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Seven Charts Showing How Canada/Mexico Tariffs Would Harm the US Auto Industry (and American Car Buyers)

What on earth makes you think Americans will buy a car that costs $3,000 more instead of buying other comparable cars that don't cost $3,000 more?

I mean, are those cars affected by the tariff the ONLY cars available to US consumers? I don't think so.

The reality is this: People won't buy those cars. Canada and Mexico won't be able to sell those cars. Both countries lose money. American buyers will still buy cars...but they won't be buying those more expensive cars.

Tell me again...who, exactly, will be hurt by these tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

America will be harmed. Those cars you call Canadian and Mexican are American. Ford and GM. If those cars stop selling, which is the likely outcome of the Tariffs then Ford and GM suffer. Those companies have debt to service, and unlike the Congress can’t just create money.

Among the things affected by the Tariffs will be gasoline. European, Japanese, and Korean cars will sell better with higher gas prices. Ford and GM will likely have to file for bankruptcy before the summer is done.

There are a lot of American Companies with factories in Mexico. Caterpillar as one example. The price on those goes up and suddenly other makers look more attractive.

Now you may say these companies should be encouraged to bring the factories home. That may be but such a move is expensive and takes more than a couple days to get started. Getting funding while having reduced income will also be difficult. Odds are that many of those companies will simply cease to exist.

Now personally I’m finding all this very funny. I am watching the FA and soon we will see the FO part. In a few years the best built and best selling American car is likely to be a Toyota.
 
What on earth makes you think Americans will buy a car that costs $3,000 more instead of buying other comparable cars that don't cost $3,000 more?

I mean, are those cars affected by the tariff the ONLY cars available to US consumers? I don't think so.

The reality is this: People won't buy those cars. Canada and Mexico won't be able to sell those cars. Both countries lose money. American buyers will still buy cars...but they won't be buying those more expensive cars.

Tell me again...who, exactly, will be hurt by these tariffs on Canada and Mexico.
As you say here, Trumpism = Less choice and higher costs for Americans.
 
As you say here, Trumpism = Less choice and higher costs for Americans.
Only if the Canadians refuse to do what Trump wants regarding illegal aliens and fentanyl.
 
I was just pointing out the obvious, but no.

I support the notion of national identities and want Canada to remain Canada.
You were right, though. And, in ironies of all ironies, should Canada become the 51st state, the Republican Party would die a quick but painful death.
 
Only if the Canadians refuse to do what Trump wants regarding illegal aliens and fentanyl.

If the Trump Administration has problems with Canada, why not sit down and work out those problems through negotiations? Why jump to a Trade War right out of the blocks? Surely Canada deserved more respect than that, didn't it?
 
Wonder if Trump will build a wall across our northern border and demand that Canada pay for it?

You know, "Pay up or else". That Trump threat worked out so well on the southern border. /s
 
If the Trump Administration has problems with Canada, why not sit down and work out those problems through negotiations? Why jump to a Trade War right out of the blocks? Surely Canada deserved more respect than that, didn't it?
His big problem with Canada is that he wants our land and natural resources. The people, not so much.
 
His big problem with Canada is that he wants our land and natural resources. The people, not so much.

It sure seems that way to me as well.... if he actually wanted to solve problems - real or imagined - he would have sat down and tried to negotiate a deal. That he couldn't have been bothered to do that just makes it obvious what his intentions are.... it's the same attitude Hitler had with Eastern Europe - as you say, land and natural resources. The people, not so much.
 
If Trump ever thought things through he would never have become president. He is not growing his base. All he is doing is getting a lot of people very displeased with him. The people who like him are in a cult. They like being in the cult because it makes them feel like they are 'real Americans' that are part of 'making America. great.' They feel like they are part of something greater than themselves. They are not typically very knowledgeable about the issues, and are usually misinformed by right wing propaganda. They are swept up in a sort of fandom in an Elvis-like adoration of one person.

The people who oppose Trump are usually better informed than the cult. That's why they oppose him. They know things.
There is a direct correlation between education level and whether one voted for Trump. The more education you have the less likely you are to vote for him and vice versa.
 
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Which American cars do not use parts made in Canada and Mexico?
34 American vehicles are COMPLETELY made in Mexico. Not sure about Canada, but there are NO American vehicles completely made in the U.S. anymore. None.

Has anyone informed the orange shit stain that, or perhaps he doesn't care?
 
Has anyone informed the orange shit stain that, or perhaps he doesn't care?
These nuances used to be explained to Trump using drawings during his first term.

Unfortunately Stephen Miller ate all the crayons on Inauguration Day. 😔
 
There is a direct correlation between education level and whether one voted for Trump. The more education you have the less likely you are to vote for him and vice versa.

I get supporting someone you agree with... but, c'mon - there have to be limits. That's what I don't understand about these people - whatever he does - no matter how ludicrous, how blatantly over the line or even criminal - they're all for it. They even cheer it on. It's just utter slavish devotion. They don't even have their own identities anymore. You take any of them in here, and their posts are interchangeable. It's the same tripe, just under different names. Uneducated? Hell, they don't even pass the Turing test anymore.
 
I get supporting someone you agree with... but, c'mon - there have to be limits. That's what I don't understand about these people - whatever he does - no matter how ludicrous, how blatantly over the line or even criminal - they're all for it. They even cheer it on. It's just utter slavish devotion. They don't even have their own identities anymore. You take any of them in here, and their posts are interchangeable. It's the same tripe, just under different names. Uneducated? Hell, they don't even pass the Turing test anymore.
Seems like they've grown weary of the burdens of self-rule.
 
Sad, but true. Or their lot in life is so bad that they feel they've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by supporting a tyrant.
I figure it's a combination of boredom and being overwhelmed by complexity.

I mean, root cause. That's not what it is now.
 
But is it enough to deal with the idiot? Will the republicans in congress get a backbone or will they keep kissing his ass?

Highly doubtable. They're willing to suffer for Trump.
 
I figure it's a combination of boredom and being overwhelmed by complexity.

I mean, root cause. That's not what it is now.

Well... let's call it the way it is. Their Grandfathers had it pretty good. If you were a blue-collar white male in the 50's and 60's, you had it pretty good. The pie was all your's. But then you had Civil Rights and the Sexual Revolution and all the rest, and all of a sudden, other people wanted their fair share of the pie too. Then comes along Reagan and supply-side economics, and all of a sudden more and more wealth is going into fewer and fewer hands. So now, not only is the pie getting cut more ways, but it's getting smaller. Then comes along Clinton and globalization, and now other countries are competing for their fair share of the pie too. We can't blame them for that - they've been a hungry for a long while. We were hungry too, once upon a time.

But at the end of the whole process, blue collar white guy looks at his little piece of pie and compares it to the whole pie his Grandfather used to get and decides this all hasn't been a good deal for him. So how does he respond to that? Buckle down and do the hard work and try to out-compete everyone else? Or just say screw it and get behind a Trump and just take it back for themselves?
 
Only if the Canadians refuse to do what Trump wants regarding illegal aliens and fentanyl.
Less than 1% of Fentanyl that came into this country came from Canada. In fact, if anything, they more from us than we do from them. So why do we have tariffs on them?
 
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