"Separation of Church and State"

[blarg]

1) OMG, having faith is not embracing a lie
2) if Nazis had embraced the thou shalt not murder lie( as you call it) 60 million would not have been slaughtered. Do you understand now?

haivng faith may or may not be embracing a lie depending on if what you believe is true but you said it didn't matter if you actually believed but if you don't believe and just want people to follow your religion to impose your preferred brand of order then as i said

that means you want people to embrace a lie in order to get people to do what you would prefer

the nazis did embraced thou shall not murder in the same way the biblical god and those under moses embraced it its not murder if you declare the killing lawful and good

if the nazis had embraced the idea that its wrong to kill another being that can think and feel like they do and did not let their hate blind their judgment on that then millions would not have been slaughtered no matter what any one thinks a god calls for

what you need to avoid killing people isn't the idea that a god that you can speak for is against killing ( or not ) but reasons you think killing is bad

 

[James972]

History has proven that when a government stops supporting any religion, it eventually dies out.

??? BS of course. Western Civ. has not supported religion for 100's of years, and people obviously still need a religion or philosophy to give meaning to their lives. Do you understand?

 

[blarg]

better english please!!

what meaning could religion add we exist because and we exist because a god exists because and made us because seem about the same

and you seem about as likely to have an after life just because as you would have an afterlife because a god made one just because

 

[James972]

You can't force people to pray in school any more, and as government decouples itself from religion, people will, left to their own devices, eventually side with logic and reason instead of fantastical myths.

Hitler sided with logic and reason as do all of our school shooters and over dose victims so what good is that?

 

[blarg]

??? BS of course. Western Civ. has not supported religion for 100's of years, and people obviously still need a religion or philosophy to give meaning to their lives. Do you understand?

hows your religion add meaning to life?

what meaning could religion add we exist because and we exist because a god exists because and made us because seem about the same

and you seem about as likely to have an after life just because as you would have an afterlife because a god made one just because

 

[James972]

An estimated 8 Million women were burned as witches, because apparently, your god is too damn stupid to understand that there are no such thing as witches.

so what? how many billions got killed because scientist doctors were too damn stupid to cure disease? See how easily you are defeated?

 

[James972]

just want people to follow your religion to impose your preferred brand of order

yes people should follow the logic of Chistianity whose great commandments is "love thy neighbor as thyself" Does the silly liberal have a better brand and better way to encourage people to follow it??

 

[James972]

that means you want people to embrace a lie

faith cant be a lie 1+1=2

 

[James972]

what you need to avoid killing people isn't the idea that a god that you can speak for is against killing ( or not ) but reasons you think killing is bad

wrong of course. Hitler Stalin Mao and our school shooters has reasons to kill. God had a reason for them not to kill.

 

[blarg]

so what? how many billions got killed because scientist doctors were too damn stupid to cure disease? See how easily you are defeated?

so a real god would know there's no such thing as witches and would not be the root cause of death while doctors being unable to help with a disease did not create said disease

 

[blarg]

yes people should follow the logic of Chistianity whose great commandments is "love thy neighbor as thyself" Does the silly liberal have a better brand and better way to encourage people to follow it??

the logic behind caring for others is that it encourages them to care for you and improves quality of life not that a magical sky daddy wants you to except for when hes says not to

so i dont have the silly part but theirs your better brand and better way to encourage people to follow it

 

[James972]

So he says, totally ignoring the more than 1 Billion people who were tortured, murdered or had their property confiscated by christians for not converting to christianity.

so what??? You are talking about 1000's of years ago. We were Romans who slowly adopted Christianity at a time when people routinely slaughtered each other. Do you understand now??

 

[blarg]

yes people should follow the logic of Chistianity whose great commandments is "love thy neighbor as thyself" Does the silly liberal have a better brand and better way to encourage people to follow it??

and a correction for you


7 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”


so as you can see loving others is number 2 while loving the god who can be and will whatever people want it to comes in 1st that's a problem

 

[James972]

the logic behind caring for others is that it encourages them to care for you

it might in some cases but thats 1% the Christian incentive of eternal live in heaven with loved ones.

 

[James972]

so as you can see loving others is number 2

in some interpretations maybe but so what??

 

[James972]

not that a magical sky daddy wants you to except for when hes says not to

does the liberal think the victims of the last school shooters wished the shooter had a magical sky daddy???

 

[blarg]

it might in some cases but thats 1% the Christian incentive of eternal live in heaven with loved ones.

that's a problem then since they can kill if they want to and imagine there god desires it making it right and not murder

 

[marke]

what meaning could religion add we exist because and we exist because a god exists because and made us because seem about the same

and you seem about as likely to have an after life just because as you would have an afterlife because a god made one just because

The worst thing a government school can do to a kid is to convince him ignorance, incompetence, happenstance, and unscientific speculations involving unexplainable natural miracles of some stupid kind is behind the formation of earth and life on earth.

 

[James972]

but theirs your better brand and better way to encourage people to follow it

so the goofy atheist liberal is going to teach would be school shooters logic ?????

 

[blarg]

in some interpretations maybe but so what??

people can **** over others if they belve god wants them to

and you know most interpretations are going to leave those 3 verses in

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’

 

[blarg]

does the liberal think the victims of the last school shooters wished the shooter had a magical sky daddy???

what kind 1 that commanded the shooting to happen? 1 that would forgive the shooter?


i just wish they did not want to kill others a magical sky daddy that was real and wanted you not to kill others would not require faith

 

[James972]

The worst thing a government school can do to a kid is to convince him ignorance, incompetence, happenstance, and unscientific speculations involving unexplainable natural miracles of some stupid kind is behind the formation of earth and life on earth.

modern religious schools teach religion and science. 1+1=2

 

[James972]

what kind 1 that commanded the shooting to happen? 1 that would forgive the shooter?

english please. read what you are about to post

 

[blarg]

The worst thing a government school can do to a kid is to convince him ignorance, incompetence, happenstance, and unscientific speculations involving unexplainable natural miracles of some stupid kind is behind the formation of earth and life on earth.

yes teaching creationism would be pretty bad

 

[blarg]

so the goofy atheist liberal is going to teach would be school shooters logic ?????

sounds more effective then religion but feel free to go up to one and talk about jesus