Soldiers pledge to refuse disarmament demands

[BulletWounD]

Soldiers pledge to refuse disarmament demands

An invitation to soldiers and peace officers across the United States to pledge to refuse illegal orders – including "state of emergency" orders that could include disarming or detaining American citizens – has struck a chord, collecting more than 100,000 website visitors in a little over a week and hundreds of e-mails daily.

Spokesman Stewart Rhodes of Oath Keepers told WND his organization's goal is to remind military members their oath of allegiance is to the U.S. Constitution, not a particular president.

He said the organization deliberately does not collect the names of those who subscribe to Oath Keepers' beliefs because of their status mostly as active duty soldiers.

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Soldiers pledge to refuse disarmament demands

 

[Goshin]

Thanks for that info, it makes me feel a little better about our current dire straits.

You wouldn't have a direct link to the website in question, would you?


G.

 

[WillRockwell]

I never cease to be surprised by the extent of the nuttiness of the right.

 

[BulletWounD]

I never cease to be surprised by the extent of the nuttiness of the right.

How is refusing to violate their oath to the Constitution "nutty?"

I just read it again. Yeah, there is some nutty stuff in there :lol:

 

[Lerxst]

Look, I know plenty of soldiers and LEO's who would refuse this order. The Sheriff of my county has publicly stated he would refuse to seize his citizens guns if the 2nd Amendment were suspended. However this issue is only getting play because people are hyping up this myth that Obama is going to try to disarm the population through executive muscle.

It isn't going to happen. This is yet more fear mongering coming from uber partisans. "Oh this isn't in response to Obama's policies, but WE NEED TO MOVE NOW!"

:rofl

Good for them, and I am glad there is some group of soldiers and LEO's who say they will refuse an order like that, but the probability of that order coming down is about as high as an order to outlaw religion.

It isn't going to happen.

 

[BulletWounD]

Thanks for that info, it makes me feel a little better about our current dire straits.

You wouldn't have a direct link to the website in question, would you?


G.

Oath Keepers

 

[jamesrage]

Look, I know plenty of soldiers and LEO's who would refuse this order.

There are also a lot who would not refuse that order. Those are the ones we should be worried about.

It isn't going to happen. This is yet more fear mongering coming from uber partisans. "Oh this isn't in response to Obama's policies, but WE NEED TO MOVE NOW!"

Considering the the left's stand on the 2nd amendment how is this fear mongering? Look at their record,the second amendment doesn't mean **** to these libs.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057829047-post13.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057829048-post14.html

 

[RightinNYC]

Moderator's Warning:

1) This is not breaking news. It's a "report" on some online petition and nutjob chain email. 2) Whoever owns the copyright to this horribly written drivel probably wouldn't appreciate your copying of all of it.

On a more personal level, you will find yourself better educated and more knowledgeable about the world if you stop reading anything on WND.

 

[BulletWounD]

Moderator's Warning:

1) This is not breaking news. It's a "report" on some online petition and nutjob chain email. 2) Whoever owns the copyright to this horribly written drivel probably wouldn't appreciate your copying of all of it.

On a more personal level, you will find yourself better educated and more knowledgeable about the world if you stop reading anything on WND.

Sorry if I broke the forum rules and I probably should have posted a summary in compliance with fair use.

On a seperate note, I like WND. Some of the stuff they post is difficult to find elsewhere.

 

[RightinNYC]

Sorry if I broke the forum rules and I probably should have posted a summary in compliance with fair use.

Not a problem.

On a seperate note, I like WND. Some of the stuff they post is difficult to find elsewhere.

That's probably because it's either a) false, or b) spun to fit their viewpoint.

 

[BulletWounD]

Not a problem.



That's probably because it's either a) false, or b) spun to fit their viewpoint.

Of course it's spun. There's nothing wrong with partisan information sources as long as you exercise your critical mind and compare the information with what you already know (from outside sources). Do you have any examples of blatantly false information?

 

[RightinNYC]

Of course it's spun. There's nothing wrong with partisan information sources as long as you exercise your critical mind and compare the information with what you already know (from outside sources). Do you have any examples of blatantly false information?

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WND is just ****. Absolute, unmitigated ****. Anything you want to learn about that's on their site is somewhere else, written better. If it's not, there's a good reason.

 

[BulletWounD]

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****ing LOOOOOOOL



WND is just ****. Absolute, unmitigated ****. Anything you want to learn about that's on their site is somewhere else, written better. If it's not, there's a good reason.

LOL thanks

 

[jamesrage]

Too bad the mods do not treat all conspiracies the same.Any man-made global warming article should go down to his forum section,although the religion section would probably make a better forum section for man-made global warming articles.

 

[BulletWounD]

There are also a lot who would not refuse that order. Those are the ones we should be worried about.




Considering the the left's stand on the 2nd amendment how is this fear mongering? Look at their record,the second amendment doesn't mean **** to these libs.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057829047-post13.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057829048-post14.html

The Constitution doesn't mean **** to the left in general; it's an obstacle. (Admittedly, Bush was guilty of this as well). I'm still waiting to see where wealth redistribution and "Universal Health Care" are covered in the Constitution.

 

[RightinNYC]

Too bad the mods do not treat all conspiracies the same.Any man-made global warming article should go down to his forum section,although the religion section would probably make a better forum section for man-made global warming articles.

Uh, setting aside the fact that they're obviously not analogous, we do move global-warming threads out of breaking news and into the "Climate" section.

 

[BmanMcfly]

How is refusing to violate their oath to the Constitution "nutty?"

I just read it again. Yeah, there is some nutty stuff in there :lol:

Which parts??

Look, I know plenty of soldiers and LEO's who would refuse this order. The Sheriff of my county has publicly stated he would refuse to seize his citizens guns if the 2nd Amendment were suspended. However this issue is only getting play because people are hyping up this myth that Obama is going to try to disarm the population through executive muscle.

That's what he's announced... Obama also announced the mandatory civilian service, and now there's one vote away before the 'Give' act becomes law. If I understood correctly.

It isn't going to happen. This is yet more fear mongering coming from uber partisans. "Oh this isn't in response to Obama's policies, but WE NEED TO MOVE NOW!"

:rofl

Good for them, and I am glad there is some group of soldiers and LEO's who say they will refuse an order like that, but the probability of that order coming down is about as high as an order to outlaw religion.

It isn't going to happen.

I don't know how it will happen, but there will be an effort to either or both encourage people to turn in their guns for 'perks' at the same time as reducing the flow of ammunition, making laws more difficult for private fun sales, increase 'testing' of gun owners and make buying a gun a much more restrictive process... I mean, if they can manage to wipe out the bullets, once the bullets are gone, the gun is useless.

Moderator's Warning:

1) This is not breaking news. It's a "report" on some online petition and nutjob chain email. 2) Whoever owns the copyright to this horribly written drivel probably wouldn't appreciate your copying of all of it.

On a more personal level, you will find yourself better educated and more knowledgeable about the world if you stop reading anything on WND.

1 - It's breaking news because it's an important petition. To know that there are servicemen that have drawn a line in the sand because they can see the tyranny drawing the line in the sand.

2 - Since the author is trying to make aware, mainly of uniformed officers of this petition, to know that there are people drawing a line in the sand against the grasp of a federal takeover, I expect that the author would appreciate others spreading the message.

Do a favor, do a search for the 'MIAC' reportt... read it and find out how many different ways that cops are being trained that YOU are a domestic terrorist. There are other reports that go as far as saying 'being nice to police, community service, and blue-jeans' are all signs that a person is a modern militia membe (aka cop-killing terrorist) This is NOT being made up, forged, Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and Ralph Nader have threatened a lawsuit over this defamation.