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Should We Get Rid Of Monuments?

Tigerace117 said:
It was considered peculiar that southerners still clung to it long after everyone else had gotten rid of it.
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long after??? actually you mean at time same time in the west given that it had existed for 10,000 years and all of the West got rid of it in the 19th Century. Do you get it now?
 
James972 said:
Not really England just switched to indentured servants from India and Spain used slaves in Cuba till the 1880's. Sorry to rock your world.
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Why is it that such an exceptional nation must rationalize itself via comparisons to other "lesser" nations?
 
Fenton Lum said:
Why is it that such an exceptional nation must rationalize itself via comparisons to other "lesser" nations?
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we were not exceptional about slavery and neither was Jesus.
 
James972 said:
Not really England just switched to indentured servants from India and Spain used slaves in Cuba till the 1880's. Sorry to rock your world.
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Yes really buddy. If you studied history you'd know there's a kind of crucial difference between "indentured servant" and "slave".

Considering that Spain abolished slavery in 1811, that's a neat feat buddy.

The only thing you are rocking is your own ignorance.
 
James972 said:
long after??? actually you mean at time same time in the west given that it had existed for 10,000 years and all of the West got rid of it in the 19th Century. Do you get it now?
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The thing that with the exception of southerners and Brazilians everyone in the West had acknowledged as evil and abolished? Yeah I do get that.
 
Tigerace117 said:
The thing that with the exception of southerners and Brazilians everyone in the West had acknowledged as evil and abolished? Yeah I do get that.
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All agree after 10,000 years the West abolished it in the 19th century. And?????????????????????????????
 
James972 said:
All agree after 10,000 years the West abolished it in the 19th century. And?????????????????????????????
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The point remains that long after it was banned elsewhere the South clung to it. Nothing you have said changes that.
 
James972 said:
if I said Jim Crow laws gave blacks dignity I will pay you $10,000. Do you accept this bet as legally binding contract?
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You literally tried to deny African Americans were denied their constitutional rights. I proved it was so. You owe me ten thousand dollars. Pay up.
 
Tigerace117 said:
You literally tried to deny African Americans were denied their constitutional rights.
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if true why are you so afraid to present the quote wherein I did this?? what does your fear tell us?
 
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Yes and as I said during that time the loyalty was to the state for most."

Just something else I recalled...
From his Last Will and Testament:

George Washington said:

I, George Washington of Mount Vernon, a citizen of the United States and lately President of the same, do make, ordain and declare this instrument, which is written with my own hand and every page thereof subscribed with my name, to be my last Will and Testament, revoking all others.
 
James972 said:
and Jesus Christ himself accepted slavery!! So lets get rid of them all and start over like Hitler Stalin and Mao did. There is no need to conserve the best of history rather we should just start history all over again-right?
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When you say Jesus himself accepted {Slavery). Where specifically did you see in the bible that Jesus accepted {Slavery}. I am aware that slavery did exist during Jesus' time, but that doesn't mean he accepted it.

I assume your phrase is regarding Historic Statues. I agree we should keep them all but tell the real story via a plaque or engraving upon the statue. One could read,for instance: Robert E.Lee was a brilliant military commander who showed his loyalty and gratitude to the nation which endowed him with so many blessings(West Point education and commission) by taking up arms against that nation. He did so, presumably because he loved Virginia. No doubt he did love Virginia where he owned a very large estate and thus required many slaves to maintain and operate. As it was the stated mission of the North to abolish slavery, one might reasonably draw the conclusion that Lee had a very large investment to protect(His Slaves) when he made his decision to betray his country. All things being equal, Robert E' Lee's statue should be prominently displayed side by side with Benedict Arnold who also betrayed his country for fortune.
 
Tigerace117 said:
This own thread. Do you not read your own posts before you spew them?
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Post a quote, then. Or, adnit you aren't being honest and your dishonest accusations are the only thing you can bring to the table.
 
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