So what's everybody's issue with Andrew Yang?

[Luther]

Easily the smartest and most progressive leftie around and the layman doesn't even know who the **** he is. What's up with that? Might we expect more from him in the future?

Easily the smartest and most progressive leftie

He will fit right in with those who gave us the Fed income tax?

Oh yes, it sounds real American to give the fed Gov the power to tax us any damn well they please

 

[Luther]

I disagree and find your attitude to be callous.


They probably believe they are defending country culture which they believe is american culture.



I am progressive, they are not the same thing. I am more akin to a social democrat than a socialist.

I disagree and find your attitude to be callous

Not me

180,000 inflated COVID deaths to 330,000,000 people?

They probably believe they are defending country culture which they believe is american culture.

Well yeah....

I am progressive, they are not the same thing. I am more akin to a social democrat than a socialist.

With socialist beliefs?

 

[dex4974]

He will fit right in with those who gave us the Fed income tax?

Oh yes, it sounds real American to give the fed Gov the power to tax us any damn well they please

We need to at least start talking about and making plans for things like UBI. Conservatives will just have to get over the government taking care of people because technology is going to make that more and more necessary as time goes on.

 

[marke]

He is a little ahead of his time. I have heard economists talk about his idea of universal basic income, and how that would actually be a boon to the economy. But these ideas are new and strange for the average lay person to understand or accept readily. Also, the likes of the Koch brothers don’t like the idea of everyone in society being given basic human dignity. Neither do the racists.

But his 2020 campaign served an important role in at least introducing people to the idea. He is young, and we will hopefully hear from him, or his ideas, again in the future.

Universal basic income will never work. However, oppressive governments can try to make it work by penalizing the industrious in order to grant to the lazy in efforts of meeting those Marxist goals. Communism will always be a very bad idea. A better plan for the entire economy would be to incorporate the Biblical mandate that if a man will not work then neither should he eat.

 

[dex4974]

Universal basic income will never work.

It has to. On a big enough timeline society will collapse if it doesn't.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Not me

180,000 inflated COVID deaths to 330,000,000 people?

The True Coronavirus Toll in the U.S. Has Already Surpassed 200,000 - The New York Times

Well yeah...

There is no "true" US culture, its all a bunch of subcultures, so the people acting out in this way are only acting in their interest and not in the interest of the whole country

With socialist beliefs?

Not really, I tend to prefer market solutions when viable and would prefer to rely on other types of economic problem solving if the market cannot handle whatever the issue is. I tend to lean capitalist but am open to other ideas.

 

[marke]

It has to. On a big enough timeline society will collapse if it doesn't.

America is already seen as self-centered, greedy, selfish and evil for giving lazy bums in America living wages while giving nothing to starving people holding out their poor hands around the world. Nobody can solve worldwide poverty with tax increases, but make no mistake about it, modern world bankers and political leaders have their eye on Americans' bank accounts as a rich potential source of money to address world hunger and poverty.

 

[dex4974]

America is already seen as self-centered, greedy, selfish and evil for giving bums living wages while giving starving people with their poor hands out nothing. Nobody can solve worldwide poverty with tax increases.

UBI wouldn't be for the whole world; not for a while anyway.

 

[ataraxia]

Yes, thanks to our past and present VAIN politicians

There is no reason why other countries can’t catch up or surpass the US economically and technologically in a generation or so. If the US has bad policies like incompetent governance and leavings it’s citizens to fend for themselves in a in the freedom of a Darwinian jungle, in the name of “freedom”, that can happen sooner.

 

[ataraxia]

America is already seen as self-centered, greedy, selfish and evil for giving lazy bums in America living wages while giving nothing to starving people holding out their poor hands around the world. Nobody can solve worldwide poverty with tax increases, but make no mistake about it, modern world bankers and political leaders have their eye on Americans' bank accounts as a rich potential source of money to address world hunger and poverty.

America is too busy protecting its coddled workers, with obsolete skills and wanting to continue to cling to obsolete technology, from harder working and better educated international labor.

 

[marke]

It has to. On a big enough timeline society will collapse if it doesn't.

People are not stupid. All a government has to do is make it profitable to be lazy and give lazy bums loads of cash for not working and the economy will collapse in no time because millions of workers will give up their jobs in exchange for free cash.

 

[ataraxia]

People are not stupid. All a government has to do is make it profitable to be lazy and give lazy bums loads of cash for not working and the economy will collapse in no time because millions of workers will give up their jobs in exchange for free cash.

Economies which protects the basic human rights of their citizens have more stable and prosperous economies. Thise who want to propogate incompetent governance and propagation of the law of the jungle in the name of “freedom” don’t do well in the long term. The only people who propagate such ignorant myths are racists who have no sense of solidarity with their fellow countrymen because of skin color, religion, or ethnicity, or plutocrats who, in their shortsighted greed don’t want to pay their taxes for the benefits of living in a advanced developed economy.


Free Markets Are Regulated - Foundation for Economic Education

 

[marke]

Economies which protects the basic human rights of their citizens have more stable and prosperous economies. Thise who want to propogate incompetent governance and propagation of the law of the jungle in the name of “freedom” don’t do well in the long term. The only people who propagate such ignorant myths are racists who have no sense of solidarity with their fellow countrymen because of skin color, religion, or ethnicity, or plutocrats who, in their shortsighted greed don’t want to pay their taxes for the benefits of living in a advanced developed economy.


Free Markets Are Regulated - Foundation for Economic Education

Any government that moves to burden businesses in an effort to appease the poor and envious by robbing the hard-working rich to give to the shiftless poor is being run by incompetents.

 

[Luther]

We need to at least start talking about and making plans for things like UBI. Conservatives will just have to get over the government taking care of people because technology is going to make that more and more necessary as time goes on.

UBI.

Educate me... What is UBI?

 

[Luther]

There is no "true" US culture,

Sure there is

Our Failed American public school system has failed you

The one thing we should have(All Americans) is the spirit in what was our AMERICAN REVOLUTION

Not really, I tend to prefer market solutions when viable and would prefer to rely on other types of economic problem solving if the market cannot handle whatever the issue is. I tend to lean capitalist but am open to other ideas.

Psst...... Taco, Bernie Sanders is an Admitted "socialist"

 

[Luther]

There is no reason why other countries can’t catch up or surpass the US economically and technologically in a generation or so. If the US has bad policies like incompetent governance and leavings it’s citizens to fend for themselves in a in the freedom of a Darwinian jungle, in the name of “freedom”, that can happen sooner.

There is no reason why other countries can’t catch up or surpass the US economically and technologically in a generation or so.

Finish the story

Why is that?

It's because of our past and present vain politicians voted in by a Vain citizenry?


Amen?

 

[Luther]

It has to. On a big enough timeline society will collapse if it doesn't.

Wrong

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"

 

[Luther]

the true coronavirus toll in the u.s. Has already surpassed 200,000 - the new york times




there is no "true" us culture, its all a bunch of subcultures, so the people acting out in this way are only acting in their interest and not in the interest of the whole country



not really, i tend to prefer market solutions when viable and would prefer to rely on other types of economic problem solving if the market cannot handle whatever the issue is. I tend to lean capitalist but am open to other ideas.

the true coronavirus toll in the u.s. Has already surpassed 200,000 - the new york times

bs.......

 

[Slartibartfast]

bs.......

Quite the opposite, we are undercounting.

The only other viable possibility is these deaths are due to the economic issues caused by the virus and the USA's piss poor response to it.

 

[Luther]

Quite the opposite, we are undercounting.

The only other viable possibility is these deaths are due to the economic issues caused by the virus and the USA's piss poor response to it.

Quite the opposite, we are undercounting.

Follow the Money Taco

The only other viable possibility is these deaths are due to the economic issues caused by the virus and the USA's piss poor response to i

Or terminally ill patients lying in Nursing homes?

 

[Slartibartfast]

Follow the Money Taco



Or terminally ill patients lying in Nursing homes?

Yes, the nursing home community was susceptible to COVID and there was a lot of death there due to it.

 

[Luther]

Yes, the nursing home community was susceptible to COVID and there was a lot of death there due to it.

We should have concentrated on that instead of self destruction our own selves by destroying our economy and freedoms

 

[Slartibartfast]

We should have concentrated on that instead of self destruction our own selves by destroying our economy and freedoms

Viruses are not so easily controlled, it would have required a perfect containment.

 

[Luther]

Viruses are not so easily controlled, it would have required a perfect containment.

Viruses are not so easily controlled

This Virus isn't as bad as so many people like you make it out to be?

 

[Slartibartfast]

This Virus isn't as bad as so many people like you make it out to be?

I disagree. Its killed nearly 200,000 (by official numbers) people so far this year.