Spanking: Is it still an effective method of discipline?

[stealthycat]

A good parent holds a 4 year old hand so they can't run into traffic.
Duh

You don't wait for them to run out then beat them

you physically restrain your child? how brutal and cold and heartless ! child abuse !!!

of course, you cannot hold the hand of your kid 24x7 .... parents know this

 

[BirdinHand]

On the other hand, should children grow up with the idea that they will never be physically harmed?

Kids should grow up in the world knowing that their parents will never physically harm them. The world may be violent, but home shouldn’t be.

 

[Revelation]

What she said. Spanking only teaches kids that physical assault is socially acceptable.

no it doesn't when done with Love for yur child.

Its also causes long term problems in children.

no it doesn't, see above.

I have CPTSD as a result of my mothers sociopathic actions. She was beaten as a child and so believed that she earned the right to do it to her children.

my guess she was spanked like everyone else.

I broken that chain because nobody touched my daughter.

her loss.

We sat down and talked about any behavior problems instead of spanking.

good move. combine spanking with Love and talking with them.

are we getting this yet? (probably not, minds are made up and not to be disturbed with facts of any kind)


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[Revelation]

Kids should grow up in the world knowing that their parents will never physically harm them. The world may be violent, but home shouldn’t be.

spanking is not harming.

done correctly, spanking is a part of love for a child you care about.

spanking should never be Violent, neither should the home be either.

the public schools desperately need to get back to corporal punishment.


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[poppopfox]

meh, never hurt me.

Sure it did, perhaps you just enjoyed it a little too much?

and i preferred a goood spankin over any other punishment.

you all missed out on so much. FOMO.

Masochism is the enjoyment of receiving pain or humiliation.

 

[Hatuey]

All of this rambling to justify beating kids would be funny if we ignored that it is real adults trying to be serious.

I am not surprised at the people exposing their failures as parents and the creepy enjoyment at hurting little children that some get.

It is exatcly who I figured it would be. Gross stuff, folks.

 

[noonereal]

you physically restrain your child? how brutal and cold and heartless ! child abuse !!!

of course, you cannot hold the hand of your kid 24x7 .... parents know this

You can hold your child's hand WHEVER they are out side and potentially near danger like traffic. Easy as can be. My kids were brought up on very busy fast city roads. We knew how to take care of them

NEVER beat any of my kids.i taught consequences and the rewards for achievement.

 

[poppopfox]

we can all tell who's had kids and who hasn't !!

Sure, 'cause we're all psychic like you!

But we sure as heck can tell which parents have a sadistic trait -

stealthycat said:
yes, you can pinch them really hard under their arms and that gets their attention too

 

[madman]

Let me state this: Though retired I know quite a few kids and their parents. Kids nowadays are labeled as lazy, entitled, spoiled, and snarky.
Not my experience. I could post dozens of studies that show that children that are spanked are actually more likely to grow up wanting to spank their kids than parents who use other methods to discipline.

Of all the parents I know, none use spanking, and their kids are doing fine. Mind you, that is just from a casual observation, not exactly a scientific study.

Still................... spanking is still perceived as a necessary form of discipline. And arguments for and against can become quite intense. Typically "Don't tell me how to discipline my child!"

So, straight up, is spanking effective? Or, as it is happening in some countries, should be outlawed? Even if not outlawed, should it still be used as a form of discipline in this day and age?

spanking is a form of regret for having kids.

 

[OlNate]

This isn’t about parenting, it is about adult treatment of children. No one needs physical punishment to learn proper behavior. I think it is dangerous to think that parents own their children and can do whatever they want to them. Or that any adult can do whatever they want to a child to teach them anything.

This thread has arrived at the place these threads always arrive at, so I've kinda checked out, bud. People love to tell other people how to parent.

I'll just say this briefly, and then I'm out:

I needed physical punishment as a kid, and my mother was never cruel with it, so I tend to think about it differently. We are close to this day, I gabbed with her on the phone for over an hour just yesterday (and told her that a good portion of the forum thought she was a big meanie...hehe). I am glad someone cared enough about me to do something they hated and might be criticized for so I wouldn't turn out to be a douchebag. And I don't think it had anything to do with her believing she "owned" me, or that she could do "whatever she wanted". You'll just have to believe me, that's not who she is.

My son, on the other hand, did not need it, so I never really had to mess around with it.

I am not saying a child must be spanked any more than I'm saying they must not be. I'm familiar with what the studies say, and I'm familiar with my own experience, and my takeaway is that different things work for different people.

And that's me done with this thread. If we agree to disagree, I'm ok with that, and I don't hate you for where you've landed.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

This thread has arrived at the place these threads always arrive at, so I've kinda checked out, bud. People love to tell other people how to parent.

I'll just say this briefly, and then I'm out:

I needed physical punishment as a kid, and my mother was never cruel with it, so I tend to think about it differently. We are close to this day, I gabbed with her on the phone for over an hour just yesterday (and told her that a good portion of the forum thought she was a big meanie...hehe). I am glad someone cared enough about me to do something they hated and might be criticized for so I wouldn't turn out to be a douchebag. And I don't think it had anything to do with her believing she "owned" me, or that she could do "whatever she wanted". You'll just have to believe me, that's not who she is.

My son, on the other hand, did not need it, so I never really had to mess around with it.

I am not saying a child must be spanked any more than I'm saying they must not be. I'm familiar with what the studies say, and I'm familiar with my own experience, and my takeaway is that different things work for different people.

And that's me done with this thread. If we agree to disagree, I'm ok with that, and I don't hate you for where you've landed.

The way you describe spanking doesn't make it sound so bad.
It's when some people, particularly, and ODDLY, always from a particular demographic, start saying things like the spanking was needed for "training" your kids. Read back a few of the comments posted and see what spanking - by those particular individuals - is being used for.

 

[OlNate]

The way you describe spanking doesn't make it sound so bad.
It's when some people, particularly, and ODDLY, always from a particular demographic, start saying things like the spanking was needed for "training" your kids. Read back a few of the comments posted and see what spanking - by those particular individuals - is being used for.

Spare the rod, spoil the child isn't accurate either, but a lot of folks go by that too.

I think when we get past generalizing we'll be in better shape to come up with individual solutions for individual situations. I just find it tough to have this conversation in a debate format.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Lord have mercy. You STILL couldn't answer the question. That's ok, not answering IS an answer.

ROFL

The "NUHN UHN YOO" reply.

How pathetic.

If this poll were taken outside of DP, which is a radical left echo chamber, the results would be vastly different. No matter how many time you duck the fact, it will remain a fact.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Lol, beating a child is beating a child. People that do this should face jail.
Yes I know they are just ignorant and unskilled at parenting people but it must be stopped so they MUST face jail time.

Listen and learn from me.

You can't be taken seriously and have no willingness to discuss the issue in a rational, adult fashion.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Raising your kids according to the bible:

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Your Anti-Semitism is noted, and I believe already well established. Is it your trope that all Jews, and by extension Christians, sacrifice their children? Are you aware that in the story, Abram did not actually sacrifice Isaac? I get that you're just smearing those you hate, but still.

 

[RF667799]

Spare the rod, spoil the child isn't accurate either, but a lot of folks go by that too.

I think when we get past generalizing we'll be in better shape to come up with individual solutions for individual situations. I just find it tough to have this conversation in a debate format.

A few tried to hold "spank" as synonomous with "beat" and "abuse".

And another did his best to support that from the other end.

It was interesting watching the extremes take over though.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Hat, i get to The Point when i write my threads.

from my Perspective, you all are Desperate.

Jamie has the antidote.

give her a listen and live. your kids will live delighting you in the Process.



the Question is: are you Desperate?


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When I was in my 30's, there were friends my wife and I would not visit because their kids were hellions who were in charge of everything. Always these were the leftist friends who didn't believe in discipline.

Every family will have a leader, an alpha if you will. When the alpha is a 6 year old, then misery is the norm for all involved.

Put another way, a well placed swat on the behind are 4, keeps your from having to bail them out of jail at 14.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This isn’t about parenting, it is about adult treatment of children. No one needs physical punishment to learn proper behavior. I think it is dangerous to think that parents own their children and can do whatever they want to them. Or that any adult can do whatever they want to a child to teach them anything.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that your parent (s) never spanked you, and what you said was the law.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The alternatives in a world full of bad parents are beating kids or kids growing up thinking they will never be harmed.

Yes, because as discipline declined, the instance of crime by youth disappeared..

Oh wait, it's steadily increased over the last 30 years.

Just coincidence though.

In the world of good parenting, there is nuance for kids to learn that physical harm will never come from their parents.

Spanking isn't physical harm. The fact that you can't be honest tells us so much.

There is also nuance to teach them that harm can come from others and they should be ready to defend themselves.

So raise children without discipline and teach them to be bullies. Sounds like what the left would promote.

 

[Ethel2]

There is a massive difference between a video of violence and being victim to it.

Not so massive if you’re a kid watching it. A difference, yes. But what kids imagine is sometimes far worse than reality. Adults watch a horror movie and know it’s just a movie. Kids watch it and internalize it sometimes as something that could happen to them.

 

[Hatuey]

Yes, because as discipline declined, the instance of crime by youth disappeared..

Oh wait, it's steadily increased over the last 30 years.

Just coincidence though.

Spanking isn't physical harm. The fact that you can't be honest tells us so much.

So raise children without discipline and teach them to be bullies. Sounds like what the left would promote.

This is all the ramblings of a person looking to justify failures as a parent by hitting little kids.

 

[Hatuey]

Your Anti-Semitism is noted,

It is antisemitic to not physically harm our kids? Delusional.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Yes, because as discipline declined, the instance of crime by youth disappeared..

Oh wait, it's steadily increased over the last 30 years.

Just coincidence though.




Spanking isn't physical harm. The fact that you can't be honest tells us so much.



So raise children without discipline and teach them to be bullies. Sounds like what the left would promote.

I seriously hope you are NOT an example of someone who was spanked. It would be all the proof we need that spanking doesn't work.

 

[Uncensored2008]

This is all the ramblings of a person looking to justify failures as a parent by hitting little kids.

So you try and blow smoke that as discipline has declined, the instance of youth offenders has increased.

No surprise. Maybe it's the fault of the Jews because Abram in the Torah obeyed God and took Isaac to be sacrificed, though God stopped it?

 

[Hatuey]

So you try and blow smoke that as discipline has declined,

Nobody cares about why you defend hitting little kids who can't defend themselves, man.

It is just you defending failures in parenting.