2017-2020 Democrats hate Cops guts want them defunded and locked in jails.Anything and everything should be used to track them down.
This shit needs to stop now.
I don't see anything wrong with that.The FBI is using cell phone information to determine who might have been involved in the riot on the 6th. At least one legislator feels the is is violation of civil rights . The present use is only to determine who was using their phone on that date and where they were during the riot. If sufficient evidence can be found against a person, then and only then can the FBI or other lawe enforcement agencies get the actual calls or texts. So, should he FBI be able to use the cell phone information they have against those involved?
2017-2020 Democrats hate Cops guts want them defunded and locked in jails.
2021 Democrats love cops, want the law breakers funded but locked into prisons.
Democrats pass law to fund even criminal killers in prisons.
Democrats award convicts $1400 for being in prison.
Republican's try to carve out illegal's getting checks too.
Democrats refuse to support Republican's.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
That is precisely how the patriot Act works with one difference. Calls originating in known terrorist nations are screened for content.I don't see anything wrong with that.
What does the above Old Man Yells at Cloud bullshit have to do with domestic terrorist insurrections, other than the fact that you seem to get away with making shit up?
I never called for defunding cops, I called for duplicating the Camden NJ approach and for reeling in the undeserved and outsized political influence of police unions.
The rest is fact free evidence free bullshit, and seeing as how you are incapable of linking to anything, (because you refuse to) it's just more Old Man Yells at Cloud.
Yes. Absolutely.The FBI is using cell phone information to determine who might have been involved in the riot on the 6th. At least one legislator feels the is is violation of civil rights . The present use is only to determine who was using their phone on that date and where they were during the riot. If sufficient evidence can be found against a person, then and only then can the FBI or other lawe enforcement agencies get the actual calls or texts. So, should he FBI be able to use the cell phone information they have against those involved?
If there was a god, Robertinfremont would have some serious splainin’ to do.What does the above Old Man Yells at Cloud bullshit have to do with domestic terrorist insurrections, other than the fact that you seem to get away with making shit up?
It has never been about defunding law enforcement never never. That is right wing spin and a poor choice of words for saying let's reallocate the tax dollars to bring on some new staff people with expertise in talking down etc etc etc instead of shooting down.
And getting rid of trigger happy and perhaps racist law enforcement should be a priority.
I believe he is afraid of what they will find when they delve into his cell phone records. Remember the fist raise to those who eventually rioted.Leave it to republicans to protect criminals no matter that hard evidence may be on the table.
This dude has no ethics. The FBI is not going to advise Hawley on anything they know a moron when one is before them.
Of courseThe FBI is using cell phone information to determine who might have been involved in the riot on the 6th. At least one legislator feels the is is violation of civil rights . The present use is only to determine who was using their phone on that date and where they were during the riot. If sufficient evidence can be found against a person, then and only then can the FBI or other lawe enforcement agencies get the actual calls or texts. So, should he FBI be able to use the cell phone information they have against those involved?
Did some research on this and it appears that the FBI could be within their legal right to access cell phone tower records, for up to six days, without any warrant.The FBI is using cell phone information to determine who might have been involved in the riot on the 6th. At least one legislator feels the is is violation of civil rights . The present use is only to determine who was using their phone on that date and where they were during the riot. If sufficient evidence can be found against a person, then and only then can the FBI or other lawe enforcement agencies get the actual calls or texts. So, should he FBI be able to use the cell phone information they have against those involved?
They should put the exact same effort into finding them as they put into finding the people who rioted over the summer.The FBI is using cell phone information to determine who might have been involved in the riot on the 6th. At least one legislator feels the is is violation of civil rights . The present use is only to determine who was using their phone on that date and where they were during the riot. If sufficient evidence can be found against a person, then and only then can the FBI or other lawe enforcement agencies get the actual calls or texts. So, should he FBI be able to use the cell phone information they have against those involved?
But there is a point here.
The term "Defund the Police" was the one that grew legs.
As awful as Democrats are about messaging, the far Left is a thousand times worse and it's mostly due to their own arrogance because they assume everyone "gets it" and they don't care about selling a message to the rest of the country, only their bubble.
Defund the Police is maybe THE STUPIDEST SLOGAN EVER invented because in reality it DOESN'T mean "getting rid of police", but nothing changes the fact that it's horrible optics and a massive failure in messaging.
Democrats don't often hire well paid think tank consultants and sad to say, it is time they goddamn well started to.
We need to HAVE a Democratic version of Frank Luntz, only ours needs to be honest and ethical, but he/she needs to be a sharp minded wordsmith who can put together compelling messages and sound bites that connect to reality.
I think the republicans are worried that their own cell phones may be caught up in communications with the insurrectionists. Evidence of that is Josh Holley grilling the FBI director in the hearing, wanting to know about the means used to collect data. He was worried about Geo-Tracking. He knows more about the whole fiasco then he's letting on and doesn't want to get caught.I can smell the desperation through the interwebz, sad, just sad...
Did Obama spend weeks claiming the election was stolen, that tRump won by massive voter fraud? Did Obama stage a rally to rile up the lemmings up to take back the election and march to the Capital???
But once again a tRumper tries to change the topic- the FBI has and will continue to pursue law breakers using cell phone information. I know it hurts the rabid right to see the same techniques they applaud when used on others, but are shocked and question the legality when used against tRump insurrectionists.
Try addressing the topic of the thread. You want to push more rabid right lies start your own thread... ✌
Please read the fourth amendment. The FBI has a warrant which satisfies the due process requirement.The FBI is using cell phone information to determine who might have been involved in the riot on the 6th. At least one legislator feels the is is violation of civil rights . The present use is only to determine who was using their phone on that date and where they were during the riot. If sufficient evidence can be found against a person, then and only then can the FBI or other lawe enforcement agencies get the actual calls or texts. So, should he FBI be able to use the cell phone information they have against those involved?
I think the republicans are worried that their own cell phones may be caught up in communications with the insurrectionists. Evidence of that is Josh Holley grilling the FBI director in the hearing, wanting to know about the means used to collect data. He was worried about Geo-Tracking. He knows more about the whole fiasco then he's letting on and doesn't want to get caught.
For all I know you are not actually a Democrat but might be working for the Chinese.
Yes, particulary the cell phone data from the internal boosters within the capitol building itself. that goes directly to the government and is owned by the government already.The FBI is using cell phone information to determine who might have been involved in the riot on the 6th. At least one legislator feels the is is violation of civil rights . The present use is only to determine who was using their phone on that date and where they were during the riot. If sufficient evidence can be found against a person, then and only then can the FBI or other lawe enforcement agencies get the actual calls or texts. So, should he FBI be able to use the cell phone information they have against those involved?
Did some research on this and it appears that the FBI could be within their legal right to access cell phone tower records, for up to six days, without any warrant.
SCOTUS ruled in Carpenter v. United States that authorities must obtain a warrant for cellphone tower records for any period 7 days or more.
As with virtually all SCOTUS cases, the pdf is a long read, but a portion of Chief Justice Roberts’ comments, in writing for the majority directly relates to the current topic;
“[W]e need not decide whether there is a limited period for which the Government may obtain an individual’s historical CSLI free from Fourth Amendment scrutiny, and if so, how long that period might be. It is sufficient for our purposes today to hold that accessing seven days of CSLI constitutes a Fourth Amendment search.”
Summary: The Supreme Court Rules in Carpenter v. United States
On Friday, June 22, the Supreme Court issued its much-anticipated opinion in Carpenter v. United States, holding that a warrant is required for police to access cell site location information from a cell phone company—the detailed geolocation information generated by a cellphone’s communication...www.lawfareblog.comLoading…
www.supremecourt.gov
Yes, particulary the cell phone data from the internal boosters within the capitol building itself. that goes directly to the government and is owned by the government already.
I think the republicans are worried that their own cell phones may be caught up in communications with the insurrectionists. Evidence of that is Josh Holley grilling the FBI director in the hearing, wanting to know about the means used to collect data. He was worried about Geo-Tracking. He knows more about the whole fiasco then he's letting on and doesn't want to get caught.
A very good point that was a central feature in Carpenter v. United States.I may be incredibly wrong about this but from what I can gather, if you access a Federal Government asset, property or facility, you are agreeing to be bound by Federal Government regulations, particularly those that affect your right to USE OF same.
For instance, your 2A rights are pretty much sacrosanct, but upon entering a Federal Government facility you are agreeing to abide by federal prohibitions against carrying a weapon on their premises without prior authorization unless you are bona fide law enforcement.
The nationwide cellular telephone system is mostly comprised of publicly owned corporate infrastructure for use by private individuals, however if I am not mistaken, telecommunications infrastructure in official use by the Federal Government is owned BY the Federal Government and merely contracts WITH the public telecom infrastructure for colocation and connection purposes, and therefore my gut is telling me that accessing Federal Government owned telecom infrastructure is the same as entering a Federal Government facility.
If you've ever used a smart phone to access WiFi inside a Federal Government facility, such as the VA Hospital, you have to click AGREE to a page that specifically lays out the fact that your activities may be monitored and even recorded by the government before you're able to use the data connection.
Seems like Uncle Sam has every right to access records of activities by any person that has entered their premises and all such complaints about 4A and what not amount to lack of awareness of the way that Uncle Sam provides Federal Government services to members of the public.
But I could be wrong.