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Smerconish lavishes praise on Elon Musk; Twitter Take-Over; his own audience clowns him again

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Corporate hack, Michael Smerconish, tried to paint an illusion for his audience that Elon Musk is brilliant, Tony Stark-esque moderate who'd usher in a new glorious age of Twitter. His own audience wasn't buying it.



And proof that Elon Musk is a right-wing lunatic is that he calls people who disagree with him pedophiles. He's disgusting.



Also, Elon Musk is a subpar coder and never invented a single thing worth a dime. He's just another con artist who cracked the code on exploiting capitalism through self-promotion. Just like Donald Trump and that Theranos girl.
 

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Corporate hack, Michael Smerconish, tried to paint an illusion for his audience that Elon Musk is brilliant, Tony Stark-esque moderate who'd usher in a new glorious age of Twitter. His own audience wasn't buying it.



And proof that Elon Musk is a right-wing lunatic is that he calls people who disagree with him pedophiles. He's disgusting.



Also, Elon Musk is a subpar coder and never invented a single thing worth a dime. He's just another con artist who cracked the code on exploiting capitalism through self-promotion. Just like Donald Trump and that Theranos girl.

There is one thing Musk is good at. Musk is good at getting a good team together to get what he wants done accomplished, from a technical point of view. That does not elminate him from being an over bearing egoistical hypocrite.
 

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I'm not a huge Musk fan, he is just a tad to whacky for me, however, he is one very smart businessman who knows how to get things done. I have no thought one way or the other on his takeover attempt. He will win or lose and he will thrive with Twitter or he will fail.....that's how it goes in the corporate world. One thing I do think though is for a guy like Musk he is buying yesterday in terms of social media and that's a bit surprising to me.
 

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There is one thing Musk is good at. Musk is good at getting a good team together to get what he wants done accomplished, from a technical point of view.

Is he though?


https://www.theguardian.com/technol...le-engineer-lawsuit-harassment-discrimination
“I’ve seen people pass out, hit the floor like a pancake and smash their face open,” said Jonathan Galescu, a production technician at Tesla. “They just send us to work around him while he’s still lying on the floor.”

He was one of several workers who said they had seen co-workers collapse or be taken away in ambulances. “We had an associate on my line, he just kept working, kept working, kept working, next thing you know – he just fell on the ground,” said Mikey Catura, a worker on the battery pack line.

Richard Ortiz, another production worker, spoke admiringly of the high-tech shop floor. “It’s like you died and went to auto-worker heaven.” But he added: “Everything feels like the future but us.”

Most of the products he's associated with actually suck, are PR stunts, or are blatant scams.

 

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Is he though?




Most of the products he's associated with actually suck, are PR stunts, or are blatant scams.

How is your net worth compared to his?
 

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How is that remotely relevant?
Because you are nothing compared to Musk, who I don’t like, and you need to stop your whining.
You have done nothing compared to him - your posts are lies and bullshit opinion
That’s why it’s relevant
Unbelievable
 

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I can’t stand Musk
Like him or not, he has accomplished more than most people, especially you
Alas, not all of us have parents who own emerald mines in South Africa, not all of us receive billions in government subsidies, and not all of us are sociopaths who treat workers like shit.

And no, just because we plebians are not as rich as him and don't come from such a privileged background doesn't shield him from criticism.

Sorry to break your bubble, but not everything you don't like is "whining and bs". But do suck him off further, he's happy to let mindless crypto bros like you run defense for him.
 

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Alas, not all of us have parents who own emerald mines in South Africa, not all of us receive billions in government subsidies, and not all of us are sociopaths who treat workers like shit.

And no, just because we plebians are not as rich as him and don't come from such a privileged background doesn't shield him from criticism.

Sorry to break your bubble, but not everything you don't like is "whining and bs". But do suck him off further, he's happy to let mindless crypto bros like you run defense for him.
What a stupid ****ing post
You are unable to read and understand English
 

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What a stupid ****ing post
You are unable to read and understand English
Oh right, I forgot your only defense is "he's richer than you so your opinion doesn't matter". Consider yourself blocked, although props for managing to take the most braindead positions possible.
 

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Because you are nothing compared to Musk, who I don’t like, and you need to stop your whining.
You have done nothing compared to him - your posts are lies and bullshit opinion
That’s why it’s relevant
Unbelievable

Elon Musk accumulated a lot of wealth by suckering people like you into believing he's Tony Stark. I already conceded that he cracked the code that allowed him to exploit capitalism, which is to a large extent a system that rewards con artists.

theranos-elizabeth-holmes-inc.jpg
 

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I can’t stand Musk
Like him or not, he has accomplished more than most people, especially you

What are his legit accomplishments? Aside from accumulating wealth. I'm not saying he doesn't have accomplishments, but I'm curious what you think they are.
 

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Trump is still on Truth Social. Musk could take it over for much, much less. Why not take over Truth Social?
 

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I can’t stand Musk
Like him or not, he has accomplished more than most people, especially you

Accomplishement is relative.

He's a modern pharaoh. Rich, because people before him were rich, and held up as a god by those who didn't win the geopolitical lottery, and cant simply snap their fingers into wealth. Understandable, but foolish.

The older I get, the more I conclude a stable family life is probably the biggest accomplishment any human can have. Musk falls very, very low on those rankings.

I guess every "great" man has a shitty family life, but Musk isnt solving quantum theory in his spare time.
 

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And proof that Elon Musk is a right-wing lunatic is that he calls people who disagree with him pedophiles. He's disgusting.
Musk is right-wing? List his political positions.
Also, Elon Musk is a subpar coder and never invented a single thing worth a dime. He's just another con artist who cracked the code on exploiting capitalism through self-promotion. Just like Donald Trump and that Theranos girl.
Yeah...he's just a maroon...that somehow lucked into building businesses that are advancing technology, which includes getting us into space again, which our bloated government with NASA was struggling to do. Hell, NASA wasn't even building our own rocket engines and had to buy them from Russia.
 

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Trump is still on Truth Social. Musk could take it over for much, much less. Why not take over Truth Social?
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
They literally can't stop thinking about him!
 

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Yeah...he's just a maroon...that somehow lucked into building businesses that are advancing technology, which includes getting us into space again, which our bloated government with NASA was struggling to do. Hell, NASA wasn't even building our own rocket engines and had to buy them from Russia.
He was literally ousted from Paypal by Peter Thiel's team (the guy who actually made Paypal a success) for being grossly toxic and incompetent, and only scored the windfall that made the rest of his fortune possible because of his existing stake in the company from daddy's blood emerald money. This has largely established the guy's MO going forward: throw tons of money at people far more technically capable and competent than you and hope they make you rich, then generally try and take all of the credit. Let's not forget this is the guy whose spaghetti code he spent days and nights working on had to be thrown out and replaced wholesale by the work of actually competent coders because it was unsalvageably bad... something he threw an absolute bitch fit over because he's a childish narcissist.

The dude undeniably excels at raising money and being a shameless hype man (he may even be one of history's all time greats in this regard), but that's about where his talents begin and end.
 
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Accomplishement is relative.

He's a modern pharaoh. Rich, because people before him were rich, and held up as a god by those who didn't win the geopolitical lottery, and cant simply snap their fingers into wealth. Understandable, but foolish.

The older I get, the more I conclude a stable family life is probably the biggest accomplishment any human can have. Musk falls very, very low on those rankings.

I guess every "great" man has a shitty family life, but Musk isnt solving quantum theory in his spare time.
Agreed on family
Most of what Musk has done is smoke and mirrors
The value of Tesla is based on what deluded people want to believe, not reality
I’ve never been a follower of weak minded sheep who are incapable of individual thoughts, and are slaves to groupthink
While Space X had some innovations that are impressive, the company grew solely on the government teat of financing, which is crap
Musk has always struck me as a bullshiter
 

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Is he though?




Most of the products he's associated with actually suck, are PR stunts, or are blatant scams.

Which, of course, different that getting a technical team together to get a product developed, and having the concept of the product to begin with. That's customer service.. and is a different issue.
 

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There is one thing Musk is good at. Musk is good at getting a good team together to get what he wants done accomplished, from a technical point of view. That does not elminate him from being an over bearing egoistical hypocrite.
You got the last part correct. I did not know much about the man, a friend was listening to a pod cast where Musk was a guest. I know more about him now, he seems very accomplished as well as a giant douche.
 

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😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
They literally can't stop thinking about him!
What are you talking about? Trump was mentioned in the OP...
 
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