Finally, by your own standards, since you cannot express yourself proficiently in written English and are therefore most likely not a citizen and have no right to vote in the first place, how about leaving this to actual Americans to discuss?
It's not even close to the same. Why don't you attempt to "honestly" relay how it is...in 2010, instead of presenting some predictable leftie obfuscation hoping to once again throw folks off the scent of your putrid agenda.
Well, your list of examples, treatises, and history certainly has convinced me! "It's not even close to the same." Such clarity! Such knowledge of the era! I bow to your expertise.
As much as I'd love all U.S. citizens to speak one language, that is an unreasonable expectation. Immigrants come from all over the world and their English can be very broken.
i don't think we can discriminate against legal voters. what about a brand new citizen, who has not yet mastered our language. wouldn't you want them to be informed when they vote?My state offers ballots in:
Additional Languages and Formats
Choose your language:
» Chinese
» Spanish
» Cambodian
» Korean
» Laotian
» Russian
» Vietnamese
How do you feel about this? If ballots are offered in these languages, does that discriminate against immigrants that speak different languages? Should ballots in the U.S. be offered in any language other than English?
reading one of three sentences does NOT guarantee an immigrant can understand a ballot.Uhhhhhhh......... FAIL!!!!!
http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Resource...ization Test/PDFs/Test_Scoring_Guidelines.pdf
What's the point of providing a ballot in a different language? It's not like we don't already know they are just going to vote for the D. I am personally for deporting anyone who has been here a couple years and can't speak basic english. After all, how much can you really contribute to any society if you can speak the language?
Are you not paying attention? We're discussing things like ballot questions, not the name of the politician, which doesn't get translated anyway. Sheesh.
Look.
If a person who wants to vote can't read and understand the ballot, has only a very basic understanding of english and thus probably hasn't understood all the debate heard in recent (as in before the election) days, and doesn't want to take the time to ask the poll staff a question or two, then...
I don't think they should be voting anyway.
As they probably don't understand the issues or take it seriously anyway.
Never claimed any such thing.There are Spanish language TV stations, Spanish Language newspapers, Spanish language magazines, and lots of Spanish content on the web. To suppose that some one who is better at reading Spanish than English is therefore uneducated solely for that reason is obviously false.
Never said there was.Further, there is no requirement for level of knowledge on issues to vote.
Never claimed any such thing.
I'm saying that if a person won't take the time to learn the native language of the country they have become a citizen of, even if only on a basic level, they will obviously have a more difficult time understanding debates (if said debates are in English) about upcoming elections.
Not to mention, they obviously (to me) don't take their citizenship seriously enough to learn the native language.
Never said there was.
I saying that if they haven't taken the time to learn the necessary skills to understand the voting system, and need it explained in a different language, they probably won't make as informed a decision as I would like.
This applies to people whose families have lived here for 10s or 100s of years, too.
And, if they can't make an informed decision, I don't think they should be voting anyway.
Why?There are a fair number of people born in this country, citizens by birth, who are more comfortable reading Spanish.
I have a few issues with that.And yet we explain the voting system to people who speak English if they need it.
You've just described about 70% of American citizens, people who were ****ing BORN here.Look.
If a person who wants to vote can't read and understand the ballot, has only a very basic understanding of english and thus probably hasn't understood all the debate heard in recent (as in before the election) days, and doesn't want to take the time to ask the poll staff a question or two, then...
I don't think they should be voting anyway.
As they probably don't understand the issues or take it seriously anyway.
Yes...And?You've just described about 70% of American citizens, people who were ****ing BORN here.
i don't think we can discriminate against legal voters. what about a brand new citizen, who has not yet mastered our language. wouldn't you want them to be informed when they vote?
Personally, I think that wait time is too long."Brand new" LEGAL citizens have ample time to assimilate. Our legal immigrants have to jump through a few years of bureaucratic hoops.
Personally, I think that wait time is too long.
Should be a year or perhaps two at most, depending on circumstances, history, etc.
Only for an hour or two.In most circumstances, I agree.
Determining the financial stability... or potential for it, a modicum of emotional stability, criminal history and a hint of sanity....as is required in almost every other country on the planet prior to opening the doors, takes time for a massive bureaucracy. Surely you've been to the DMV.
"Brand new" LEGAL citizens have ample time to assimilate. Our legal immigrants have to jump through a few years of bureaucratic hoops.
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