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WASHINGTON – Senate Democrats passed a landmark health care bill in a climactic Christmas Eve vote that could define President Barack Obama's legacy and usher in near-universal medical coverage for the first time in the country's history.
The 60-39 vote on a cold winter morning capped months of arduous negotiations and 24 days of floor debate. It also followed a succession of failures by past congresses to get to this point. Vice President Joe Biden presided as 58 Democrats and two independents voted "yes." Republicans unanimously voted "no."
Senate OKs health care measure, reaching milestone - Yahoo! News
I hope everyone has their bills paid up, or off. I hope that everyone is secure in their jobs. I hope that demos realize that as this monstrosity takes effect, and people see no change for the upcoming 4 years, other than insurance, and Pharma companies allowed to continually raise their rates, that the demos understand as they lose a lion share of power in upcoming 2010, and 2012 elections that no matter the rhetoric they brought this on themselves.
And I hope that this, along with other plans that this administration has in mind to destroy this once great nation are reversible. For my children's sake.
Merry Christmas.
j-mac
I hope everyone has their bills paid up, or off. I hope that everyone is secure in their jobs. I hope that demos realize that as this monstrosity takes effect, and people see no change for the upcoming 4 years, other than insurance, and Pharma companies allowed to continually raise their rates, that the demos understand as they lose a lion share of power in upcoming 2010, and 2012 elections that no matter the rhetoric they brought this on themselves.
And I hope that this, along with other plans that this administration has in mind to destroy this once great nation are reversible. For my children's sake.
Merry Christmas.
j-mac
We shall see J-Mac, we shall see. I'm hoping you are wrong.
Have an EPIC CHRISTMAS!
The Republicans damaged us, we gave democrats a chance, and they finished us off.Bush and company already distroyed this once great nation. Your children can thank them. It only took 6 years of republican rule to bring it down.
Merry Christmas
PS I still will never understand why the GOP did nothing about heathcare when they had all the power. Now they whine.
I hope everyone has their bills paid up, or off. I hope that everyone is secure in their jobs. I hope that demos realize that as this monstrosity takes effect, and people see no change for the upcoming 4 years, other than insurance, and Pharma companies allowed to continually raise their rates, that the demos understand as they lose a lion share of power in upcoming 2010, and 2012 elections that no matter the rhetoric they brought this on themselves.
And I hope that this, along with other plans that this administration has in mind to destroy this once great nation are reversible. For my children's sake.
Merry Christmas.
j-mac
The Republicans damaged us, we gave democrats a chance, and they finished us off.
Yea, guess what? Im putting my money on any third party that actually has balls and stands up for something, because both parties arent deserving of power right now.
Nice dramatics.
Am certain you were just as upset with the Medicare Medication Bill a few years ago when politicians jumped in bed with pharmaceuticals. Once again it appeared initially these politicians were doing something good for their citizens. But as always like alley cats they were in the cheap motel rooms with the pharmaceuticals. It was then just coincidence that many of the congressmen who orchestrated that ripoff are now lobbyists for the pharmaceutical companies.
Now that this initially nobel plan has been perversed with kickbacks am certain many of these congressmen will have a nice little Christmas present from the pharmaceuticals and maybe even a surprize lobbyist job awaiting them.
Now, back to the usual Rep vs Dem farce.
The Republicans damaged us, we gave democrats a chance, and they finished us off.
Yea, guess what? Im putting my money on any third party that actually has balls and stands up for something, because both parties arent deserving of power right now.
I agree. The problem is we still have people that actually believe the Republicans are better than the Democrats. I would love to see a fiscally responsible third party that stayed out of social issues.
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let the whining begin
the republicans bet the house (and the senate) that they could defeat this bill and thereby undermine the administration of a strong, internationally respected president Who's that??? for whom they have no viable opposition in 2012
the bill passed. they whine
if the bill had included public option, they would have whined
if the bill had included medicare buy in they would have whined
if the bill would have included a trigger for the states they would have whined
if the bill had expanded coverage to include all Americans they would have whined
if the bill had been a single payer plan like those used by the other major industrialized nations they would have whined
the republicans offered no cooperation in trying to fashion a bill that would have been beneficial for Americans; the republicans were more interested in using this issue as a partisan political wedge. they lost. and now they will whine. and so will their adherents, as we will soon see in this thread
here is something to go with the whine. merry kwanzaa
PS I still will never understand why the GOP did nothing about heathcare when they had all the power. Now they whine.
This Healthcare Bill with make it so that Orphanages are burned down, it will make it so that all blood banks will be emptied for the Government to drink it all, this bill will make it so the government will kill your mother with an axe, in front of your own eyes, and then they will take your eyes out.
Happy Holidays
Now is the time to read the following the words of Thomas Jefferson.
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;
it's a VERY BAD bill
And lastly, any perversion done to this plan of the take over of 1/6th of the economy by Obama, is purely of the demos hand. Repubs were locked out. So own it man.
j-mac
Yep, we will lose to the demo's. Good goin' you hold a majority in the house, senate, and the Presidency, and still managed to not be able to pass anything on time, without bribes to your corrupt Senators.....And still may not get anything to Obama's desk before the SoU speech in January....That's right....Gloat, but over what exactly?
j-mac
Scott, you forgot that our villages will be burnt down, the red surge will invade us from above, below, within, etc., and that our livestock will be abused or violated.
not whining, most of us are quite secure personally
just observing, and holding folks accountable for their actions
nothing wrong with that, i hope
note not a word of defense of THIS bill in any of the posts above
it's a VERY BAD bill
it MANDATES individual's vie for themselves, some perverted view of universalism
if FINES those that don't, criminalizes them, threatens them with jail
it CUTS medicare and medicaid by HALF A T, all while EXPANDING the latter, the GHETTO of health care
and in doing so imposes a FIFTH OF A T of unbacked burden on already bankrupt states
the president says---hey, my bill is balanced, let CA pick up the tab
And this was different from the last administration, how?
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