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So angry about Gaza: I don't care that Harris and Dems lost anymore.

SonOfDaedalus

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I'm so angry and disgusted about what's happening in Gaza. How could Biden let this happen? Such disgusting moral cowardice.

I made so many excuses for the Democrats and the political tightrope they had to walk. But this is not a tightrope. What Israel is doing is pure evil and we should be opposing it. Biden could have stopped supplying arms to Israel.

I'm so angry and disgusted that I don't care that Dems lost. A pox on both their houses.
 
It's really not just a Democratic vs. Republican issue, is it. Since the formation of the Israeli state the United States has provided billions each year to fund the Israeli military. It survives in no small part the weaponry and training we provide it. So when it employs that military in morally questionable ways, we have an obligation (not as Democrats or Republicans, but as Americans) to determine whether we will continue to give them the means.
 
The cruelty is obscene as Isreal, with the support of western nations, has through their cruelty promoted the growth of the next generation of terrorists. If you were her brother tell me how you would hate.
 

Well, Biden was president and he must have seen these reports. He sat there and did nothing. I have zero respect for him or Harris now. These people were watching a genocide and continued supplying the perpetrators with weapons.

I'm angry at Democrats because I supported them. I don't expect anything from the felon president.
 
It's a question for Americans across the board - what exactly are we supporting over there, because when it comes to Israel we a deeply complicit in whatever outcome (good or bad).
 
Meanwhile there is a new President in the White House doing no better and already musing about annexing GAZA........
Donald Trump has shocked the world by suggesting that the US could "take over" and "own" Gaza, resettling its population in the process.

Why does Donald Trump want to take over Gaza and could he do it?

The president's vision for a Gaza under US control could upend the future of Middle East relations.
www.bbc.com

B............b............b............b..............b.............b.............b.............b....................b.......................b.................b..................b......................b......................but it's ALL Joe Biden's fault!!
 


Okay, so why isn't anything being done now?

Do you think these kids give a shit that some Americans are angry at a former president? They need to eat right now.
 

I'm too disgusted to continue with this lesser of two evils argument anymore. I never imagined the U.S. would support holocaust level atrocities.

It's not all Biden's fault but Biden is a coward and so are most Democrats. Trump's best friend is a pedophile. I have no expectations from him or the people who support him.
 

I am right there with you, SonofDaedalus. I am still going to vote blue no matter who, but I am right there with you.
 
Lesser of two evils is way better than what's happening now. The stance on Gaza is going to motivate my vote in the primaries, but I'm not going to sit out or just let someone walk in that will give Bibi a blank check. Using food as a weapon didn't start until Trump for a reason.

Biden was weak and let Bibi and Israel get away with too much but the situation was not nearly so bad with him in office. It was bad, but it wasn't this.
 
EnchantedMuggle said:
Okay, so why isn't anything being done now?
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Now, the party in power is even worse than Biden and the Democrats. I don't see how knowing that Trump and the Republicans are even worse than the moral coward Biden is reassuring.
 

Well, what I'd like to see now is Democrats stand up and say we have to stop all military aid to Israel. That's what Bernie Sanders is saying.
 
So ... who cares about the depredations of Trump/ICE on brown people here? Who cares if we end up with literal camps?

Biden didn't invade Israel so who cares what happens to you, your family/friends, and all of us here in America? Who cares about the famines going on in Sudan, South Sudan, Mali, Haiti, Yemen, Nigeria, Ethiopia, DRC (which has the largest hunger crisis in the world)? Do people think that's all just sort of happening accidentally with nobody to blame? Where are your threads? Why is it just Israel Israel Israel?

And who cares about Trump and Biden not going to war with China over its own ethnic cleansing? And who cares if the UN has regularly refused to work with either Israeli forces or America to deliver aid?

That's not a sane reaction.

Where is that picture from anyway? Multiple high-profile examples of starvation in Gaza turned out to either people kids suffering from severe illnesses like a kid who had cerebral palsy, something causing chronic diahhrea, etc.



It's absolutely true that Israel can be blamed for not focusing on aid distribution far earlier and has committed a number of war crimes given their seeming disregard of proportionality, but then, it is kinda hard to distribute aid when Hamas is at war with you and in entrenched positions. Hence, they're trying air drops.

No matter what you think - even if it's the irrational stance of "I will only believe anti-Israel things and listen to nothing else" - not giving a shit about burning everything down here is not a sane reaction.
 
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Callen said:
The cruelty is obscene as Isreal, with the support of western nations, has through their cruelty promoted the growth of the next generation of terrorists. If you were her brother tell me how you would hate.
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I could, but I genuinely don’t think the site’s rules allow it.

Let’s just go with “a lot.”
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
They just did in the Senate.. Not a single Republican voted for it..
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Which is why not voting, or voting for Moscow Rose Stein is the worst thing you can do for the people of Gaza.

Vote in the primaries, scare tf out of Democrats that if they don't have a very hard stance on Gaza, they're gone, and influence things that way.
 
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Gee, that’s a lot of desperate flailing in hope of distracting from Israel’s actions.

America isn’t aiding insurgents in Mali or Nigeria. The US is complicit in Israel’s actions. This is probably the easiest global atrocity the US could address....and it refuses to do so.

So we should treat Israel and China the exact same thing way? No more fancy military equipment and endless aid for Tel Aviv?

More frantic attempts to downplay Israel’s mass murder campaign.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
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You pointed out that zero Republicans voted for the bill. I'm agreeing with you and it's why I get really annoyed when people act like not voting for Democrats makes the issue...better...or helps people in Gaza?

Sorry, was a rant that was tied to your post but really goes off topic.
 

Sure, so you think Trump is going to save Gaza?
Lacy COP OUT thinking, by all means carry on.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Sure, so you think Trump is going to save Gaza?
Lacy COP OUT thinking, by all means carry on.
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Sounds like the Democrats should actually work up the courage to make a stand instead of just wailing “Trump” and expecting that to be enough.
 
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