So I have to quit my job...

[Renae]

Okay, long story short, when applying for this job I currently hold, one of the main draws is that I would have the chance to work near my apartment. Like, within .7 miles.

I live out at a research park, that is guarded by the University PD. There are some very nice apartments on campus, and since the company my wife works for is on the campus, we moved out here about 18 months ago.

When I interviewed for the position, I stated that the number one incentive for my wanting to work for them, was the proximity of my home to the guard shack, and the nearby campus that they have a guard posted at.

All good.

I was told ten days ago, I am no longer allowed to be stationed out here. Why you ask? I sure as hell did. I didn't do anything wrong, hell I was told during my 5 month review, which was stellar BTW. No, the reason is that the Operations Lt. has decided that she should "Prevent any possible problems" by banning me from working here. So instead of walking to work, I now have to drive 20 miles to the Main Campus in the City, and 20 miles back. The other drawback is that my coworkers most of whom have no desire to drive out HERE have to do the same, in reverse.

She believes the proximity of my home and place of work is too "tempting" and I might go home while on watch. The level of insult that is for me is beyond comprehension. I cannot begin to describe my level of anger over this.

Instead of a 3 minute drive, it's a 30 min drive.

My wife is beyond furious about this. She believes I should just quit on the spot.

I would if I could, oh would I.

/rant off.

 

[aps]

Okay, long story short, when applying for this job I currently hold, one of the main draws is that I would have the chance to work near my apartment. Like, within .7 miles.

I live out at a research park, that is guarded by the University PD. There are some very nice apartments on campus, and since the company my wife works for is on the campus, we moved out here about 18 months ago.

When I interviewed for the position, I stated that the number one incentive for my wanting to work for them, was the proximity of my home to the guard shack, and the nearby campus that they have a guard posted at.

All good.

I was told ten days ago, I am no longer allowed to be stationed out here. Why you ask? I sure as hell did. I didn't do anything wrong, hell I was told during my 5 month review, which was stellar BTW. No, the reason is that the Operations Lt. has decided that she should "Prevent any possible problems" by banning me from working here. So instead of walking to work, I now have to drive 20 miles to the Main Campus in the City, and 20 miles back. The other drawback is that my coworkers most of whom have no desire to drive out HERE have to do the same, in reverse.

She believes the proximity of my home and place of work is too "tempting" and I might go home while on watch. The level of insult that is for me is beyond comprehension. I cannot begin to describe my level of anger over this.

Instead of a 3 minute drive, it's a 30 min drive.

My wife is beyond furious about this. She believes I should just quit on the spot.

I would if I could, oh would I.

/rant off.

Mr. Vicchio, that seems totally wrong. Is there someone above her with whom you can speak? If this was me, I would take this to the top. If I had taken it to the top and was unsuccessful, I would, at a minimum, speak to an employment attorney. This seems totally bogus. If you had been caught going home on the job, sure, I can understand this kind of thing. But it hasn't happened and you received a stellar review? Something is not right here. PLEASE look into it further.

 

[Renae]

Mr. Vicchio, that seems totally wrong. Is there someone above her with whom you can speak? If this was me, I would take this to the top. If I had taken it to the top and was unsuccessful, I would, at a minimum, speak to an employment attorney. This seems totally bogus. If you had been caught going home on the job, sure, I can understand this kind of thing. But it hasn't happened and you received a stellar review? Something is not right here. PLEASE look into it further.

I've considered it, but I have to think long term here. If I raise a ruckus, and she isn't removed from control over my employment, that's gonna put a bullseye on my back. If I lose the battle, I'm screwed, and I need more then this to go after her with an attorney. I know, I've asked.

 

[Ethereal]

Okay, long story short, when applying for this job I currently hold, one of the main draws is that I would have the chance to work near my apartment. Like, within .7 miles.

I live out at a research park, that is guarded by the University PD. There are some very nice apartments on campus, and since the company my wife works for is on the campus, we moved out here about 18 months ago.

When I interviewed for the position, I stated that the number one incentive for my wanting to work for them, was the proximity of my home to the guard shack, and the nearby campus that they have a guard posted at.

All good.

I was told ten days ago, I am no longer allowed to be stationed out here. Why you ask? I sure as hell did. I didn't do anything wrong, hell I was told during my 5 month review, which was stellar BTW. No, the reason is that the Operations Lt. has decided that she should "Prevent any possible problems" by banning me from working here. So instead of walking to work, I now have to drive 20 miles to the Main Campus in the City, and 20 miles back. The other drawback is that my coworkers most of whom have no desire to drive out HERE have to do the same, in reverse.

She believes the proximity of my home and place of work is too "tempting" and I might go home while on watch. The level of insult that is for me is beyond comprehension. I cannot begin to describe my level of anger over this.

Instead of a 3 minute drive, it's a 30 min drive.

My wife is beyond furious about this. She believes I should just quit on the spot.

I would if I could, oh would I.

/rant off.

Suck it up and try to get on her good side. Maybe you can convince her to change her mind after she sees what a stellar employee you are.

 

[jallman]

Okay, long story short, when applying for this job I currently hold, one of the main draws is that I would have the chance to work near my apartment. Like, within .7 miles.

I live out at a research park, that is guarded by the University PD. There are some very nice apartments on campus, and since the company my wife works for is on the campus, we moved out here about 18 months ago.

When I interviewed for the position, I stated that the number one incentive for my wanting to work for them, was the proximity of my home to the guard shack, and the nearby campus that they have a guard posted at.

All good.

I was told ten days ago, I am no longer allowed to be stationed out here. Why you ask? I sure as hell did. I didn't do anything wrong, hell I was told during my 5 month review, which was stellar BTW. No, the reason is that the Operations Lt. has decided that she should "Prevent any possible problems" by banning me from working here. So instead of walking to work, I now have to drive 20 miles to the Main Campus in the City, and 20 miles back. The other drawback is that my coworkers most of whom have no desire to drive out HERE have to do the same, in reverse.

She believes the proximity of my home and place of work is too "tempting" and I might go home while on watch. The level of insult that is for me is beyond comprehension. I cannot begin to describe my level of anger over this.

Instead of a 3 minute drive, it's a 30 min drive.

My wife is beyond furious about this. She believes I should just quit on the spot.

I would if I could, oh would I.

/rant off.

That's not something I would tolerate. I would first start by pointing out that you had never had such an issue and that her implying it was an insult. I would follow that up with wanting some documented support for her concerns and that failure to provide that would result in you going above her head.

Who originally interviewed you that you related your desire for a short commute? Maybe speak to them about it.

Barring that, flat out tell her that you will be seeking other employment and that this is a deal breaker.

 

[liblady]

Okay, long story short, when applying for this job I currently hold, one of the main draws is that I would have the chance to work near my apartment. Like, within .7 miles.

I live out at a research park, that is guarded by the University PD. There are some very nice apartments on campus, and since the company my wife works for is on the campus, we moved out here about 18 months ago.

When I interviewed for the position, I stated that the number one incentive for my wanting to work for them, was the proximity of my home to the guard shack, and the nearby campus that they have a guard posted at.

All good.

I was told ten days ago, I am no longer allowed to be stationed out here. Why you ask? I sure as hell did. I didn't do anything wrong, hell I was told during my 5 month review, which was stellar BTW. No, the reason is that the Operations Lt. has decided that she should "Prevent any possible problems" by banning me from working here. So instead of walking to work, I now have to drive 20 miles to the Main Campus in the City, and 20 miles back. The other drawback is that my coworkers most of whom have no desire to drive out HERE have to do the same, in reverse.

She believes the proximity of my home and place of work is too "tempting" and I might go home while on watch. The level of insult that is for me is beyond comprehension. I cannot begin to describe my level of anger over this.

Instead of a 3 minute drive, it's a 30 min drive.

My wife is beyond furious about this. She believes I should just quit on the spot.

I would if I could, oh would I.

/rant off.

i have no idea what you do for a living, but that seems crazy. i live in fl but my group and supervisors are in a northern state.

 

[liblady]

That's not something I would tolerate. I would first start by pointing out that you had never had such an issue and that her implying it was an insult. I would follow that up with wanting some documented support for her concerns and that failure to provide that would result in you going above her head.

Who originally interviewed you that you related your desire for a short commute? Maybe speak to them about it.

Barring that, flat out tell her that you will be seeking other employment and that this is a deal breaker.

unless he's prepared to walk immedialtey, no way should he tell his employer he is seeking other employment.

 

[justabubba]

or maybe she is looking for a way to get rid of you, by placing you in a situation where YOU are the one to quit. bet she quickly sized up what would piss you off

make no waves. ride this out, do the commute for a while and out-survive her. then get reassigned back to your present post

chances are, with that kind of management "style", she has others who would like to do her career some harm. stick around long enough to identify them and support their efforts. don't get mad, get even

and there is absolutely nothing you have presented which would give basis to legal action ... as it appears you have already come to recognize

 

[jallman]

unless he's prepared to walk immedialtey, no way should he tell his employer he is seeking other employment.

Oh I don't know about that. I think if he is prepared to walk, he should make it clear just how far he is willing to take it.

I know over something as trivial as this, I wouldn't want an employee to walk and knowing they are willing to would probably make me of a mind to reconsider. She just needs to be shown the error of her ways.

 

[liblady]

Oh I don't know about that. I think if he is prepared to walk, he should make it clear just how far he is willing to take it.

I know over something as trivial as this, I wouldn't want an employee to walk and knowing they are willing to would probably make me of a mind to reconsider. She just needs to be shown the error of her ways.

right, but he DOES have to be prepared to walk. and it's a tough market right now. i remember some time ago i threatened to walk, and my expertise wasn't quite as critical as i believed at the time. ;-)

 

[jallman]

right, but he DOES have to be prepared to walk. and it's a tough market right now. i remember some time ago i threatened to walk, and my expertise wasn't quite as critical as i believed at the time. ;-)

Ouch. In technology, if you position yourself well, your expertise is always critical so we have a little more leverage than most.

 

[liblady]

Ouch. In technology, if you position yourself well, your expertise is always critical so we have a little more leverage than most.

it turned out well......but i learned a great lesson. now, i look behind those types of issues for the REAL issues, and deal with those.

and you're right, my group couldn't function w/o our techs. that's why they are all cross trained.

 

[jallman]

it turned out well......but i learned a great lesson. now, i look behind those types of issues for the REAL issues, and deal with those.

and you're right, my group couldn't function w/o our techs. that's why they are all cross trained.

I'm just now getting my guys to cross train like they should. But cross training or not, with some of the back office stuff, individuals become key elements to a smoothly running operation.

 

[Ethereal]

Ouch. In technology, if you position yourself well, your expertise is always critical so we have a little more leverage than most.

Not enough people know how to DO something these days, so it's a valuable skill set to have. Our education system as a whole would benefit if trades and skills were given equal emphasis in the curriculum.

The education system should provide the avenues instead of plotting the course.

 

[jallman]

Not enough people know how to DO something these days, so it's a valuable skill set to have. Our education system as a whole would benefit if trades and skills were given equal emphasis in the curriculum.

The education system should provide the avenues instead of plotting the course.

I've often espoused in the education forum that kids should start having options opened to them that are in line with their aptitudes rather than everyone being pushed to try to become doctors and engineers.

I figure by the 8th grade you know if you have a future astrophysicist or if you have a refrigerator repairman on your hands.

 

[Redress]

She believes the proximity of my home and place of work is too "tempting" and I might go home while on watch. The level of insult that is for me is beyond comprehension. I cannot begin to describe my level of anger over this.

I think at that point I would have quit. To suggest, with no evidence, that you have no sense or morals or ethics is just beyond anything acceptable. If you cannot file a grievance with safety, I have no good advice, you are just going to have to weigh your options. That comment though is just insane.

 

[Ethereal]

I've often espoused in the education forum that kids should start having options opened to them that are in line with their aptitudes rather than everyone being pushed to try to become doctors and engineers.

I figure by the 8th grade you know if you have a future astrophysicist or if you have a refrigerator repairman on your hands.

It seems like this makes the most sense, and is not at all controversial, yet it garners a lot of negative attention from certain people; in fact, it's not really a mainstream idea at all. It seems like there is an entrenched, yet largely unspoken, reticence to such reform and the why is a total mystery to me. Really, why not?

They should just let us become the new education czars. We'd settle their hashes...

P.S. - Sorry if this is derailing but this is an interesting topic!

 

[Renae]

That's not something I would tolerate. I would first start by pointing out that you had never had such an issue and that her implying it was an insult. I would follow that up with wanting some documented support for her concerns and that failure to provide that would result in you going above her head.

Who originally interviewed you that you related your desire for a short commute? Maybe speak to them about it.

Barring that, flat out tell her that you will be seeking other employment and that this is a deal breaker.

She was there, so were 4 other officers. She is the Ops Lt. She makes the scheduale. I only posted this to vent my anger.

For the record, I told my Shift Commander I was seriously disappointed by this, and would be seeking new employment. I HAVE found an angle that might get the attention I need without sounding like a whiner. I'm putting in a leave card for January, and I'll be sure to add for reason "Job Fair". Those have to go all the way to the Acting Chief of Police. One cna only hope that get's at least SOMEONE to ask me why I am doing that.

To be honest, I just don't have the mental stamina to fight this fight. I don't CARE enough too. Which, trust me, is odd for me.

Oh Ethereal, I will NEVER kiss anyone's ass. If working hard, doing my job and going above and beyond (Like, agreeing to work loads of OT to cover for people out sick, or those that have quit) isn't enough, then I don't WANT you to like me.

 

[Renae]

right, but he DOES have to be prepared to walk. and it's a tough market right now. i remember some time ago i threatened to walk, and my expertise wasn't quite as critical as i believed at the time. ;-)

I made it clear I would be seeking new employment. The PD has a manning problem, so they can't afford to just "lose people" so I am not worried about being fired. And San Antonio has a pretty good job market. I'm just reticent to leave the UT System after putting in 3+ years with them.

 

[Renae]

It seems like this makes the most sense, and is not at all controversial, yet it garners a lot of negative attention from certain people; in fact, it's not really a mainstream idea at all. It seems like there is an entrenched, yet largely unspoken, reticence to such reform and the why is a total mystery to me. Really, why not?

They should just let us become the new education czars. We'd settle their hashes...

P.S. - Sorry if this is derailing but this is an interesting topic!

Derail away, I find it interesting as well. My big problem is my trade, is meteorology, however I haven't a degree, so it makes getting employed in that field much more difficult.

Anyone know of a company hiring oceanic bottom topography mappers? I did that work in the Navy on the Mine Warfare Command and Control ship USS Inchon (MCS-12) decomm. I'd LOVE to go back to sea again

 

[winston53660]

I made it clear I would be seeking new employment. The PD has a manning problem, so they can't afford to just "lose people" so I am not worried about being fired. And San Antonio has a pretty good job market. I'm just reticent to leave the UT System after putting in 3+ years with them.

I think you file a greivence.

 

[Arch Enemy]

If it makes you feel any better I've been working on the same project for like 15 hours straight, and feel like my head is about to explode.

:boom

 

[aps]

MrVicchio, please keep us posted.

 

[StandUpChuck]

I've often espoused in the education forum that kids should start having options opened to them that are in line with their aptitudes rather than everyone being pushed to try to become doctors and engineers.

I figure by the 8th grade you know if you have a future astrophysicist or if you have a refrigerator repairman on your hands.

In theory I see what you're saying, but in practice, it would be far too dangerous I'm afraid. I do not want the school system to make that kind of decision about my child's (any child's) future. What-so-ever. It's too easy for teachers and administrators to pigeon hole kids, and we all know there are kids who are the favorites and those who are the ones no teacher likes.

If you ask an 8th grader what they want to be, most of them have very unrealistic career plans. If you ask their parents, it's probably the same deal. Frankly, I didn't even know what I wanted until well into college.

I was just talking about a friend from high school the other day. The guidance counselor had suggested she look into beauty school to become a hair stylist. Fortunately, that fueled my friend's ambition to prove herself to have greater aspirations. She went on to get a master's degree. Had she followed the path suggested by the school, she would have gone no where (girl has no sense of style and would have stunk as a stylist).

MrV, if you want to continue with meteorology, get that degree. It would be easy to sail through the classes for you. There obviously would be a time and monetary commitment, but it will be so worth it. I think this supervisor just gave you an opportunity.

 

[jallman]

In theory I see what you're saying, but in practice, it would be far too dangerous I'm afraid. I do not want the school system to make that kind of decision about my child's (any child's) future. What-so-ever. It's too easy for teachers and administrators to pigeon hole kids, and we all know there are kids who are the favorites and those who are the ones no teacher likes.

If you ask an 8th grader what they want to be, most of them have very unrealistic career plans. If you ask their parents, it's probably the same deal. Frankly, I didn't even know what I wanted until well into college.

I was just talking about a friend from high school the other day. The guidance counselor had suggested she look into beauty school to become a hair stylist. Fortunately, that fueled my friend's ambition to prove herself to have greater aspirations. She went on to get a master's degree. Had she followed the path suggested by the school, she would have gone no where (girl has no sense of style and would have stunk as a stylist).

MrV, if you want to continue with meteorology, get that degree. It would be easy to sail through the classes for you. There obviously would be a time and monetary commitment, but it will be so worth it. I think this supervisor just gave you an opportunity.

I don't think that administrators should pigeon hole kids either. I think that a series of aptitude tests coupled with their performance would go a long way.

Face it...the straight C student from 3rd grade through 8th isn't going to be designing rockets for NASA. Instead of spending resources teaching them subjects they have no aptitude for, and probably make them far less interested in school to start with, such as physics and calculus, teach them something that will make them successful adults like the math it takes to make wise investments, a trade skill they find both enjoyable and in line with their talents, basic biology, home skills, basic computers skills, etc.

Of course, you would continue assessing their aptitude, skills and interests through the 10th grade or so. By that point, however, those last two years should be dedicated solely to their chosen profession, be that construction, mechanics, or going on to advanced study.