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Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'

stekim said:
I hate when I see those fat asses with handicapped plates rolling around Puiblix on a scooter because they are too fat to walk. Makes me want to tip the freezer over on top of them. You are handicapped because you ate yourself into resembling a human cow? WTF?
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What is it about eating disorders that you don't understand, stekim?? Should we execute people with eating disorders?
 
windovervocalcords said:
What is it about eating disorders that you don't understand, stekim?? Should we execute people with eating disorders?
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1. How do you know they have an "eating disorder"? You don't. You only know they are fat. 60% of Americans are overweight. How many of those people have "eating disorders"?
2. An "eating disorder" is not a handicap.
3. If one cannot identify one has an "eating disorder" by the time one tops 400 pounds and needs to be wheeled around the MegaLoMart in a rented cargo van, Stekim has little sympathy. You are not handicapped. You are a moron. Put the party sized sub and gallon of coke down and waddle to the phone.
4. Yes, in fact, we should execute people with eating disorders. Quickest solution to the problem.
 
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hazlnut said:
53% (many misinformed) does not equal 'Most'.

We live in a Republic with democratic elections. What Americas 'want' is represented by the current make-up of the House and the Senate. I want more of a balance and will cast future votes accordingly.

We don't live in a direct democracy--I'm not sure everyone attending these Town Halls understand this.
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Actually, "most" is defined as "more than half", "majority". 53% is "most" by any HONEST definition of the word.
 
Goobieman said:
In what world does 53% not equal "most"?
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In the Messiah world. If someone doesn't support the Messiah, they're heretics and don't count. The Followers are saying, "damn it, the Messiah wants to destroy America, so we're going to ignore the people that want to save it."
 
Redress said:
So you are saying most people support disrupting town hall meetings? Or did you misunderstand his point? Or, most likely, are you just misrepresenting what he said?

I also noticed you did not include this quote from him:
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I fully support the distruption of Nuremburg Rallies.

You got a problem with that?
 
Catz Part Deux said:
You need to read up a little bit on our history. Americans used to kill each other over political insults. See: Alexander Hamilton.

Rudeness at public meetings is a well-established American tradition, though we don't do it as well as the Brits, who routinely throw rotten produce.
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I think we would be a better society had we not outlawed dueling. :mrgreen:
 
JakeFromWI said:
---Specter: Protests not 'representative of America'---

They are protesting the democratic process. They are going to forums and disrupting a democratic civil debate. WHY NOT DEBATE the issues. Fine, protest the health care plan, but lets talk about why. You don't have to yell, bring guns, draw swastikas on congressmen's signs, or protest a meeting. Town hall meetings are A FORUM FOR DEBATE. Yelling at a civil meeting is in fact unamerican. Is that even arguable?
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They go there to express thier opinion and to shout down the misinformation and ignorance being sold to them as "UHC"...


Granted some get out of line but for the most part, passioned speaking is not "protesting the democratic proccess".....



Look at the links i have posted over the last couple days, show me who is "disrupting", its the union thugs, and paid plants by the left.
 
Lerxst said:
I believe that a lot of this "outrage" is orchestrated. The disruption is deliberate and not because it reflects the genuine dissatisfaction of the people, but because the authors of the disruption would like it to appear that way.

It's much easier to turn a town hall discussion on it's ear than it is to put together a march on Washington. But you have enough town hall meetings go south because some folks decide they are going to yell and scream and act like morons instead of intelligently addressing the issues they have...well that gets better airplay.
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pssst.....


09.12.09 March on Washington | The Tea Party Movement Goes to Capitol Hill
 
Redress said:
There is zero evidence that these things have any likelihood to be put into the health care plan currently under consideration. Suggesting otherwise is misleading. You would be quick to call a liberal trying to do something like that.

You did misrepresent his words. Let's look at the quote.



Note the bolded part. Not people opposed to the bill, but people disrupting the town hall meetings.
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Are you people that ignorant, or simply to full of "hope" ("hope", with quotes, drops out the back end of the bull) to face reality?

The reality is that any government plan HAS to include rationing because the budget isn't unlimited. Someone, and that's the name of the Faceless Bureaucrat, has to decide who gets what.

So the Granny Board will become a reality.
 
My how things have changed for the left:


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0"]YouTube - I Am Sick And Tired - Hillary Clinton[/ame]
 
disneydude said:
The wacko fringe that are showing up disrupting these meetings are not representative of America. They are representative of the same wacko fringe that Sarah Palin used to attract.

The public overwhelmingly was in favor of healthcare reform until the insurance companies and the right-wing radio nuts began their campaign of distortions (ala...death panels and kill granny).

The right-wing once again has shown that they are very very good at using the politics of fear and distortion to sway that segment of the population that doesn't educate themselves and can be influenced with 10 second sound bites.

We will get healthcare reform....despite the efforts of the insurance corporations. The only question will be whether it will be meaningful change or just a bandaid.
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Oh, good gawd. Is this the part where the template says you need to blame Bush and Cheney next? Quick, say Big Oil, or...something.

The system needs reform. Virtually 100 percent of Americans believe that, so it's not like BO is starting this from a position of weakness. With an intelligent, well-researched, well-informed plan, it should be a slam dunk.

But this isn't about healthcare. This is about control. Obama doesn't give a rip about providing Americans with better healthcare; he wants to CONTROL their healthcare, making them even more dependent than his constituents already are on government. That ensures more elections for the Democrats.

He's failing miserably. Gitmo, Iraq, stimulus, cap and tax, unemployment.....

Meanwhile, the stock market is creeping upward. It crashed in fear when it realized this joke was going to win the presidency, and now it's rebounding because it's hopeful that his agenda is crashing and his popularity is drying up.

But you go ahead and blame it on the "right wing", which CAN'T STOP ANYTHING FROM PASSING ANYWAY!
 
Erod said:
Oh, good gawd. Is this the part where the template says you need to blame Bush and Cheney next? Quick, say Big Oil, or...something.

The system needs reform. Virtually 100 percent of Americans believe that, so it's not like BO is starting this from a position of weakness. With an intelligent, well-researched, well-informed plan, it should be a slam dunk.

But this isn't about healthcare. This is about control. Obama doesn't give a rip about providing Americans with better healthcare; he wants to CONTROL their healthcare, making them even more dependent than his constituents already are on government. That ensures more elections for the Democrats.

He's failing miserably. Gitmo, Iraq, stimulus, cap and tax, unemployment.....

Meanwhile, the stock market is creeping upward. It crashed in fear when it realized this joke was going to win the presidency, and now it's rebounding because it's hopeful that his agenda is crashing and his popularity is drying up.

But you go ahead and blame it on the "right wing", which CAN'T STOP ANYTHING FROM PASSING ANYWAY!
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This hits the proverbial nail on the head. Bravo..... :applaud
 
Erod said:
But you go ahead and blame it on the "right wing", which CAN'T STOP ANYTHING FROM PASSING ANYWAY!
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It doesn't stop them from trying and fighting tooth and nail to protect their corporate profits and dividends.

As I said....Healthcare reform is going to pass. Just like you said....ultimately the GOP is too powerless to stop it.
 
Most Americans, Mr. Specter, are against the plan. They are more "representative of America" than you and your ilk.
The wealthy American may be against any change, and this has been the case for a very long time.
The poor and the ever shrinking "middle class" do want a better system.
We have to look to the more socially advanced nations in Europe and Canada for this.
A man has to be either blind and or insulated from real life to not see that things are not as good as they should be.. Our health care is not patient friendly, not efficient, and is corrupted with greed from patients and doctors and lawyers.
I'd like to see the insurance, as we know it, GO.
Pay as one goes with federal government insurance for catastrophes, only.
I'd like to hear from those in other lands for some intelligent discourse..
Many of those at the "town meetings" are idiots. :3oops:
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Erod said:
Oh, good gawd. Is this the part where the template says you need to blame Bush and Cheney next? Quick, say Big Oil, or...something.

The system needs reform. Virtually 100 percent of Americans believe that, so it's not like BO is starting this from a position of weakness. With an intelligent, well-researched, well-informed plan, it should be a slam dunk.

But this isn't about healthcare. This is about control. Obama doesn't give a rip about providing Americans with better healthcare; he wants to CONTROL their healthcare, making them even more dependent than his constituents already are on government. That ensures more elections for the Democrats.

He's failing miserably. Gitmo, Iraq, stimulus, cap and tax, unemployment.....

Meanwhile, the stock market is creeping upward. It crashed in fear when it realized this joke was going to win the presidency, and now it's rebounding because it's hopeful that his agenda is crashing and his popularity is drying up.

But you go ahead and blame it on the "right wing", which CAN'T STOP ANYTHING FROM PASSING ANYWAY!
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You were doing good until you reverted to the GOP talking points of control and socialism. Here is the facts, the GOP had control under GW Bush and did nothing to change or help healthcare. When Clinton tried to reform healthcare, insurance companies were all on board with legislation that ended the practice of exclusion due to pre-existing conditions. Where are we now? No change. Once again, the GOP criticizes without presenting the slightest alternative besides the status quo.
 
This commerical always reminds me of the face of the GOP. Today it represents the faces of the teabaggers and angry protestors:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfmJWYJFYfk"]YouTube - banking another way[/ame]
 
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