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SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) — Although Springfield public schools have banned the use of withholding students from recess as a form of punishment, officials say the age-old practice continues in some schools.
The district established the ban on 'no recess' as part of its wellness program a few years ago because recess keeps children active. Associate Superintendent Ben Hackenwerth, who oversees elementary schools where the 'no recess' practice has long been prevalent, stressed the need to end the punishment during a school official study session Tuesday.
She also said she will occasionally get a call from a parent asking that their child lose recess privileges for poor behavior at home.
So, you've got a hyperactive little boy not paying attention in class, and you make him stay-in for recess, rather than let him run some of his energy off?This is the first I've heard of this. Frankly I think its stupid. Kids NEED discipline and part of discipline is taking away privileges so that they learn that there are consequences for their actions. More and more disciplinary measures are being taken away by people that "think" they're an expert on rearing children. This keeps up and soon there won't be a damn thing you can do to teach your children right from wrong.
Schools try to implement ban on use of 'no recess'
I don't think I ever meet a kid where taking things away from them worked all that well.
It works, and moreso the older they get.I don't think I ever meet a kid where taking things away from them worked all that well.
So, you've got a hyperactive little boy not paying attention in class, and you make him stay-in for recess, rather than let him run some of his energy off?
Brilliant! :doh
It works, and moreso the older they get.
One of the best things I ever done was get my boy a project sports-car for us to race, when he turned 16. After that, anytime I had a behavioural concern with him I lightly alluded to the car being a privilege dependent upon his behaviour, and it worked! I heard feedback from his buddies to this effect!
Exactly, Kal!Worked wonders for my boy. He was starting to act up so bad that I took everything out of his room except his bed, pillow, and a blanket and his clothes. Even the stuffed animals that he goes to sleep with at night. Put it all in the back of my van while he was at school. He came home to having nothing. He asked where it all went and I told him I threw it all in the garbage. He was EXTREMELY upset. After about 3 days I gave it all back to him. He has RARELY gotten into trouble since. I did this 3 years ago.
My daughter on the other hand... that don't work. She's more a social butterfly than a material girl. So with her I end up punishing in ways that hurt her social life. She absolutely HATES being alone. So I can usually ground her to her room where she can't interact with anyone and she'll straighten up...for a while at least. Her biggest problem is that she doesn't think before she acts and that tends to get her into trouble. Still trying to figure something out that will last a bit more permanently. Best I can do at the moment is ground her to her room while trying to get her to think before acting.... what can I say, she's a work in progress.
And if you can get them interested in the finer aspects of lawn maintenance and snow removal, all the better! :lamoHyperactive boys are actually easy to deal with. The key to them is getting them interested and you can then use that hyperactivity to your advantage.
Meaning what, taking away recess is the only way to do this? No.This is the first I've heard of this. Frankly I think its stupid. Kids NEED discipline and part of discipline is taking away privileges so that they learn that there are consequences for their actions.
And your credentials in this field are...?More and more disciplinary measures are being taken away by people that "think" they're an expert on rearing children.
This keeps up and soon there won't be a damn thing you can do to teach your children right from wrong.
School discipline options do not cripple parents' options. They can still establish their own standards and methods of discipline. If the parents call the school and ask them to discipline the child, that's an abdication of their responsibility as parents. I see little reason for the school to take on that job.
Meaning what, taking away recess is the only way to do this? No.
I don't recall any of my schools denying recess, and there wasn't any more or less of a discipline problem than anywhere else. They could notify parents, do time outs in class, hand out detentions, take away school trips, suspend, even expel.
Taking away the little time kids have for physical activities and getting outside is not a good plan.
And your credentials in this field are...?
Or: The research into these options demonstrates what, exactly...?
Kids go to school to learn. Not play. If recess was all that important then why is there no recess in high school?
My credentials are being the father of two and essentially raising both of my nieces since their mother was **** at being a parent. That's more qualifications than most "child experts" that don't have children has.
I have never seen it work and against me it just flat out failed to the point where I all could do more or less was sit around and do nothing. I didn't mind sitting around and doing nothing, so that is what I did. I guess it pissed me off at first, but after a while I just didn't care and considered it stupid.
Depends on the kid. I was the kind of kid where making me stay in my room was like throwing the rabbit into the briar patch. But I think kids today are different. I know my kids HATE having their iPad or Xbox privileges taken away and doing so is an excellent form of punishment for them. I think kids get bored more easily nowadays.
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It won't matter either way. If it's a child with special needs who's acting out, removing recess or granting recess won't change anything. Token punishments don't teach children why they're being punished for the behavior, it just tells them to stop the behavior. But if they don't learn the why, then that's a complete failure of the school system and the child will never benefit from the experience.
If you want your child to grow up to be a mindless drone who obeys orders and fears punishment, but doesn't know why or know how to creatively think their way out of their own problems, then by all means, keep up the good work!
Sure, the approach with children you should take depends on the child and their personality. Still, I remember watching my mother try this early on with children she babysat and it failing pretty badly, and I know for a fact it didn't work for me. Hell, for me it got so bad I didn't even have a bed because my dad got pissed that all I would do was lay there. Well, my weights were taken, my games were taken, my car was taken, my books were taken, my surf board was taken, and god damn everything else, so I'm laying here in the bed because I have nothing to do but sleep. There is a reason I hate my dad and this is pretty much it.
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