She Took the White House Photos. Trump Moved to Take the Profit.

[jpevans]

Guess I missed it. When did Biden announce the selling of a photo's in a book like Trump has done?

Of course you missed it, it never happened. Just projection. MAGA Merch Man is branching out. The Slug prob'ly had a ghost writer for the captions in his book of uncredited photos.

 

[jpevans]

It's an interesting story - sounds like it's an issue where there should have been an agreement in place. However, I question why either should be profiting off the photos that were paid for by the taxpayers.

If it's a matter of photos that are in the public domain (which would make sense) - it seems like either would have the right to package them up with their own commentary.

There are definitely bigger issues to focus on.

The staff photographer is paid to travel with the Slug & take photos, as I understand it, to be available to document the events as they happen. The Photog retains the rights to the results, unless there is an agreement to sell the work product, as in a private company.

 

[jpevans]

And Trump using those photos, paid for by US taxpayers, in his book which sells for $230 per copy.
Trump, ever the scammer and grifter.
Why does this scam not surprise anyone?

Why would it surprise anyone?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

I wonder if this shot made Trump's book. When he shared highly classified Intel with the Russians.

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The President is the Chief Executive. He decides what is classified, and he's not bound by executive branch designations. He has the Constitutional power as the Chief Executive. The executive branch works for him. The intelligence agencies work for him. So, if Biden decides he wants to share classfied information, he too would have that power.

 

[tres borrachos]

Do you think that photographer should be able to exploit the property of the taxpayers for her own profit? I don't. And I don't think Trump should be able to, either.

Now...as someone here mentioned, the photos are in the public domain. If that's true, then EVERYONE should be able to profit from those photos...both Trump and the photographer.

How many of the Trump books with photographs paid for by the taxpayers did you buy? One for each room?

 

[dcsports]

If a photographer wants to sell her photos in a book, more power her to her. People are free to go to the achieve website and look at them for free. The benefit of a photographer's book is that we see the pictures she selected, and why and comments she makes on them. Some people will find that interesting. Its a nice way to let an artist, who generally do not earn a lot of money, capitalize on their effort.

There was never a need for an agreement to be in place before because former presidents, who have the opportunity to earn fortunes on their own, recognized that this was a nice thing to do, and even supported it by writing introductions for the books. Until Trump came along. A man for whom every relationship is transactional.

The same can be said about a president's 'book'. That he can include his own comments and insights. I'm sure Trump isn't the first to do so.

It's just not clear who's being ripped off here, other than perhaps the taxpayer. Both are using photos that the taxpayers paid for and are apparently public domain, adding their comments, and selling them to people who want to pay hundreds for the book.

 

[dcsports]

The staff photographer is paid to travel with the Slug & take photos, as I understand it, to be available to document the events as they happen. The Photog retains the rights to the results, unless there is an agreement to sell the work product, as in a private company.

If the taxpayer is paying the photographer to take pictures, including travel expenses, how would she also own the photos?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

"WASHINGTON — As President Donald J. Trump’s tenure came to an end, the chief White House photographer, who had traveled the world with him and spent countless hours inside the White House snapping pictures, notified Mr. Trump’s aides that she intended to publish a book collecting some of her most memorable images. This was hardly a radical idea: Official photographers from every White House since President Ronald Reagan’s have published their own books. Barack Obama and George W. Bush were so supportive that they wrote forewords for them.

First, aides to Mr. Trump asked her for a cut of her book advance payment, in exchange for his writing a foreword and helping promote the book, according to former associates of Mr. Trump. Then Mr. Trump’s team asked Ms. Craighead to hold off on her book project to allow the former president to take Ms. Craighead’s photos and those of other White House staff photographers and publish his own book, which is now selling for as much as $230 a copy.

That the profits from Ms. Craighead’s labor are now going into Mr. Trump’s pocket has left several of Mr. Trump’s former aides upset — but not exactly surprised. “Shea’s a very talented photographer and this was really all of her hard work,” said Stephanie Grisham, who served as the White House press secretary for Mr. Trump and wrote her own book, referring to Ms. Craighead by her nickname. “I just keep thinking: What a shame that he is actually now profiting off of it. But then again, this is the guy who is hawking caps and all kinds of stuff right now to raise money for himself.”

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What a scumbag.

"In 2018, Craighead told Marie Claire magazine that she and Trump had “a lovely relationship … very professional, but also … quite humorous at times”, and added that Trump had “a genuine, strong, caring heart”."

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lol, yeah, just don't come between him and a buck.

Something is left out of this story.

By law, the White House images are in the public domain, making them fair game for people other than the photographer who took them. Past Presidents have also used photos in their post-Presidency books. There is zero wrong with it.

Nothing stops Craighead from publishing a book of photos, either, and given the popularity of Trump with 10s of millions of dedicated followers who buy all sorts of stuff, no doubt she can make money off of a book by "Trump's Official White House Photographer," and she is free to do so.
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All of us are free to do so. Make a book, folks. All up to you.

The $229 copy is a "signed" copy of the book. Otherwise Trump's official pictorial book "Our Journey Together" is $74.99.

This is a prime example of the media inventing a controversy for salacious purposes, as they did for five solid years, imagining and fabricating time after time.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

The same can be said about a president's 'book'. That he can include his own comments and insights. I'm sure Trump isn't the first to do so.

It's just not clear who's being ripped off here, other than perhaps the taxpayer. Both are using photos that the taxpayers paid for and are apparently public domain, adding their comments, and selling them to people who want to pay hundreds for the book.

Nobody is being ripped off here. The photos by the official white house photog are and always have been in the public domain, which means you and I and everyone else can do whatever we want with them, and so can the former President.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Why would it surprise anyone?

Past Presidents have used official white house photos in their own books. They are public domain.

Yawn.

 

[j brown's body]

Nobody is being ripped off here. The photos by the official white house photog are and always have been in the public domain, which means you and I and everyone else can do whatever we want with them, and so can the former President.

Trump just ****ed her over, but sure.

 

[j brown's body]

Something is left out of this story.

By law, the White House images are in the public domain, making them fair game for people other than the photographer who took them. Past Presidents have also used photos in their post-Presidency books. There is zero wrong with it.

Nothing stops Craighead from publishing a book of photos, either, and given the popularity of Trump with 10s of millions of dedicated followers who buy all sorts of stuff, no doubt she can make money off of a book by "Trump's Official White House Photographer," and she is free to do so.
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All of us are free to do so. Make a book, folks. All up to you.

The $229 copy is a "signed" copy of the book. Otherwise Trump's official pictorial book "Our Journey Together" is $74.99.

This is a prime example of the media inventing a controversy for salacious purposes, as they did for five solid years, imagining and fabricating time after time.

None of this was left out. But I see what you left out, lol.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

How many of the Trump books with photographs paid for by the taxpayers did you buy? One for each room?

Obama used some official white house photos in his book A Promised Land.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Trump just ****ed her over, but sure.

How so? By publishing a book of pictures which are legally in the public domain, and not doing anything to stop her from publishing her own book? Why can't she create her own book?

Do you think nobody will buy it?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Do you think that photographer should be able to exploit the property of the taxpayers for her own profit? I don't. And I don't think Trump should be able to, either.

Now...as someone here mentioned, the photos are in the public domain. If that's true, then EVERYONE should be able to profit from those photos...both Trump and the photographer.

Yes, and so should you and I. The photos are public domain. Nobody owns the copyright. Publish away!

Why shouldn't Trump be able to publish pictures of himself when nobody owns the copyright?

And, your second sentence is true. Nobody has stopped the photographer from doing anything.

 

[JasperL]

The President is the Chief Executive. He decides what is classified, and he's not bound by executive branch designations. He has the Constitutional power as the Chief Executive. The executive branch works for him. The intelligence agencies work for him. So, if Biden decides he wants to share classfied information, he too would have that power.

It's not about having the 'power'......... POTUS theoretically can declassify the list of covert agents in Europe. Would you defend that if it was Trump doing it? Magic Eight Ball says....YES!!

 

[JasperL]

Yes, and so should you and I. The photos are public domain. Nobody owns the copyright. Publish away!

Why shouldn't Trump be able to publish pictures of himself when nobody owns the copyright?

And, your second sentence is true. Nobody has stopped the photographer from doing anything.

No one alleges he doesn't have the legal right. It's about him being a cheap asshole who refused to help out the official photographer with a simple forward without a cut of the profits, then asked her to delay her book so he could publish his own, which he did, and didn't have the common courtesy to even credit the photographers in his own book. And this is by a man who claims to be a $billionaire, but who would stomp on the ability of this person to make her own little bit of money because he can.

 

[Mycroft]

One of the rather amazing thing about the internet is that you can find other articles on the same topic that are free. You should check it out.

It should be the OP who finds other articles.

 

[Sidd Finch]

Of course you missed it, it never happened. Just projection. MAGA Merch Man is branching out. The Slug prob'ly had a ghost writer for the captions in his book of uncredited photos.

I don't think you're joking.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

We are talking about a guy who had fake Time magazine covers manufactured with his image and posted them in his country clubs. He didn't give those photographers credit, either. LOL

 

[Stealers Wheel]

It should be the OP who finds other articles.

Nope. If you're incapable of verifying or refuting someone else's claim cited, that's on you.

BTW, I access the NYT free of charge through my online local public library account.

 

[uptower]

It should be the OP who finds other articles.

 

[jpevans]

I don't think you're joking.

You sir, are correct.

 

[dcsports]

No one alleges he doesn't have the legal right. It's about him being a cheap asshole who refused to help out the official photographer with a simple forward without a cut of the profits, then asked her to delay her book so he could publish his own, which he did, and didn't have the common courtesy to even credit the photographers in his own book. And this is by a man who claims to be a $billionaire, but who would stomp on the ability of this person to make her own little bit of money because he can.

Honestly, he probably helped her out tremendously with this publicity. She'll sell ten times as many copies now.

 

[reflechissez]

Maybe she could comb through her collection and post a book of nothing but embarrassing photos of tRump and his cohorts. That might sell pretty well. Nothing like some good "finger in the nose" photos to stir up sales.

I think that's a great idea.