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So GOP. Is it time to flush the cocial conservatives and other wingnuts?

You said Dino was a moderate on many issues,so what issues was Dino a moderate on? What issues made you decide to vote for Dino despite his opposition to abortion, gun control, same sex marriage, amnesty, obamacare,tax increases and so on

I was pissed at Christine over the pot issue.
 

She encouraged the vote to not even come up for debate in the Washington house the first time. She sided with the big corporations who where against it but she was also a DA who put people in jail for petty drug crimes. She did say to me in 78 that pot was no worse than booze.
 
She encouraged the vote to not even come up for debate in the Washington house the first time. She sided with the big corporations who where against it but she was also a DA who put people in jail for petty drug crimes. She did say to me in 78 that pot was no worse than booze.

So out of frustration for the the incumbent Governor stance on marijuana who probably pretty much agreed with you on many far left issues you decided to vote for someone who is politically the polar opposite of you and whose stance on marijuana is much worse than that incumbent governor's? I can't help but think that would be like me voting for someone like Dianne Feinstein because the the incumbent in my state who share most of political views was hesitance on allowing concealed carry.
 
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A better question, I think, would to be ask if it's time for the Democratic party to flush the druggies, the sexual perverts, the criminals, the nanny-statists, the bigots, the baby killers, and the unproductive parasites.

Of course, the answer is obvious. If they did that, there'd be nothing left of the Democrats.

What if we outlawed holy underwear? If you did not have addicts voting both parties would be nothing. Are you really so stupid as to think sober people outnumber those who drink, drug or smoke. I hope not. Get off you zealot high horse. Morality is a matter of opinion and this country has never been moral. Not even Mormons. Stop being a self righteous wing nut.
 
So out of frustration for the the incumbent Governor stance on marijuana who probably pretty much agreed with you on many far left issues you decided to vote for someone who is politically the polar opposite of you and whose stance on marijuana is much worse than that incumbent governor's? I can't help but think that would be like me voting for someone like Dianne Feinstein because the the incumbent in my state who share most of political views was hesitance on allowing concealed carry.

I have been waiting my whole life for pot to be legal. The fight has ben won and if I had to sacrifice one self righteous biddy then so be it. Rossi was also against it but said the will of the people will decide. I like Fienstien.
 
I have been waiting my whole life for pot to be legal. The fight has ben won and if I had to sacrifice one self righteous biddy then so be it. Rossi was also against it but said the will of the people will decide.

But politically wise Rossi in office would have been bad for far left folks such as yourself. You would be trading more anti-abortion laws,less gun control laws,opposition to same sex marriage,opposition to amnesty, opposition to obamacare, opposition to tax increases and many other things you oppose in hope that he might legalize pot.


I like Fienstien.

Of course you do,you are far left like she is. I am not.If I was that dissatisfied with the candidate I do not vote for that candidate, but at the same time I am not going to cast a vote for a candidate that is completely the political polar opposite of me for the off chance that candidate might support an issue that I support.
 
It is time. Time for the GOP to stop being extreme and crazy so we can return to a two party system and not a one party and the crazy rednecks anymore. It is time to govern GOP. Something you have not done at the national level in years. Get with it.

There was a time when the religious right and social conservatives as you put was a huge plus for the Republicans. But I am talking about the 80's and perhaps into the 90's considering what happened in 1994. Then those of the religious right and social conservatives helped the GOP maintain control of congress until 2006 and Bush Jr. did get elected twice.

Then too in the congressional elections of 2012 the vote there was relative even, 59.6 million for Democrats, 58.2 million for Republican candidates. A difference of only 1.4 million votes. Much closer than the presidential election where President Obama won by 5 million votes. Now just think about this, there were 3.6 million people who voted for Obama and then voted Republican for their member of the House. Makes me want to say HMM. Perhaps the 2012 vote says more about Romney than the Republicans and their social conservatives, but who really knows.
 
Then too in the congressional elections of 2012 the vote there was relative even, 59.6 million for Democrats, 58.2 million for Republican candidates. A difference of only 1.4 million votes. Much closer than the presidential election where President Obama won by 5 million votes. Now just think about this, there were 3.6 million people who voted for Obama and then voted Republican for their member of the House. Makes me want to say HMM. Perhaps the 2012 vote says more about Romney than the Republicans and their social conservatives, but who really knows.

I would wager that those 5 million more who voted for Obammy just didn't bother to vote for the 3.6 million difference you speak of.
In fact, you can assume that was the problem in 2010 and could be the Dem's downfall in 2014.

Btw, I see the Prez's negatives are better in two polls on RCP today.
And, that Perdue may have screwed the pooch in your primary--what a douchebag .
 
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far left folks such as yourself.
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Of course you do,you are far left like she is.

What is the conservative obsession with labeling people "far left" as if it's an insult?
 
It is time. Time for the GOP to stop being extreme and crazy so we can return to a two party system and not a one party and the crazy rednecks anymore. It is time to govern GOP. Something you have not done at the national level in years. Get with it.

At least we know who to blame for the mess we're in, don't we?
 
I would wager that those 5 million more who voted for Obammy just didn't bother to vote for the 3.6 million difference you speak of.
In fact, you can assume that was the problem in 2010 and could be the Dem's downfall in 2014.

Btw, I see the Prez's negatives are better in two polls on RCP today.
And, that Perdue may have screwed the pooch in your primary--what a douchebag .

Yeah, I keep watching that. I keep watching to find out if the president can get to that magic 45% mark. But it seems every time he gets just above 43%, he falls back down again. Obama's approval rating is one of the indicators I base my senate predictions on. I haven't made up my mind yet which primary I will vote in. I think I owe Sam Nunn a vote for his daughter and she will have a primary opponent or two. I also was hopping David Perdue would be her opponent. I'll just decide later.
 
I see two parties for the long term.
I also see multiple wings in each party.
I see new realignments being forged, such as Rand Paul with his isolationism attracting DEM liberals, in spite of DEM talking heads.
At least we know who to blame for the mess we're in, don't we?
His remarks that surfaced today, from five years ago slamming Cheney and linking the war to Haliburton, renews the "Amash" coalition IMV.
I believe now more than ever that it is the best Elite/RINO, at this time Kasich, v. the best Libertarian/TEA, at this point Rand .
 
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I see two parties for the long term.
I also see multiple wings in each party.
I see new realignments being forged, such as Rand Paul with his isolationism attracting DEM liberals, in swwpite of DEM talking heads.

His remarks that surfaced today, from five years ago slamming Cheney and linking the war to Haliburton, renews the "Amash" coalition IMV.
I believe now more than ever that it is the best Elite/RINO, at this time Kasich, v. the best Libertarian/TEA, at this point Rand .

Isolationism will never be overwhelmingly popular as can be evidenced by the President's foreign policy polling results. Does that mean we need to get involved everywhere? No, but we do need to be decisive...
 
So, Democrats...is it time to flush the pastors and congregations of black churches that continue to take an open stand against homosexuality and gay marriage?

Come, kids...sack up. Your conditional outrage is pathetic.
 
But then you'll probably have a two-way run-off, because of state's rights and such.
How the hell can Deal still be up?
How does the Atlanta mayor's race fit in?
Yeah, I keep watching that. I keep watching to find out if the president can get to that magic 45% mark. But it seems every time he gets just above 43%, he falls back down again. Obama's approval rating is one of the indicators I base my senate predictions on. I haven't made up my mind yet which primary I will vote in. I think I owe Sam Nunn a vote for his daughter and she will have a primary opponent or two. I also was hopping David Perdue would be her opponent. I'll just decide later.
I see that Cochran hit back at McDaniel in Mississippi.
Looks like Hagan gets to manage the Hunter's bill this year--it went down in 2012 when Tester managed it .
 
What is the conservative obsession with labeling people "far left" as if it's an insult?

Not me.

I correctly recognize that—common misconception notwithstanding—the political opposite of “right” is not “left”; tbe opposite of “right” is “wrong”.
 
Being Decisive is very often in the eyes of the Politico.
Nice buzz word for an ad .
Isolationism will never be overwhelmingly popular as can be evidenced by the President's foreign policy polling results. Does that mean we need to get involved everywhere? No, but we do need to be decisive...
 
Your statements say the President has been an isolationist and I disagree.
You then say that this foreign policy has not been overwhelmingly popular;
I would counter that zero Presidents would have been more popular due to today's politics.
Isolationism will never be overwhelmingly popular as can be evidenced by the President's foreign policy polling results.
Does that mean we need to get involved everywhere? No, but we do need to be decisive...
Putin and Linc have lost count of the sum total of policy positions that the GOP takes on each event that occurs .
 
Your statements say the President has been an isolationist and I disagree.
You then say that this foreign policy has not been overwhelmingly popular;
I would counter that zero Presidents would have been more popular due to today's politics.

Putin and Linc have lost count of the sum total of policy positions that the GOP takes on each event that occurs .

The President lacked a comprehensive policy or response with regard to recent international events (e.g. hands off). This usually doesn't end well...
 
I'm surprised to read this from you.
How would you have put his "hands on".
Are you speaking of Syria as a recent event?
The President lacked a comprehensive policy or response with regard to recent international events (e.g. hands off).
This usually doesn't end well...
The best thing we can do right now is export more energy to Europe.
Since that would help Red-State DEMs, it won't happen.

The inability of Congress to function in a timely manner, 5 weeks for the Ukraine aid to say the least, has finally caught up
 
I'm surprised to read this from you.
How would you have put his "hands on".
Are you speaking of Syria as a recent event?

The best thing we can do right now is export more energy to Europe.
Since that would help Red-State DEMs, it won't happen.

The inability of Congress to function in a timely manner, 5 weeks for the Ukraine aid to say the least, has finally caught up

No Syria is not recent, but the situation in Crimea is. I'm not in favor of exporting any of our strategic natural resources. Europe needs to develop its own...
 
But you still won't say how you would put your "hands" on Crimea .
No Syria is not recent, but the situation in Crimea is. I'm not in favor of exporting any of our strategic natural resources. Europe needs to develop its own...
 
But you still won't say how you would put your "hands" on Crimea .

You didn't ask, but my first response would have been to reinstate a commitment to supply an anti-missile shield to those countries that were previously committed...
 
Not me.

I correctly recognize that—common misconception notwithstanding—the political opposite of “right” is not “left”; tbe opposite of “right” is “wrong”.

Yeah, we've seen your "wrong-wing" nonsense. How adorable. :roll:
 
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