shelter, the dog isn't always capable of being socialized. Some are irreparably damaged as was the clear case with the Pitbull who went out for adoption, killing a four-year-old child. Someone or some at the shelter seriously failed the family who adopted this dog because those in charge of making sure he was ready for adoption seriously screwed up. This dog was clearly unsociable and unadoptable.
Yet Pits kill and maim more people than all these breeds combined. No one cares about nerd charts with bite force. This isn’t relevant.
There are five (5) breeds of "pit bulls" - SourceOther then the massive selective breeding for aggressive violence?
Well said.We don't get any background information on the strays we take in. All we can provide is a behavioral assessment and anectdotals of the dog's demeanor when acting with staff and volunteers while at the shelter. We also screen our adopters based on their experience with particular breeds, the age of family members and the presence of other animals in the home.
No disagreement there.
All of them, they’re the same dog. The bully XL is just a large pitbull, and they are so dangerous that the United Kingdom just banned them after a speed of fatal attacks.There are five (5) breeds of "pit bulls" - Source
- The American "Bully"
- The American Pit Bull Terrier
- The American Staffordshire Terrier
- The Staffordshire Bull Terrier and,
- The American Bulldog.
The range in size from 24 pounds to 120 pounds and height from 13" to 28"
--> Which breed do you contend is the one that was "massively selectively bred for aggressive violence?"
From the link:
Pit bull-type dogs often face unfair discrimination. These dogs were bred for their muscular build and consequently have been used in inhumane dogfighting sports. This has given them an inaccurate reputation as being overly aggressive dogs. In fact, pit bull-type dogs are usually incredibly loving, loyal, and gentle with their family members. They also tend to be playful and eager to please.Pit bull-type dogs typically have muscular, stocky builds with deep chests and large, square heads. They’re notoriously determined dogs. When given a task, whether it be learning a new trick or digging a hole, they won’t give up easily. And they usually love people, including strangers, and crave attention. Training and socialization from a young age are important for pit bulls. Otherwise, their size and strength can be difficult to handle, as they might pull hard on a leash or jump up on people to greet them.
All pitbull dogs are bread for violence. This is not even in dispute. At least not among serious historians.--> Which breed do you contend is the one that was "massively selectively bred for aggressive violence?"
Lol pit bulls are like the Rohingya or the Jews? LolFrom the link:
Pit bull-type dogs often face unfair discrimination.
It is the other way around, these types of dogs were specifically bred for fighting sports. They are the evolution of 400 years of selective breeding for sports, such as bearbaiting, which is where they were bred to attack the face and neck, and bullbaiting, which is where they were bred for a muscular jaw that doesn’t let go.These dogs were bred for their muscular build and consequently have been used in inhumane dogfighting sports.
Inaccurate? LolThis has given them an inaccurate reputation as being overly aggressive dogs.
This is subjective gobblygookincredibly loving, loyal, and gentle with their family members. They also tend to be playful and eager to please.
Especially if that task is tearing the face off a young child, Pibbie doesn’t give up!Pit bull-type dogs typically have muscular, stocky builds with deep chests and large, square heads. They’re notoriously determined dogs. When given a task, whether it be learning a new trick or digging a hole, they won’t give up easily.
Or attack them, and in many pitbull attacks, it will require the use of firearms to get them to release their jaws.And they usually love people, including strangers, and crave attention. Training and socialization from a young age are important for pit bulls. Otherwise, their size and strength can be difficult to handle, as they might pull hard on a leash or jump up on people to greet them.
Really?The only good pit bull is one with a bullet hole between its eyes.
Yes.Really?
There are very few bad dogs but too many bad handlers.This is a topic that doesn’t get enough attention, how animal “rights” extremists have taken over local animal shelters which are taxpayer funded and used them as platforms to advance agendas like “no kill” policies which directly lead to often fatal harm to the public. This isn’t the first time this has happened, but it’s a pretty interesting case.
From the excellent website dogsbite.org we get the story
2023 Dog Bite Fatality: Pit Bull-Mix that Killed Child on Halloween in Northeast Spokane, Washington was Recently Adopted
Dog Adopted Out by County Shelter (SCRAPS) 8-Weeks Earlier Colton Kline, 4, was killed by a family dog in northeast Spokane, Washington. Dog Adopted from County UPDATE 12/06/23: The dog that killed Colton Kline was adopted from Spokane Regional Animalblog.dogsbite.org
Basically this 2 year old male pitbull was taken into Spokane county animal rescue, no information about why the animal ended up in the shelter has been provided to journalists or seemingly to the family who adopted the dog, and within 3 months, December of 2023, the pit bull fatally attacks the family’s 4 year old boy.
This is of course no surprise because these types of attacks against children and the elderly/infirm by pit bulls adopted as “pets” occur multiple times every year. Resulting in deaths or disfigurement. Less then four months before Colton Kline was killed by the pitbull Spokane adopted an ordinance banning the animal rescue from euthanizing dangerous animals
Unfortunately no one was at the council to advocate for children like Colton Kline, only his killer is worthy of representation in the city of Spokane
It’s way past time responsible legislators start cracking down on animal shelters. No kill policies should be illegal and pit bulls should be presumed dangerous and euthanized when admitted to shelters. At the very least anyone thinking of adopting a pit bull should be entitled to written warnings from the shelters explaining these dogs are dangerous, kill more people then all other breeds combined, and have such a strong jaw lock that you can’t get them off their victims. One report of the attack shows the child’s grandmother actually repeatedly sliced this dog with a knife including in the throat and it still came back to continue the attack. People don’t know what they’re getting into with these animals and shelters need to start being held accountable
What did you do wrong?Yes.
It doesn't matter if it's a puppy like the one that attacked me and left a scar on my upper thigh or if it's a full grown one that destroyed the hand of the girlfriend of a friend of mine.
I was minding my own business walking on a path around a lake. The girlfriend was taking her two pit bulls for a walk.What did you do wrong?
Bad handlers then.I was minding my own business walking on a path around a lake. The girlfriend was taking her two pit bulls for a walk.
They were all "good dogs"...and now they are dead.
This is total nonsenseBad handlers then.
For pity's sake - they are demonstrably NOT the same dog, or even the same breed. Goodness, you clearly know absolutely nothing about any of this.All of them, they’re the same dog. The bully XL is just a large pitbull, and they are so dangerous that the United Kingdom just banned them after a speed of fatal attacks.
The American Staffordshire terrier, is the American pitbull terrier. The same dog can be registered with the united kennel club as the American pitbull terrier or the American kennel club as the American staffordshire terrier, do you know what the American Staffordshire terrier is? It was a paper fraud committed by John p Colby because he was breeding fighting dogs and the AKC wouldn’t let him register his pit bull studs, so he created a breed name of “staffordshire terrier” to register his fighting dogs, and you know what happened to the sire of the Staffordshire terrier bloodline?
Well, it tore the neck out of Colby’s nephew
For pity's sake - they are demonstrably NOT the same dog, or even the same breed. Goodness, you clearly know absolutely nothing about any of this.
What did you do wrong?
Yes, you did. And no, that wasn't my response; I explained quite succinctly and definitively the fact that there are FIVE (5) breeds of dogs under that generic name of "pit bull," one being your American Staffordshire. FIVE (5) distinct breeds of different height and weight - and appearance - heck, I even provided pictures should there be some who struggle with written explanations in articles written by experts in this field.I explained exactly who created the American staffordshire and why it’s a pit Bull and your response is “nuh uh”
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