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NoMoreDems-Reps said:I know let's vote in some more Republicans and
Democrats so they can continue screwing up the
U.S. and the rest of the world!
I mean we don’t really want change do we!
We don’t want to put competent, honest people
In to the White House Right?
We like all this debt, corruption, pollution, and world
chaos right! And above all we don’t ever, never want to think
Out side of the box like those silly Forefather of ours
Did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Read the Declaration of Independence)
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/declaration.html
NoMoreDems-Reps said:I know let's vote in some more Republicans and
Democrats so they can continue screwing up the
U.S. and the rest of the world!
I mean we don’t really want change do we!
We don’t want to put competent, honest people
In to the White House Right?
We like all this debt, corruption, pollution, and world
chaos right! And above all we don’t ever, never want to think
Out side of the box like those silly Forefather of ours
Did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Read the Declaration of Independence)
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/declaration.html
Navy Pride said:Well if you not happy with our government here you could always move to Iran or Cuba and try theirs.........
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AmericanPatriot29 said:www.constitutionparty.com -Platfrom is on the left menu bar.
NAVY PRIDE- that was a very poor excuse. The government should be controlled by the people we shouldnt just have to tolerate the corruption because we dont have a choice. Be an American patriot and stand up for what you believe in. The situation will only get worse if we dont do whats right. Secondly there is no doubt in my mind that we will become like Cuba and Iran if we dont make some changes pronto. We are heading in that direction.
NoMoreDems-Reps said:This is what's wrong with America!
I never said Cuba's government was better, I said "OUR" Politicians are
unfit for the Job, and we should expect more from them!
When your FORCED to pick between the "LESSER of TWO EVILS"
in the end your still left with Evil !
And I agree with what AmericanPatriot29 said.
thats a bit poor. Just because other people are doing things worse doesn't mean that problems shouldn't be addressed at homeWell if you not happy with our government here you could always move to Iran or Cuba and try theirs.........
well what about the fact that the US system as it stands is completly money driven?I have traveled all over the world in my Navy career and I have yet to find a government better then ours........
Navy Pride said:I have traveled all over the world in my Navy career and I have yet to find a government better then ours........
disneydude said:Navy: If you had made this statement 4 years ago I would have agreed with you. But this current administration's "isolationist" policies have taken us from being one the the most free and respected nations in the world to quite the opposite. With this administration we have seen our freedoms eroded in the name of protection< not to mention that bush has financially and morally bankrupted this country to levels unseen>
what should we do next election?
we need to elect someone (Republican, Democrat, whatever) who is not going to pursue their own imperialistic agenda, who will not cater to the radical right fringe, who will not prey on Americans fear at every whim).
We need a "leader" in this country. Someone who will not be asleep at the wheel when our nation comes under attack by other men/nature.
I would like to see some candidates that will work to unite the country rather than drive a political wedge to promote their agenda.
Otherwise, this country is headed towards a cultural civil war.
Once again....I remember the words of Abraham Lincoln: "If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher".
How is France or Germany any more corrupt than the US?You make some good points but personally I could care less what the likes of Germany or France think about us.......They are both corrupt up to their necks.......
I don't think it is right to describe Kerry as a left-wing wacko, or anyone in US politics for that matter. It would appear that both parties are running along a rough consenusI am no big fan of President Bush but when your party puts up someone left wing whacko like John Kerry as and alternate you give me no choice as to who to vote for...........
Willoughby said:How is France or Germany any more corrupt than the US?
I don't think it is right to describe Kerry as a left-wing wacko, or anyone in US politics for that matter. It would appear that both parties are running along a rough consenus
Navy Pride said:Well if you not happy with our government here you could always move to Iran or Cuba and try theirs.........
AmericanPatriot29 said:NAVY PRIDE- that was a very poor excuse. The government should be controlled by the people we shouldnt just have to tolerate the corruption because we dont have a choice. Be an American patriot and stand up for what you believe in. The situation will only get worse if we dont do whats right. Secondly there is no doubt in my mind that we will become like Cuba and Iran if we dont make some changes pronto. We are heading in that direction.
Navy Pride said:Have another snort on that stuff your using.......
Navy Pride said:Well the point I am trying to make to you is we may not have the best government in the world but there is a lot of countries governments a hell of a lot worse......
disneydude said:But this current administration's "isolationist" policies...
disneydude said:we need to elect someone (Republican, Democrat, whatever) who is not going to pursue their own imperialistic agenda
disneydude said:Navy: If you had made this statement 4 years ago I would have agreed with you. But this current administration's "isolationist" policies have taken us from being one the the most free and respected nations in the world to quite the opposite. With this administration we have seen our freedoms eroded in the name of protection< not to mention that bush has financially and morally bankrupted this country to levels unseen>
what should we do next election?
we need to elect someone (Republican, Democrat, whatever) who is not going to pursue their own imperialistic agenda, who will not cater to the radical right fringe, who will not prey on Americans fear at every whim).
We need a "leader" in this country. Someone who will not be asleep at the wheel when our nation comes under attack by other men/nature.
I would like to see some candidates that will work to unite the country rather than drive a political wedge to promote their agenda.
Otherwise, this country is headed towards a cultural civil war.
Once again....I remember the words of Abraham Lincoln: "If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher".
RealmOfThePureForms said:Navy Pride lets apply your logic to other things.
Navy Pride says that we have the best government in the world, so we are safe and don't have to worry about ever falling into a dictatorship. So lets use that same logic on some other things.
We have the best medical technology in the world, so we no longer have to work in medicine to come up with new cures and new information. No need to improve here because we are the best.
Sounds real intelligent doesn't it?
Yeah we have the best government, and that's because our founders never stopped pushing for the best. Our country is the greatest nation on earth, but it's hardly great at all. We still have millions of our own people starving, still have millions suffering from disease, still have trillions of dollars being wasted by the government.
"Our problem is that we don't really learn from history. George Santayana said that "those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it." The philosopher Hegel said, "What experience and history teach us is this: that people and government never have learned anything from history or acted on principles deduced from it." Or as Winston Churchill said, "The one thing we have learned from history is that we don't learn from history."
The refrains that are often heard are: "It can't happen here," or "Our country is different." But the reality is that nations are born and die just like individuals. Their longevity may exceed the average person's lifespan. But the reality is that nations also die.
History has shown that the average age of the great civilizations is around two hundred years. Countries like Great Britain exceed the average while other countries like the United States are just now reaching the average age.
Each of the great civilizations in the world passed through a series of stages from their birth to their decline to their death. Historians have listed these in ten stages.
The first stage moves from bondage to spiritual faith. The second from spiritual faith to great courage. The third stage moves from great courage to liberty. The fourth stage moves from liberty to abundance. The fifth stage moves from abundance to selfishness. The sixth stage moves from selfishness to complacency. The seventh stage moves from complacency to apathy. The eighth stage moves from apathy to moral decay. The ninth stage moves from moral decay to dependence. And the tenth and last stage moves from dependence to bondage.
These are the ten stages through which the great civilizations have gone. Notice the progression from bondage to liberty back to bondage. The first generation throws off the shackles of bondage only to have a later generation through apathy and indifference allow itself to once again be enslaved."
We are somewhere between the 7th and 9th stages.
Navy Pride said:France and Germany were in bed with Saddam on the oil for food program...They made billions of dollars while Iraqi children starved........Oh and I don't believe the U.S. is corrupt....When someone like you who is not from this country makes a statement like that I just consider the source....
Kerry is the biggest liberal in the Senate....His voting record was even tothe left of Kennedy......
You really need to learn a little about U.S. politics my friend....
dragonslayer said:Thank God for real Americans like Kerry. Always remember the left takes care of Americans while the Right make false promises and passes out BS.
We won't be fooled again.
the Current government is absolute the most corrupt government in our history.
To trust Bush and Cheney is the same as trusting Satan.
Come on Navy, stop the BS about France and Germany. They are looking out for their people the same as Bush should be looking out for the American people. We all know that European Common Market is in competition for trade with the US.
They are our partners in Afghanistan. We Americans know that the war in Iraq is Bush little war, that is fiscally destroying America. Look at the huge National debt that Bush has aquired. It could take a hundred years for our children to pay it off. Look at the legacy of Bush, Lies, Corruption, Crime, unwarranted agression, death, disease, and poverty for most of our people in the next few years.
All one has to do is read the local and state news to realize how little Bush and the Neocon are in touch with the American people. No matter how much you try, you cannot distract the American people from Bush and his folly. The press says that Bush's approval ratings are about 30%. They are trying to be kind. Bush approval rating are actuallly only 12% in many states if the truth were known. In the next election, Neocons are going down and out of office with the waste. They are starting discard Bush in hope that they can fool America again. How Sad.
We won't be fooled again.
We need to get rid of Bush, Cheney, Gingritch, etc and start resolving the war on terror instead of creating enemies and more terrorists. Bush trully needs to be impeached for crimes against the American people.
Can we trust a man who signs in to law, laws not approved in Congress? Can we trust this would be king.
The sad thing is Bush is completely clueless when it come to the American people, or he does not care at all about the American People. Bush only care about money and playing war. He treats our troops as if they were little plastic toy soldiers, sailors, and Airmen.
Navy Pride said:And our troops love this president and hate the democrats and liberals who constantly try and put him down............That has to be a bitter pill for you lefties to swallow........
Oh and one more thing..........President Bush is not running again..Juliani, McCain and Rice kill all democrats who are running for prez in the polls.......
Eat you heart out!!!!!
Navy Pride said:Oh and I don't believe the U.S. is corrupt....When someone like you who is not from this country makes a statement like that I just consider the source....
Navy Pride said:They are both corrupt up to their necks.......
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