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Some people are still birthers

I keep trying to tell the birthers that Obama's REAL father is US Born Communist Agitator Frank Marshall Davis, therefore removing all doubt of his father's citizenship. The name of the URL says it as plain as day: http://www.obamasrealfather.com

No one can accuse me of being a birther, no sir!

That cite actually claims that Obama's real father wasn't Davis and that Obama is a hardcore capitalist.

Did you even bother to read it?
 
can we move this out of the Conspiracy Theory thread now that ive proven Obama is from Kenya
 
can we move this out of the Conspiracy Theory thread now that ive proven Obama is from Kenya

I believe I can say without an expectation of contradiction, nope.

But your fantasy life is quite entertaining, perhaps something a little spicier next time?
 
I believe I can say without an expectation of contradiction, nope.

But your fantasy life is quite entertaining, perhaps something a little spicier next time?

theres nothing more spicy than when president trump deports Obama back to his village
 
theres nothing more spicy than when president trump deports Obama back to his village

Now that's more like it!

But that's just a lite dash of black pepper, turn on the heat!

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Now that's more like it!

But that's just a lite dash of black pepper, turn on the heat!

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do you sell this product? it looks delicious
 
can we move this out of the Conspiracy Theory thread now that ive proven Obama is from Kenya

Gee, maybe you should call the Associated Press and all the networks..:roll:
 
If an American citizen gives birth anywhere in the world, that child is automatically a citizen.
Automatically a citizen?
No. Simply no.

1. Even what you quoted shows what you said to be wrong.
What you quoted without citing.

If one parent is a U.S. citizen and the other parent is not, the child is a citizen if the U.S. citizen parent has been "physically present"[SUP][16][/SUP] in the U.S. before the child's birth for a total period of at least five years, and at least two of those five years were after the U.S. citizen parent's fourteenth birthday.[SUP][17][/SUP]

Do you see in what you quoted that there are specific factors that determine whether or not a person becomes a citizen?
Those factors show it is not automatic simply because the mother is a citizen.

2. Most importantly.
That is the way the Law is now, not the way it was when Obama was born. Which makes what you provided irrelevant to this specific discussion.
The Law you quote came into being in 1986 and was not the law in effect at the time Obama was born in 1961.


The formatting and the foot notes of what you quoted appear to be an exact match for the Wikipedia entry on the subject. If that is where you obtained the information the following applies.
Had you bothered to look into foot note #17 or hovered over it, you would have found pertinent information regarding the law in effect at the time of his birth thus validating what I said.


Immigration and Nationality Act § 301(g); 8 USC § 1401(g). For children born prior to the enactment of Public Law 99-653 on November 14, 1986, the citizen parent's U.S. presence requirement is ten years, of which at least five years had to have been after the parent's fourteenth birthday.

Again, the argument was if he had born abroad.
Had he been born abroad his mother would not have satisfied the requirements to transfer citizenship upon him. Obama's mother was 18 at his birth, which is only 4 years past her 14th birthday, not 5 as required.





If an American citizen gives birth anywhere in the world, that child is automatically a citizen.
True.
Not true.





If an American citizen gives birth anywhere in the world, that child is automatically a citizen.
Yup, ...
iLOL

Nope. There is no "yup" about it.
What she said is wrong.
 
That cite actually claims that Obama's real father wasn't Davis and that Obama is a hardcore capitalist.

Did you even bother to read it?

How did you get that out of this?

Man, you birthers say the darnedest things. Obama's father being Frank Marshall Davis means Obama is a natural born US citizen as well as a natural born Communist.

At age 18, Barack Obama admittedly arrived at Occidental College a committed revolutionary Marxist. What was the source of Obama's foundation in Marxism? Throughout his 2008 Presidential campaign and term in office, questions have been raised regarding Barack Obama's family background, economic philosophy, and fundamental political ideology. Dreams from My Real Father is the alternative Barack Obama "autobiography," offering a divergent theory of what may have shaped our 44th President's life and politics.

In Dreams from My Real Father, Barack Obama is portrayed by a voiceover actor who chronicles Barack Obama's life journey in socialism, from birth through his election to the Presidency. The film begins by presenting the case that Barack Obama's real father was Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party USA propagandist who likely shaped Obama's world view during his formative years. Barack Obama sold himself to America as the multi-cultural ideal, a man who stood above politics. Was the goat herding Kenyan father only a fairy tale to obscure a Marxist agenda, irreconcilable with American values?
 
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How did you get that out of this?

I see the use of the utterly absurd in commentary to that link flew right past you. When you post bull****, don't be surprised if other people comment on your post using bull****.
 
I see the use of the utterly absurd in commentary to that link flew right past you. When you post bull****, don't be surprised if other people comment on your post using bull****.

I'm just trying to discredit the birthers. I should score double praise from Democrats on the board by asserting that Obama is both a natural born US citizen and a verified Communist.
 
I'm just trying to discredit the birthers. I should score double praise from Democrats on the board by asserting that Obama is both a natural born US citizen and a verified Communist.

Nah. You'll just get laughed at, like you're getting laughed at now.

Obama isn't a communist, no matter how much you stamp your feet and tear at your hair.
 
Automatically a citizen?
No. Simply no.

1. Even what you quoted shows what you said to be wrong.
What you quoted without citing.

If one parent is a U.S. citizen and the other parent is not, the child is a citizen if the U.S. citizen parent has been "physically present"[SUP][16][/SUP] in the U.S. before the child's birth for a total period of at least five years, and at least two of those five years were after the U.S. citizen parent's fourteenth birthday.[SUP][17][/SUP]

Do you see in what you quoted that there are specific factors that determine whether or not a person becomes a citizen?
Those factors show it is not automatic simply because the mother is a citizen.

2. Most importantly.
That is the way the Law is now, not the way it was when Obama was born. Which makes what you provided irrelevant to this specific discussion.
The Law you quote came into being in 1986 and was not the law in effect at the time Obama was born in 1961.


The formatting and the foot notes of what you quoted appear to be an exact match for the Wikipedia entry on the subject. If that is where you obtained the information the following applies.
Had you bothered to look into foot note #17 or hovered over it, you would have found pertinent information regarding the law in effect at the time of his birth thus validating what I said.


Immigration and Nationality Act § 301(g); 8 USC § 1401(g). For children born prior to the enactment of Public Law 99-653 on November 14, 1986, the citizen parent's U.S. presence requirement is ten years, of which at least five years had to have been after the parent's fourteenth birthday.

Again, the argument was if he had born abroad.
Had he been born abroad his mother would not have satisfied the requirements to transfer citizenship upon him. Obama's mother was 18 at his birth, which is only 4 years past her 14th birthday, not 5 as required.






Not true.





iLOL

Nope. There is no "yup" about it.
What she said is wrong.

Right again, Excon. But since he has a birth certificate for Hawaii, it's moot. He is a citizen. Or are you a birther, too.
 
How did you get that out of this?

Man, you birthers say the darnedest things. Obama's father being Frank Marshall Davis means Obama is a natural born US citizen as well as a natural born Communist.

There is no such thing as a "natural born communist," any more than there can be a "natural born Republican."

One becomes a communist when one joins the communist party. I'm sure even Lenin would agree.
 
Nah. You'll just get laughed at, like you're getting laughed at now.

Obama isn't a communist, no matter how much you stamp your feet and tear at your hair.

I'm willing to give all theories regarding who Obama's father is the benefit of the doubt. It could have been any black man. Ann Dunham, Obama's mother was featured in the black porn magazine "Sex Rebel", so we have an idea what kind of life she lead and her general (lack of) character.

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Breaking News

The Intimate Ann Dunham -
Frank Marshall Davis Relationship
Racy photos of Barack Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, have recently surfaced in vintage fetish and bondage magazines. The photos, taken at Frank Marshall Davis' house in Honolulu, appeared in Bizarre Life, Exotique, Secret Pleasures, and Battling Babes. They help illustrate the intimate relationship between Dunham and Davis. "My father was from Kenya, he grew up herding goats," Barack Obama told the cheering crowds. Did Obama build his political career upon a fairy tale? Was Obama misdirecting Americans away from a deeply disturbing family background and a Marxist political foundation?
Obama's version of his early childhood is false - the family did not split up when the Kenyan Obama went to Harvard as he claimed. In fact, Ann Dunham took "Barry" to Seattle a few weeks after his birth (late August 1961), and began studies at the University of Washington, while the Kenyan remained in Hawaii. All evidence points to a "sham" marriage to cover up an illicit affair. Barack Obama began regular visits to Frank Marshall Davis' house at the age of 10, and Obama refers to Frank Marshall Davis throughout his autobiography as his childhood "mentor." Dreams from My Real Father makes the case that the Communist Party USA propagandist was both Obama's biological and ideological father, and likely indoctrinated Obama in Marxism during his formative years.
 
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Right again, Excon.
Which would be a good reason folks shouldn't make blanket statements which can be proven wrong.


But since he has a birth certificate for Hawaii, it's moot. He is a citizen.
This completely ignores the frailty of your argument and why it was wrong. You were essentially saying his birth place was moot by saying it didn't matter to all, when a child's birthplace does matter a great deal because it's citizenship is not always predicated on the citizenship of the mother.

It also ignores the fact that my response was predicated on what you said, as I clearly indicated; Again, that is only if he wasn't born here.
 
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