All you have to do is watch the Super Bowl to see how often women are degraded or insulted in commercials.
Of course you don't want the degradation of women to be part of a debate where you want provide a double standard that hurts men. We can't have anything that might hurt your argument."Degrading" is subjective and not part of this debate...
Man, if that were true, I would have had a LOT more sex!!
That being said, yes, sexual harassment of men is a thing. Believe it or not, feminists have actually been some of the most vocal advocates of this particular issue. But let's be clear--women are at a far, far greater risk of being targeted for sexual harassment and violence..
Of course you don't want the degradation of women to be part of a debate where you want provide a double standard that hurts men. We can't have anything that might hurt your argument.
I disagree.
More than 40% of domestic violence victims are male, report reveals
More than 40% of domestic violence victims are male, report reveals | Society | The Guardian
Where the hell did that come from...?
Domestic violence has a correlation with, but is not the same thing as, sexual harassment. I was under the impression that this thread was about sexual harassment.
I don't believe that this needs to be an either-or-issue. Domestic violence, both by men and by women, is a serious and underrated problem in our society. And on that issue too, you would probably be surprised at what most feminists have to say about it.
It's funny in the reverse as well, and I've seen both in movies and TV.
Sounds more like satire than a double standard
I disagree.
More than 40% of domestic violence victims are male, report reveals
More than 40% of domestic violence victims are male, report reveals | Society | The Guardian
It is like domestic violence. Women commit something lie 40% of the domestic abuse but all we hear about is how abusive men are. I am pointing out a societal problem.
First of all it's difficult for me to imagine a man that is opposed to the sexual advances of a woman but if he is it's really more a power issue to me. I don't consider the advances of a man to be harassment (or threatening) unless he can physically overpower me (and I think he might try for some reason) or is in a position of authority (say a boss) and because of that I am unable (without high cost to myself) make him stop. So uninvited advances IMO do not constitute harassment.
1. Home delivery movies type of thing.
2. Nope. Irrelevant.
3. What could be dubious about what I described?
So - four pages of discussion in, has anyone found the commercial on YouTube so we can see for ourselves?
Kinda' hard to evaluate video based upon a narrative ...
So if a guy stuck his junk in your face you wouldn't feel harassed?
It's harassment either way, technically.
However, it's dishonest to ignore the historical and consistent precedence in different reactions to said situation between genders.
Women by and large do not enjoy men touching and groping them.
Men typically do not mind women touching them or groping them - unless the women is unattractive.
That's a reality in gender differences and it immortalized in cultures across the globe so that women will typically not think twice about putting her breast in man's face or her ass or cooch for ****s and giggles and rarely receive backlash because, by and large, that man will enjoy the experience.
I would go as far as saying that if there was ever any real push to stop women, especially beautiful women, from groping men most heterosexual men would fight against it.
Exactly what I was thinking, although I'd have to actually watch a clip of the commercial to form an opinion. It's just so... overblown and Saturday Night Live, lol!
It's harassment either way, technically.
However, it's dishonest to ignore the historical and consistent precedence in different reactions to said situation between genders.
Women by and large do not enjoy men touching and groping them.
Men typically do not mind women touching them or groping them - unless the women is unattractive.
That's a reality in gender differences and it immortalized in cultures across the globe so that women will typically not think twice about putting her breast in man's face or her ass or cooch for ****s and giggles and rarely receive backlash because, by and large, that man will enjoy the experience.
I would go as far as saying that if there was ever any real push to stop women, especially beautiful women, from groping men most heterosexual men would fight against it.
How is it less of a harassment? If you're harassed by another woman of a similar position, is it just not harassment because maybe you could take her in a bar fight? That doesn't make sense. Harassment has to do with the anti-social nature of the behavior, not with whether you could beat them in a duel.
It happens a lot more than I think people realize. I actually struggle to think of any men I know well who don't have an experience that upset them.
The outcome of those situations is variable. As I said in my previous post, men are reduced to their conquests and at risk of social stigma if they refuse. But I have seen men express -- both in my personal life and online -- feeling as though they're being used sexually quite often.
And given that the early reports on the Millennials shows that men are more likely to want a relationship than women, and that women are driving the hook-up market, we shouldn't actually be surprised by that.
It's hard for you to imagine because we're taught to believe that men simply don't have any feelings when it comes to touch and sex. And that is so very deeply untrue.
Exactly what I was thinking, although I'd have to actually watch a clip of the commercial to form an opinion. It's just so... overblown and Saturday Night Live, lol!
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