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Should immigrants have a path to citizenship?

Should law abiding immigrants be given citizenship?

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MAGAnificent said:
Trump has done no such thing.
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Not watched the news lately?

President Donald Trump says his administration is planning to reverse course on deportations of migrant farm and hospitality workers.
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www.usatoday.com

Trump reverses course on deportations of migrant farmers, hospitality workers

President Donald Trump says his administration is planning to reverse course on deportations of migrant farm and hospitality workers.
www.usatoday.com

According to an internal email obtained by The New York Times, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has been directed to halt worksite enforcement operations in specific sectors. The message, sent by senior ICE official Tatum King, was addressed to regional heads overseeing criminal investigations and Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), commonly responsible for “work site operations.”
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Allan said:
Not watched the news lately?



www.usatoday.com

Trump reverses course on deportations of migrant farmers, hospitality workers

President Donald Trump says his administration is planning to reverse course on deportations of migrant farm and hospitality workers.
www.usatoday.com



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Donald isn’t going to read the likes of @MAGAnificent into his decision making. He’s just a lowly foot soldier who doesn’t even own DJT or $TRUMP.
 
Allan said:
Not watched the news lately?



www.usatoday.com

Trump reverses course on deportations of migrant farmers, hospitality workers

President Donald Trump says his administration is planning to reverse course on deportations of migrant farm and hospitality workers.
www.usatoday.com



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Trumps plans are to deport illegal immigrants wherever they happen to work or hide.
 
Allan said:
Not watched the news lately?



www.usatoday.com

Trump reverses course on deportations of migrant farmers, hospitality workers

President Donald Trump says his administration is planning to reverse course on deportations of migrant farm and hospitality workers.
www.usatoday.com



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This:

halt worksite enforcement operations in specific sectors
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Is an example of authoritarianism, but many seem to think it’s good policy.
 
MAGAnificent said:
Trumps plans are to deport illegal immigrants wherever they happen to work or hide.
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Trump’s ‘concept of a plan’ to enforce federal immigration laws is subject to change. If the donor class wants policy changes then Trump will (must?) comply.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
No. Should undocumented (unlicensed) drivers be able to operate motor vehicles on public roadways?
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The inability to obtain a license to legally drive is the main reason so many people get entangled in uninsured motorist crashes, which cost taxpayers dozens of times more than in states that have provisional licensing, which allows undocumented people to buy INSURANCE. Provisional DL's for undocumented drivers saves taxpayers and insured motorists billions of dollars.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Trump’s ‘concept of a plan’ to enforce federal immigration laws is subject to change. If the donor class wants policy changes then Trump will (must?) comply.
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Sure. The priority now is those illegals who have vast criminal records such as rape, murder, and child molestation. However simple illegals will be deported as well.
 
Allan said:
Trump has recognized that undocumented immigrants are important for several industries and has backed off arresting and deporting them. I would argue that there are a lot more industries that need these workers to operate effectively.

Those immigrants who haven't committed crimes and are productively employed - should they be allowed to remain and given a path to citizenship?
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Legal immigrants do have a pathway to citizenship. My Mother-in-Law was a legal immigrant from Lithuania. My Father-in-Law was a first-generation American citizen, and his parents came from Germany. What the OP and others want is to destroy the sovereignty of this country and remove it borders and laws. It is that simple. I am in favor of legal immigration. I am in favor of increasing things like Green Cards to allow legal immigration and believe that this process could be improved to allow those who have had Green Cards for a length of time to go to the head of the line for citizenship. I am in favor of Congress reassessing the entire process. However, I am not in favor of attacks on ICE Agents. This is the real insurrection so many of you accused the right of doing on Jan. 6.
 
Str8shooter said:
Legal immigrants do have a pathway to citizenship. My Mother-in-Law was a legal immigrant from Lithuania. My Father-in-Law was a first-generation American citizen, and his parents came from Germany. What the OP and others want is to destroy the sovereignty of this country and remove it borders and laws. It is that simple. I am in favor of legal immigration. I am in favor of increasing things like Green Cards to allow legal immigration and believe that this process could be improved to allow those who have had Green Cards for a length of time to go to the head of the line for citizenship. I am in favor of Congress reassessing the entire process. However, I am not in favor of attacks on ICE Agents. This is the real insurrection so many of you accused the right of doing on Jan. 6.
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Thanks for your post which is completely detached from the thread topic. 👏
 
MAGAnificent said:
Sure. The priority now is those illegals who have vast criminal records such as rape, murder, and child molestation.
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Of the (20M?) illegal aliens currently in the US, how many of them do you imagine “have vast criminal records such as rape, murder, and child molestation”? Of course, that ‘concept of a plan’ requires illegal aliens to create ‘serious’ crime victims in order to ‘qualify’ to become eligible for deportation.

MAGAnificent said:
However simple illegals will be deported as well.
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You’ve been shown that’s to be based on their (current?) employment status.
 
Allan said:
Trump has recognized that undocumented immigrants are important for several industries and has backed off arresting and deporting them. I would argue that there are a lot more industries that need these workers to operate effectively.

Those immigrants who haven't committed crimes and are productively employed - should they be allowed to remain and given a path to citizenship?
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Yes of course, and historically being undocumented was a misdemeanor and it simply meant you were unauthorized, with the solution being you had to BECOME authorized.
Both my parents fled fascist Europe. Mother fled Mussolini and father fled Hitler. Neither country at the time offered a way to be documented when you snuck out so of course they both arrived with no documentation, an Italian little girl was "With Out Papers" (WOP) and a fifteen year old Jewish boy was of course, a refugee.

My mother's parents also had no documentation, such a thing being nonexistent in Italy at the time.
All of them filed the necessary papers and followed the necessary procedures to be admitted, both learned English and all filed for legal residency and eventually, citizenship.
My father was drafted almost immediately after and wound up right back in Germany as an American GI, a valuable native German speaker with a flair for radio communications engineering.
He was a Signal Corps soldier who took two Nazi bullets to the neck and jaw, recovered, received a Purple Heart and spent the rest of his life as a nuclear physicist for the DoD.

They had to GET authorized and so they did. No roughing up, no ICE raids, no rendition to black sites offshore, just a lot of paperwork and background checks.
My father's parents had to wait in Canada until 1949 before they were finally admitted to the USA, my paternal grandfather was a survivor of The Gestapo, who relieved him of his life savings, twenty-five million Marks in gold.

The situation as it is now is shameful, and unamerican.
 
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